I don’t know of any other game, in which the winner is NOT decided on points, where the point scoring system is a “key concept”. It’s quite correct to dismiss any suggestion that it is.
Machine, in the nicest possible way, if you seriously wouldn’t play ET were the XP system removed then please, don’t visit either of the servers in my sig.
look, heres the simple and quick solution to everyones problem with this game.
its a game thats made for masses and masses of people right?
now in order to make a game well liked, they ahve toi build it like a democracy, on what they think the majority of the people will like, they obviously thought the xp system was a good idea, and i agree, in fact ots one of my favorite points of the game. but when people come on here to post about the little insignifigances and what they are so bothered by about the game seems kinda retarded. i mean when i read posts about how poeple think medics are cheap and how artillary strikes shouldnt be in et, thats just ridiculous. they wanted to make a game based on wwII and they did, a damn fine one. but if you sit there and say i dont think they should put artillery strikes and snipers and whatever else you dont like about the game, but was obviously in wwII, that gives me a good chuckle. and then im disgruntled :disgust:
but when people come to message boards and just post about things they dont like about the game really kinda pisses me off. and its happening more and more, im not saying i havnt made a few posts about crap i dont like or aspects of the game that arnt my favorite, but when all people do is post stuff like that, it kinda seems stupid that there even playing the game, cause if i dislike that much stuff about a game. i dont think id play it so much then go bitch about it on a message board! some of you guys should seriously just shut up and play the game. its a game, its not going to be created around what you want! or any specific person. its made for lots of people not just you. and thats true for every game. so just relax and try to ahve fun playin the game once in a while!
and why is everyone in this message board so stingy latley. i havnt seen one god damned nice post! is everyone that plays this game that unhappy all the time?
Now I have been drinking the red wine so excuse me 
Forums are here for people to voice opinions wether you agree or not.
I enjoy xp as I have posted before but to rant on as above is just asking for trouble.I think i’ll go to bed now…
i know this is all about people who liek to voice there opinion, and i totally agree with that, but i dissagree with the people who constantly bitch about everything…whiners. :disgust:
wait? double negative of what? i was talking about people dislikeing the game and just coming on here to complain about it.
I think everybody in this forum enjoys the game and thinks it’s great.Most air their views on what they think would improve the game. 
Yep, I love the game and I don’t bitch about anything except XP and occassionally Covert-Ops (cos they’re easiest Class to XP whore).
Personally I’m not too fond of Panzers cos I think a lot of people do use them to get cheap kills. Rifle 'nades piss me off sometimes cos they enable the user to get quick revenge on whoever kills them (you get shot, knee-jerk reaction to pull the trigger and your assailant gets a Rifle 'nade in the face as you die). I’m also seeing Mortars being used more effectively and becoming a right pain in the backside.
But I don’t bitch about any of these things cos part of the fun is devising strategies to deal with them. The diversity of Classes and weapons is what makes ET such a unique and wonderful game.
But none of this applies to the games scoring system. It should be just that, a scoring system, which you can ignore or not as you see fit, as is the case in almost every other game you could mention. It shouldn’t have an impact on the game, like giving some players 35% more accurate weapons, or flak jackets to make them almost invincible, or 50% more health than anyone else, etc., just cos they’ve been on the server longer or have performed functions that were not necessarily in the best interests of their team.
So, don’t link those who bitch about XP (like me) with those that bitch about this Class or that weapon. I’m not trying to change anything about the game, just it’s scoring system.
yeah, thats really true, cause dont cov ops get like 6 xp just for a head shot, its the class i play the most, but i guess pay the least attention to.
but one fo the things i like most about the game is that for every stratagy that anyone has theres always a counter stratagy. kinda like virtua fighter, just endless counters, but i guess thats true for almost every game.
The only thing I have to say against my beloved XP system, is that people don’t tend to do things that don’t give them experience. The primary example of this is the CovOp smoke. I rarely see people use smoke even though it can make a huge difference if properly used (smoke the bridge crates you noobs). Sometimes when you play with good people (like me) they do throw plenty of smoke at key locations and it can really tip the fate of the match. There are other examples where people don’t do something vital because it doesn’t give them enough XP. A good example of this is feeding ammo to mobile mgs and panzers. In my opinion if the above two are handled by good players and are constantly supplied with health and ammo they can be impenetrable (defense mainly). But you get much more xp from airstrikes, and giving out ammo does drain your charge bar pretty quickly so…
However i disagree with people saying that they should get the medal for their class (mainly engineer) for completing an objective. If you’re a level 1 engineer and manage to blow up the oasis guns then you did it mainly because of luck. If you’re a level 4 engineer you did it because of skill. Your flack jaket protected you against the enemy artillery and landmines, and with your improved destruction you managed to lay 3 dynamites at the objective. Plus you had enough charge left to throw some rifle grenades at the oncoming enemy engineers.
In conclusion XP gives you somthing to look forward too, it makes the matches progressively more challenging as people gain levels, and level 4 units are sometimes neccessary to properly attack or defend the objective.
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I don’t have a clue what you base that on. Surely it takes more skill to get to the gun alive, plant and defend without the flak jacket… Luck?
I base that from considerable personal experience. And yes it is either luck or a really really crummy nazi team. A level 1 engineer will be killed by the first nade that gets thrown in the little gun room, thus leaving his one dynamite defensless.
I take back my comments against XP. You see if people only do things that give them experience, that just goes to show you how much they like experience. They’re willing to do anything just to get it. Why bother doing anything if it doesn’t give you experience. That’s not how i think, but I’m sure it is how many people think (especially new players, who haven’t had the sweet joy of being general yet).
its all depending on what kinda game you get in, if you get in a game with a bunch of people that are playing the game for fun and dont really care about xp (which is what i run into most)
or you could run into a game with xp gimping whores that play to make themselves look good, because they sit in front of their computer all day and have 400xp and that makes them the cool kids…somthign along those lines. i dunno thought, ive had all sorts of games. ive been in a 32p map where no one was doing the objectives, we were all just messing around, team killing, spawn camping, knife wars, whatever we want. it just depends on what kind of game you get in to.
What a crock of shit!
If you blew the guns as LVL4 Engy you managed it partly because the game gave you abilities beyond your skill. If you do it as LVL1 you used your own skills to complete the objective. I know which way I’d rather do it. Remember, a LVL4 Engy can have as much “luck” as a LVL1. The difference between the 2 is that the LVL1 Engy has only skill to rely on, whereas the LVL4 has been on the server long enough to accrue skills he hasn’t (and couldn’t) earn through practise or natural ability.
LVL4 is only “necessary” to attack or defend if the other team are LVL4 as well. If they weren’t, you wouldn’t need to be either, and it would be your skill against theirs only, which is as it should be, rather than the game software having a say in who wins.
if you don’t like the unit upgrade system, then don’t play this game. What are you wasting our time arguing for. Go play quake or unreal.
[quote=“Machine for to kill”]
if you don’t like the unit upgrade system, then don’t play this game. What are you wasting our time arguing for. Go play quake or unreal.[/quote]
OMG, this is a forum, you’re supposed to discuss diffrent aspects of the game. How mature of you…
First of all this is not discussing an aspect of the game. This is saying I don’t like this thing so change the game for everyone. It’s a childish argument like NOP pointed out a few posts earlier. Read through all the posts in this thread and you’ll understand it better why this isn’t really a discussion.
If you want mature then perhaps you should take a read through this thread
http://www.splashdamage.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5305
it’s similar to this one only bitching about something else.
ok, i fell like were fighting too much, so im gonna try to bring a little positivness…yeah. ok positivness into this atmosphere.
Hi machine, how are you?
you look great today, and you know all of your posts are well thought out and nice to read.
hey kendle, how are you doing? its been a while since ive seen you post messages. its good to see you again. i hope to read more of your posts. have a good day kendle.
see, doesnt that feel better guys, cant we just discuss this like normal people. i mean it is a disscussion board, not a lets fight and flame each other like a bunch of stupid retards board. lets just be nice for once, i mean we can still talk about it but lets not constantly flame each other for no good reason. it gets annoying, you guys fight liek yoru going 5to be able to magically change the other persons views and go over to thier house and beat them up. um…nope, you cant. so stop bitching, you guys sound liek a bunch of old women.
besides machine wernt you the person who posted a message on my thread about common human decency?
touché
I agree with you zeppelin, in a way it’s what I’ve been trying to say all along. You play your game and let other people play theirs. Play and let play.
exactly! now how come we all just cant get along? lets still talk about it but nto just argue like wemon, myself included