Are these configs allowed or bannable?

[syku]

You guys realize that even if you remove the option to make this config, people can still do it by other means right? its not like this is the only way to get these graphics.
the ONLY thing that should be limited is MaxFluidNumVerts and MaxParticleVertexMemory because you can remove explosions and smoke with them.

[Szakalot]

[quote=“syku;11587”]You guys realize that even if you remove the option to make this config, people can still do it by other means right? its not like this is the only way to get these graphics.
the ONLY thing that should be limited is MaxFluidNumVerts and MaxParticleVertexMemory because you can remove explosions and smoke with them.[/quote]

like was said before; if someone would be found to ‘get around the ban’ they are basically cheating and deserve a ban.

I really don’t get this drama campaign for lego graphics.

Go play a game from a decade ago if that is how you want it to look like.

[bubblesKeyboard]

[quote=“bubblesKeyboard;11580”]In the mean time… where can i get that config?

http://forums.dirtybomb.nexon.net/discussion/1026/tweaking-dirty-bomb-config/p1[/quote]

The one that was posted on this forum has much lower graphics

[appreciativeBuster]

[quote=“Szakalot;11596”][quote=“syku;11587”]You guys realize that even if you remove the option to make this config, people can still do it by other means right? its not like this is the only way to get these graphics.
the ONLY thing that should be limited is MaxFluidNumVerts and MaxParticleVertexMemory because you can remove explosions and smoke with them.[/quote]

like was said before; if someone would be found to ‘get around the ban’ they are basically cheating and deserve a ban.

I really don’t get this drama campaign for lego graphics.

Go play a game from a decade ago if that is how you want it to look like.[/quote]

http://files.shroomery.org/smileys/awedance.gifI suck so hard in this game it must be their cheaterconfighttp://files.shroomery.org/smileys/awedance.gif

[Rimmorn]

[quote=“srswizard;11571”][quote=“Ashog;11565”]
Basically it means, “either play the game how it’s meant to be played and like the other people do (with small variations allowed using presets and certain cvars) or don’t play it at all and go upgrade your hardware”. You can’t spoil the game experience of other people just because you are unfortunate to have no money for a mediocre PC. [/quote]
So possibly thousands, or even tens of thousands of players should spend ridiculous money on hardware because a game is badly optimized, instead of using a free, instant and easy method.
Yeah, sure.[/quote]

Aside from the fact that amount of money you’d have to spend isn’t that high (you don’t need high-end) you seem to have a weird idea that everyone should be able to play every game which is simply not true. DB is doing rather well performance wise (admittedly it was better before the last patch) with no leaking, little to no crashes and fairly stable fps (not counting the extremes like 6+ airstrikes in small area). If your hardware can’t run it on low then you either wait for it to get better or upgrade your hardware. There is a reason system requirements exist.

[appreciativeBuster]

l2p

[syku]

[quote=“Szakalot;11596”][quote=“syku;11587”]You guys realize that even if you remove the option to make this config, people can still do it by other means right? its not like this is the only way to get these graphics.
the ONLY thing that should be limited is MaxFluidNumVerts and MaxParticleVertexMemory because you can remove explosions and smoke with them.[/quote]
NVM missread

[Humbug1]

Please restrict size of monitor too, it lets you see things easier if you have a big one.
oh and FOV should be restricted too, because you can see more with higher FOV.
also restrict gamma, because on higher value you see things easier. it hurts in the eyes but you see things easier so plz restrict.
/sarcasm
just ridiculous how people in this thread cry about a minor “advantage”…
you are forcing others to play the game your way, if the engine offers it why cut it out?
I really can’t understand you guys, sorry

[appreciativeBuster]

[quote=“Humbug;11621”]Please restrict size of monitor too, it lets you see things easier if you have a big one.
oh and FOV should be restricted too, because you can see more with higher FOV.
also restrict gamma, because on higher value you see things easier. it hurts in the eyes but you see things easier so plz restrict.
/sarcasm
just ridiculous how people in this thread cry about a minor “advantage”…
you are forcing others to play the game your way, if the engine offers it why cut it out?
I really can’t understand you guys, sorry[/quote]

From this point on you are banned from every game you play if you change settings.

