Are these configs allowed or bannable?

(ChowYun) #101

[quote=“Ashog;11903”]haha this screenshot is so hax :slight_smile:
If I had a chance I’d ban you right away! better than wallhack :smiley: [/quote]

The utility of these kind of comments is great. If u gotta post crap, just restrain yourself from doing so.

We’ve been saying from the past 20 posts that the problems of these configs are:

  1. U can manage to tweak and remove certain textures / visual fxs.
  2. Such configs HELP the player focus more on the enemy because u’re less distracted from the ingame “world” and you’re able to spot them easily and that’s a Fact.
(syku) #102

I would LOVE for the devs to remove everything, i would just use other methods to get it to look like it anyway, and there’s no way the devs could know in any way :smiley: man that would solve a lot of stuff.
Also, notice how only the really bad shit players are complaining, the ones without any actual skill who needs to find ANYTHING that can explain why they are always losing with 0.005 kdr(probably cant get out of spawn)
Stay mad and removing config wont solve anything !

(twenty) #103

Don’t start more drama :s

(Szakalot) #104

you trolling now? def. looks like it cause the quality of your arguments drops with each character : )

(Kroad) #105

this. You can get your game to look the exact same by tweaking your gpu settings.

(twenty) #106

If people are defending it saying that its possible to make it look like this in other ways.
Then theres something there other than the FPS boost. :*

Also read that people compare this game with games that are 11+ years old, stop that.

(fubar) #107

this. You can get your game to look the exact same by tweaking your gpu settings.[/quote]

Which is how a lot of players have gotten busted and banned from leagues before. :wink: Client side screenshots are a thing.

(Szakalot) #108

this. You can get your game to look the exact same by tweaking your gpu settings.[/quote]

hopefully this would also include some unintended side-effects that wreck the game for them nubs :tongue:

(ToonBE) #109

It is not an advantage… Those cfgs do NOT show of a mine is friendly/foe so sucks, it does NOT show direction of airstrikes, etc…

It is just good to have stable fps. High quality textures @1080p with some details removed is by far superior. Not allowing this is giving an advantage to those with powerful set ups.

@Szakalot @Rex

(Fana) #110

[quote=“syku;11927”]I would LOVE for the devs to remove everything, i would just use other methods to get it to look like it anyway, and there’s no way the devs could know in any way :smiley: man that would solve a lot of stuff.
Also, notice how only the really bad shit players are complaining, the ones without any actual skill who needs to find ANYTHING that can explain why they are always losing with 0.005 kdr(probably cant get out of spawn)
Stay mad and removing config wont solve anything ![/quote]
I’m pretty sure I saw a comment from one of the SD devs during the alpha saying they were planning on locking everything down, so this is probably a lost cause. I’m happily playing with a high fps config until they lock it, but I’m not going to waste my time arguing for something that’s entirely unrealistic (the extreme configs we’ve seen screenshots from in this thread will never be legit for serious tournament play).

It’s more useful arguing for adding more variables to the ingame options menu (which is already pretty extensive compared to most games, but missing a few key elements such as framerate locking).

(Zenity) #111

You do have to wonder of course, if it’s just about the FPS, why does the config specifically keep character detail higher than everything else? >:)

There is a lot of good in this config, that should give ideas to the devs for how to create a true ultra low setting.

There is however also some questionable stuff, that goes beyond simple detail settings.

At this point I suggest that we all chill and let the devs analyse the situation in due time. This is not a game breaking issue for now, and hopefully the game will be more optimised by the time some options are being removed.

To those saying that they would be willing to use third party tools to circumvent something that has been specifically disallowed by the game: That’s the definition of a cheater. Well played.

If you are willing to potentially get banned for something that only provides a marginal benefit anyway (if at all), I would strongly question your judgement.

Personally I have tweaked the config a bit to look more like picmip 3 than picmip 8, and reduced my FPS lock to 100, which is still alright. This seems a bit more reasonable, but there are probably still some issues with foliage and such. One would have to compare it spot by spot to normal low details to find any potential issues.

(potty1) #112

My 2 cents:

Anything that you change which could give you a clear advantage over another player should be considered cheating. If you can see through areas where obstacles should be blocking that is a CLEAR advantage.

Lowering your graphics settings to give yourself a boost is NOT an advantage over the opponent. Having better hardware than those who require low quality config is NOT a banable offence.

Do it the way csgo do it. Remove all options like this to avoid discussions like this arising every so often.

(athleticInspiration) #113

@ Syku, attacking peoples skill levels is not a real argument. That is actually quite inflammatory and has nothing to do with the argument on hand. The biggest fact remains, if you have to alter files or programs outside the game itself that is altering the game beyond what the developers intended and therefore should not be allowed to happen. Give me one argument that is legitimate with today’s day in age for e-sports that would allow this. CS GO allows for optimization, sure, but they have limits way earlier than DB currently does.

(syku) #114

There is no argument to be had, lowering your graphics has NO unfair advantage.
The only thing they should lock down is the commands that disables smoke/leafs/bushes/explosions.

(Ashog) #115

Lowering your graphics beyond certain limit HAS an advantage. That is essentially the point of this thread, because it allows for much faster tracking/discovering of enemy characters on the background (textures, models, foliage, etc.) and borders very narrowly with cheating. This certain limit is very vague, depending on the person who looks, but in other words, devs must define this certain limit very precisely because they know their engine better and have testers. Then they should lock those cvars/parameters according to the limit that they have set, as they had said they would, anyways.

Editing game files / tweaking GPU drivers / using other external tools is not even discussed as it is cheating by default and should be banned. My 50 cents. Relax. Peace.

(DomMafia) #116

People talking about needing this much tweaking ability to get playable FPS sound like they could use a pc upgrade more than anything. The current advantage these crazy configs provide is too much. They remove a lot of “objects” that cant be removed with the menu. If you can’t run the game with every gfx setting low/off you have bigger problems.

it is specially laughable when most of the streamers I’ve seen using these configs have extremely good system specs detailed in their twitch page.

(Player2) #117

[quote=“dommafia;11991”]People talking about needing this much tweaking ability to get playable FPS sound like they could use a pc upgrade more than anything. The current advantage these crazy configs provide is too much. They remove a lot of “objects” that cant be removed with the menu. If you can’t run the game with every gfx setting low/off you have bigger problems.

it is specially laughable when most of the streamers I’ve seen using these configs have extremely good system specs detailed in their twitch page. [/quote]

This is not true. I have a 4790k at 4.0 GHz and two 970s. Even with Chicken’s config I cannot reach 144 fps to match my 144 Hz monitor. These inis are the only way to get playable fps while having OneFrameThreadLag set to false. And there’s no way in hell that SD should force players to have to make OneFrame true to get playable fps, because it increases input lag.

(twenty) #118

I have a i7 3770k (not clocked) and 1x 780gtx. Gets up to atleast 200fps on low settings’
1x 780GTX = 1x 970 pretty much…

(Player2) #119

[quote=“twenty;11995”]I have a i7 3770k (not clocked) and 1x 780gtx. Gets up to atleast 200fps on low settings’
1x 780GTX = 1x 970 pretty much…[/quote]

You obviously have oneframe set to true, increasing input lag.

(twenty) #120

[quote=“Player2;11996”][quote=“twenty;11995”]I have a i7 3770k (not clocked) and 1x 780gtx. Gets up to atleast 200fps on low settings’
1x 780GTX = 1x 970 pretty much…[/quote]

You obviously have oneframe set to true, increasing input lag.
[/quote]
Probably, haven’t touched my ini files :slight_smile: