5v5 or 6v6 Min level 10 servers....when?


(AnonOmis1000) #41

Business isn’t only about making money, it’s about providing a service or selling a product that meets a certain level of quality. And that’s the business as a whole. Not the devs. Game development is high risk. It’s like going to college to get a degree in English. You don’t do it because it’s gonna be easy to get a job, you do it because you’re passionate about it.

As for in game transactions, there’s nothing that states that a beta game can’t have them. The only reason people think that is because Total Biscuit said it. While I have a ton of respect for him, his word is not rule. It costs money to develop a game, and if your game is F2P, the only way you can generate revenue is with microtransactions.

Finally, there are several reasons why they’d shift people off of DB to other projects. One is that the other project needs more people in order to meet a deadline. Another is that DB just doesn’t need that many people working on it at the same time. Right now it seems like, besides releasing the last 3 mercs and any new maps, they are really just fine tuning and balancing the game. You don’t need a ton of coders to do that. You also don’t need any graphical designers for balancing.


(PurpleHippo) #42

Bumperino, min level 20 servers added and still no 5v5 or 6v6.


(AnonOmis1000) #43

Where the fuck do you see min 20 servers?


(PurpleHippo) #44

In the server browser?


(supergonzo) #45

yeah, min lvl 20 7vs7 servers, but still no 6vs6 servers with ff on, because they are “listing” to the community.


(PurpleHippo) #46

They doesnt seem to realise public 5v5 servers with ff on would be a step towards getting more people used to ranked format and actually playing that…it just makes me giggle thinking about how clueless they are in some areas.


(watsyurdeal) #47

We definitely need this, 6v6 is where the game is best. Anything beyond that becomes a bit too crazy and chaotic.


(AnonOmis1000) #48

Do we have an official statement somewhere that recently shows that they want it to be 5v5? The very fact they’ve implemented min 10 servers only for 7v7 shows that they likely think it is the preferred format.


(bgyoshi) #49

SD has said it over and over in patch notes that 5v5 Ranked is the core game and the intended format.


(PurpleHippo) #50

SD have said 5v5 ranked is the intended format the game is balanced around. Even if 7v7 were the prefered format (i doubt it actually is but hey i got no statistics to back me up) there is absolutely no reason not to ahve 5v5 or 6v6 servers as well.

You simply dont seem to understand we want 6v6 and/or 5v5 servers in addition to the current 7v7 ones, In what way does it hurt you if they were to add this? Why are you even arguing against it?


(Glot) #51

[quote=“PurpleHippo;27688”]7v7 is a retarded format. Why cant get get some 6v6 or 5v5 min level 10 servers already?

And no “ranked” doesn’t work because I’m stuck with the same kind of incompetents I get in normal pubs so why bother? (plus the idea of trinkets as reward offends me, don’t ask me to explain it just does)
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totally agree. 7v7 is an insult for tactical play.
6v6 is borderline
5v5 is ideal.

Raziel said, that they will change it to whatever we want, IF we give the right amount of feedback on this. leeeets go!


(Dawnlazy) #52

Would like them to lower min. 10s to 6v6 and min. 20s to 5v5, maybe half of them with FF on.


(AnonOmis1000) #53

I’m not arguing against it. If you want it that’s fine. But I don’t understand their logic. If they want 5v5 to be the official format, why make min 10 servers ONLY for 7v7? Just seems like a rather odd choice.


(nokiII) #54

We don’t either, that’s the problem.


(Glot) #55

i have!

[quote=“Szakalot;163280”][quote=“PurpleHippo;163231”][quote=“Szakalot;163198”]i like 7v7 but id would love 6v6 minlvl10s

imo 5v5 is not such a good idea cause its too vulnerable to ragequits and drop in/out nature of pubs.

and give us minlvl20!![/quote]

On the contrary 5v5 might be a great way of getting people used to the format and playing more ranked (though i admit its not that likely to happen)[/quote]

and how are you going to address the issues of drop in/out, ragequits, and frankly much more difficult balance?[/quote]

  1. Spec slots at every server above teamsize (be that 5v5 or 6v6 or 7v7)
  2. easy pause/resume vote system

BONGO!


(Szakalot) #56

you expect people on pubs to sit in spec, or wait through a pause?

i though you had a GOOD answer : P


(nokiII) #57

[quote=“Szakalot;166733”]you expect people on pubs to sit in spec, or wait through a pause?

i though you had a GOOD answer : P[/quote]

It worked in ET. v0v


(Mrarauzz) #58

I vote for @Dawnrazor idea


(Glot) #59

[quote=“Szakalot;166733”]you expect people on pubs to sit in spec, or wait through a pause?

i though you had a GOOD answer : P[/quote]

it worked perfectly in quakelive. i rarely (probably never) switched a quakelive server because or people quited, and server got deserted.
people commented on the current game and had fun there in specs, some pple didnt even want to join - they just specced their friends, and only joined when balanced was obviously needed


(onLooSe) #60

[quote=“Glottis-3D;166770”][quote=“Szakalot;166733”]you expect people on pubs to sit in spec, or wait through a pause?

i though you had a GOOD answer : P[/quote]

it worked perfectly in quakelive. i rarely (probably never) switched a quakelive server because or people quited, and server got deserted.
people commented on the current game and had fun there in specs, some pple didnt even want to join - they just specced their friends, and only joined when balanced was obviously needed[/quote]

This is really true man… I miss those times a lot. The harsh reality now is that those players in quakelive were old generation shooter players just like me. We got beaten by dumbed down games for 5 year olds in the past 10 years. We officially died out. For my 700 hours + in game in DB I’m safe to say this won’t work… Intelligent players are hard to be seen.