[Szakalot]

@Humbug
Can you give me your email? I’ve got lots of horses and it seems like you are full of straw

‘minor’ advantage indeed

edit: would love to see how the redeye’s smoke is ‘concealing’ the enemy , lul

[twenty]

Hate to be that guy, but everyone whos complaining about having poor hardware.
Get a job.

[Humbug1]

[quote=“Szakalot;11624”]@Humbug
Can you give me your email? I’ve got lots of horses and it seems like you are full of straw

[/quote]

so when you run out of arguments, you start personal offense
funny guy really :D.
Oh and by the way, you see things better if you disable that blood, it’s in the options.

[srswizard]

[quote=“Rimmorn;11616”]
Aside from the fact that amount of money you’d have to spend isn’t that high (you don’t need high-end) you seem to have a weird idea that everyone should be able to play every game which is simply not true. DB is doing rather well performance wise (admittedly it was better before the last patch) with no leaking, little to no crashes and fairly stable fps (not counting the extremes like 6+ airstrikes in small area). If your hardware can’t run it on low then you either wait for it to get better or upgrade your hardware. There is a reason system requirements exist.[/quote]

It’s in the devs interest too, to have as large as possible playerbase.
And yes, right now you absolutely need high-end to be able to run the game at a steady 144FPS @1080p, even on lowest settings.
Actually I’m not sure if even the high-end cards are capable of it right now

Here are the recommended requirements that my PC far surpasses, but the performance is still awful.

RECOMMENDED:
OS: Windows 7
Processor: 2.0 GHz Quad Core or better
Memory: 3 GB RAM
Graphics: 512MB - GeForce 7800GTX or better
DirectX: Version 9.0
Network: Broadband Internet connection
Hard Drive: 5 GB available space
Sound Card: Generic Sound Card

Sure the performance may get better at a later date, with optimization and driver updates, but I’ll be using the potato config until that happens.

[Szakalot]

[quote=“Humbug;11628”][quote=“Szakalot;11624”]@Humbug
Can you give me your email? I’ve got lots of horses and it seems like you are full of straw

[/quote]

so when you run out of arguments, you start personal offense
funny guy really :D.
Oh and by the way, you see things better if you disable that blood, it’s in the options.[/quote]

pointing out ridiculous strawmans isn’t a personal offense, unless you want to take it as one.

You could very well be a well-rounded no-nonsense individual, but if you claim that removing graphical detail at this degree provides only a ‘minor’ advantage, you don’t know what you are talking about : )

its not my cfg, just a random pic from the netz.

for your viewing pleasure: which is easier to find?

http://s18.postimg.org/5m9vkfe08/Wheres_Wally_At_Wembley_6_Copy.jpg

[Humbug1]

[quote=“Szakalot;11631”][quote=“Humbug;11628”][quote=“Szakalot;11624”]@Humbug
Can you give me your email? I’ve got lots of horses and it seems like you are full of straw

[/quote]

so when you run out of arguments, you start personal offense
funny guy really :D.
Oh and by the way, you see things better if you disable that blood, it’s in the options.[/quote]

pointing out ridiculous strawmans isn’t a personal offense, unless you want to take it as one.

You could very well be a well-rounded no-nonsense individual, but if you claim that removing graphical detail at this degree provides only a ‘minor’ advantage, you don’t know what you are talking about : )

its not my cfg, just a random pic from the netz.[/quote]

actually i would LOVE to play at higher graphics, but I feel like I’m at a real disadvantage with low FPS.
I played LOTS of shooters and as soon as i know the spots where the “map looks like people”, i see everything instantly. No matter what graphics/config
It’s usually only the bad players who complain about such things

[srswizard]

Cmon @Szakalot you talk about strawmen, and then you post garbage like that, get real.

