why is everyone so obsessed with pc on this site… anyways, mw2 is a console game. ever notice that? well, for that matter cod all together is a console game. so iw is gonna cater to the console community for they recieve more sales from them than pc. xbox is the premier online community and thats just the facts of life lol. i am a proud xbox owner. dont get me wrong, i play pc games that i download, such as games like crossfire or combat arms etc… but i dont bitch how they not as good as cod for xbox because i know that they were not made to be the number 1 downloaded game of all time. on the other hand, mw2 was made just for that and was quite a success on consoles. if pc people didnt like the changes they wouldnt have been dumbasses and bought the game. anyways i am glad brink will have a cod style multiplayer system. brink looks very promising, especially the smart system. i know bethesda would not publish a shitty game example fallout 3 and oblivion (they were made by bethesda but why would they publish anything less than their standards). i cant wait for brink!!!
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After I played CoD:MW2 some hopes I have...
We’re obsessed as you say because we are PC gamers and modders/mappers. I highly doubt any ToyBox game comes close to World of Warcrap. As only a small percentage of ToyBox or PoS3 gamers play online I suggest you check your numbers
Dayuhm we’ve got some console warriors here.
Good thing I’ve got my +6 robes of nerd rage and specced in anti-fanboyism with wank mastery.
Seriously no need to justify your purchases people.
We all have our own preferences and opinion lets not bash the ones of others.
Just responding to young Ben’s question and statement
why is everyone so obsessed with pc on this site… xbox is the premier online community and thats just the facts of life lol.
Loved my consoles (Intellevision, Atari 2600) but then I got a C64 and loved the fact I could do so much more than just play games.
lol young ben, say the 2 parts of my name really fast and you will get it… just in case you dont you should hear bend over
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Shouldn’t your children be talking to you about euthanasia about now?
I joke I joke.
I must say you’re the first gamer I’ve ever seen past the age of 30, if your claim is true that’s a comendable feat 
I can’t wait to the days where I sit at home in my large leather chair and play video games all day, with the food being prepared for me and a hefty supply of morphine delivered each day 
lol nail is a little bitch that just got dis’ed hardcore!!! seXBOX rocks!!!
Ugh…
You’re even worse.
You’re really not helping your case.
Can we please leave the fanboyism at the door, we’re here for a game that will be awesome on every system.
My children are in their 20’s and both work and attend university, myself, I’ve worked since my teens including over 15 years in the military. I own my house, business and vehicles. I owe nothing. At 59 (this Friday) I’m quite satisfied with my life. If you ever get the chance to say the same, come back and diss me all you want.
I called you young Ben because it was very obvious.

My inention wan’t to “diss” you…well a little bit with the euthanasia part but I think that’s apparent and it was meant in good humor. Regardless I apologize if I offended you, that was not my intent. And 15 years in the military, that’s a very short service if you don’t mind me saying. My fathers pushing 25 now, and I plan to follow in his foot steps in a couple years. Though I’m thinking more JTF then Dragoons 
i plan to be apart of the great us navy/airforce!!! i havnt decided. you have a respectable life nail, too bad you got to be a bitch like that
me a bitch, sorry got too many dangly bits for that
there can be great honour in serving your country, but only if tempered by equal wisdom
Keep it clean, Mr (lol), repeated name-calling won’t get you anywhere but Banville. 
[QUOTE=tokamak;203218]COD is even catering to the rungunners by handing out hip shooter perks.
But fine, we already agree that it IS more tactical dan 0% spread sprint games. I think it just fits objective driven games with defenders and attackers way more.[/QUOTE]
More tactical, less dependent on aiming and reaction. You might categorize W:ET as a run & gun - game, but you need way more aiming then in CoD, since everybody is moving fast and you need three headshots for a fast frag. In CoD you just need to click the left mouse button and the opponent is dead, the little recoil or the weapon spray (which doesn’t exist with the sights down = perfect camping game) do not really make it as challenging as the shooting in W:ET.
What kind of gameplay you prefer, slower and more tactical or faster and more dependent on dexterity and reaction, is up to you, neither is better then the other. But the one style is pretty dominant now, while the other is still preferred by a lot of experienced players, which is why older games such as RtCW, W:ET, Quake Live, Quake 3 and even Quake 1, UT99, UT2004, Urban Terror etc. are still played online. The devs have to decide who they want to cater to, and if there still is a market for the faster shooters, or if they even want to attempt to recreate it, but imo the market is saturated with slower shooters.
And that kind of gameplay does not work well with objectives in my opinion and experience, since it leads to most players camping with their sights down, while gamemodes with objectives require a lot of movement. Thats why almost nobody plays Headquarters or Sabotage in CoD 4, over 80% play Team Deathmatch with friendly fire off, apparently it is already too challenging to distinguish between friend and foe.
Sure you’ve got to aim more if people go around like bunnies on acid. The ironsight however hands the advantage over to the players who are best at judging the situations. And that’s where all the twitch kiddies fall flat on their face. This is EXACTLY what objective based gameplay needs.
Sigh, you even have to aim more when the players in W:ET or RTCW stand perfectly still, then at moving players in CoD…
But I bet you never played any of those games, otherwise you would not spill such crap. No judging situations in twich shooters? Ever heard how Quake players have to time the items?
I played CoD 4 and WaW both 30 hours each online, and had insane kill ratios (granted, there are probably way more n00bs in these games than in W:ET), so no falling on my face. The iron sights hand the advantage over to the players who camp, nothing more. It might be super tactical between two clans, but on pubs it is just a slower and dumbed down deathmatch, nobody cares about the bomb in sabotage or the hq in headquarters.
Why do you think it would work in a more complicated shooter that demands certain classes for objectives, which in themselves already demand a judging of the situation?