The real benefit of these configs lie in the FPS boost, if anything.
The visuals are secondary, and personally; I’d rather run the game at medium/high, if it was possible for me to do so, and maintain 144FPS, but it’s not.

[Szakalot]

[quote=“srswizard;11636”]Cmon @Szakalot you talk about strawmen, and then you post garbage like that, get real.

The real benefit of these configs lie in the FPS boost, if anything.
The visuals are secondary, and personally; I’d rather run the game at medium/high, if it was possible for me to do so, and maintain 144FPS, but it’s not.[/quote]

I support this mentality (FPS above all else).

My strawman was just a demonstration of

highly-informational graphics vs. extremely low informational graphic. I’m sure it will help some people understand that the less visually packed an image, the faster it can be processed.

So don’t get surprised when such cfgs will be blocked, there will still be a middle ground of lower-than-anybody-else for HIGH fps cfg. that do not provide such an insane advantage.

@Humbug Even if you know the spots on the map, you make it easier for you brain. It really is that simple.

[Rimmorn]

[quote=“srswizard;11630”][quote=“Rimmorn;11616”]
Aside from the fact that amount of money you’d have to spend isn’t that high (you don’t need high-end) you seem to have a weird idea that everyone should be able to play every game which is simply not true. DB is doing rather well performance wise (admittedly it was better before the last patch) with no leaking, little to no crashes and fairly stable fps (not counting the extremes like 6+ airstrikes in small area). If your hardware can’t run it on low then you either wait for it to get better or upgrade your hardware. There is a reason system requirements exist.[/quote]

It’s in the devs interest too, to have as large as possible playerbase.
And yes, right now you absolutely need high-end to be able to run the game at a steady 144FPS @1080p, even on lowest settings.
Actually I’m not sure if even the high-end cards are capable of it right now
[…] [/quote]

Well if we’re talking 144fps then yea, stable framerate on that level is somewhere waaaay out there after multiple performance passes, I imagine it’s not even on devs radar atm with stable 60 being the target.

Edit: While 144Hz playerbase is growing it’s still small compared to 60Hz and while improvements on the way to 144 would also allow more people to have stable 60, that would require more in-depth changes. That’s something that most likely will be done after release.

[appreciativeBuster]

Guys are basically saying

Yo I got ferrari but wtf these guys who use custom engine and carparts fking pwns me

Meltharder, sure there will be competitive cvar restrictions, you’ll still be able to tweak it. Szakalot CFG is a bit too much tweaked and would be restricted. No doubt but something in the middle definetly goes

[B_Montiel]

Are you actually delusional? Everyone in the tribes ascend competitive scene used a heavily modified ini. Lol, I played tribes comp for over 2 years, and yes you could spot fine with the normal settings, but sometimes it made it much easier to see things with a modified config.

I more than agree with you on tribes. The thing is, having played on both settings until I had a fair rig to play tribes on, I really did not notice that playing in the middle of cubes gave anyone a true edge. In this game, it will. Honestly, I’m not a CS fan but I totally agreed when I saw most of the competitive scene forbidding dx7 graphics on counter-strike source. It was the same in TF2. For a good reason. Fairness. I almost believe this is like playing with a Wallhack in some situations. In CSS, some shots were impossible to do with dx8 and dx9 and were with dx7 settings. I’d not be surprised if this is the same here.

I also agree when people claim that graphic optimisation is an issue here. When UE3 was first released, I was able to run it decently with an A64 3200+ single core. They really need to get this game a regular 100 + framerate with an average config on classic settings. But instead of going troll with quake2-like graphics, I’d prefer that people give hints to devs on what is resourceful in the game and what is not to create a minimal settings that would work on any rigs. Believe it or not, gamedesign is an important part of the experience here due to the speed the game goes. If you simply deny it with ludicrous graphics, you make the game unfair to people who are not willing to play in such conditions, and you also deny devs work. Go back to W:ET then… The game was far more better than this if you’re ok to play on gross textures.

If the game devs don’t lock these, I really hope that comp scenes will. Simple tool, an intrusive anti-cheat that will take a screenshot every games.