11.6 ati drivers are out and...

(szr) #41

Yes, really :slight_smile:

(Breo) #42

ATi cards/drivers are bad optimised for OGL games?

Unfortunatly I have similar performance issues with Brink and Enemy Territory Quake Wars aswell.
It depends on where I am and which map (e.g. Security Tower). But if I stand still and look at another direction it can drop from ~120 to ~40 frames.
No problem, but the (mouse) movements etc. feels different/laGGy :o:eek::mad:

For Security Tower, it’s probably the rendering of the huge ammount of light sources, I’m not sure though.

Anyway my specs are above the Brink minimum requirements:

Intel Core i7 920
ATi HD5870
6GB DDR3
Velociraptor 10k RPM

MS Windows 7, 64bit / Catalyst version 11.5b

Other titles as Battlefield Bad Company 2, Medal of Honour, Crysis 2 & Call of Duty Black Ops have pretty stable frames on my system.

(Wezelkrozum) #43

Have you tried to unlock the 4th core? I know it sounds weird, but some triple cores of AMD actually have a 4th locked core.

(kilL_888) #44

everybody just order a card from nvidia via amazon. here in germany you can resend any product for the first 4 weeks, dunno if this applies to other countries as well.

just try it out, you know. and report back here if it does any good.

(Je T´aime) #45

I also noticed that the 11.5 drivers and the 11.6 now makes the sound slutters a lot more for some reason so still 11.2 and 11.3 feels smoother , and crossfire enabled or disabled makes no diference at all in terms of fps.

(supermac) #46

Not a word from ATI , not a word from SD …

Thhat’s the only problem for me … :frowning:
I’m sad (because I really like it) but this game is dying … :frowning:

(light_sh4v0r) #47

Haven’t played Brink in 2 weeks, not planning to play it anytime soon either. ETQW was worth the €50,-, in hindsight I wouldn’t have bought Brink at all had I known this. €50,- for 8GB of diskspace filled with a great game that gets no use because it refuses to work.

(legend123) #48

My specs:

AMD Athlon II X4 630
4gb ddr3
1tb hd
radeon hd 5770

My observation:

From the following past SD games (which afaik all used opengl)
W:ET, QW:ET, and now Brink
Im starting to agree with Kendle…
I think this game might be very cpu dependant (just like W:ET was).

I have seen some people with a 5770 and worst cpu than mine play with better graphics though
This then makes me thinking it might be a driver problem.
However all these drivers are doing NOTHING.

I have also seen that alot of people who say they are fine with their ati cards are playing on older smaller resolutions. Im using 1920x1080 atm and probably a lot of others are too.

Opengl is badly optimized to run with ATI (maybe)
-Blame the people who made opengl, blame sd, and blame ati, etc

I dont know anymore it makes my head hurt :frowning:
This is probably the last ati card I buy as well.

PS…
On average my fps is from 25-45 (usually 30-40 range im guessing)
No config changes work for me. No cvar command helps.

(The_Smurph) #49

[QUOTE=Kendle;339118]First, the HD5770 is not a great card, second, Brink is very CPU dependent, what CPU do you have ?

FWIW I have a HD4890 (which is a better card than the 5770 despite being a lower number) and a triple core CPU (AMD Phenom II X3) and get 60-80 FPS mostly. It can sometimes drop to 45-ish, but often rises to 100+ in some places.

I’ve tried about a dozen different drivers for my GPU, tried loads of different config settings, and even overclocked the card, nothing made much difference.

I applied a 10% overclock to my CPU (the BIOS on my motherboard has an option to do it automatically to save messing about with memory timings and voltages etc.) and that made about 10% difference to my FPS.

The thing is, even at a steady 60 - 80 FPS, the game is still choppy. I think it’s the idTech4 engine, ET:QW was the same for me. It’s playable, but against silky smooth engines like idTech3, Frostbite and Source idTech4 is poor and probably always will be.

(tl:dr - it’s not an ATi problem, or anything SD can fix, it’s a ****ty CPU heavy engine, unless you’re prepared to throw significantly more grunt at it, you’re stuck with the performance you have)[/QUOTE]

The 4890 is not better than a 5770. In fact they are pretty close to the same damn card.

If ya would look into specs, ya would see the only real difference is the memory bandwidth, and with out knowing which card he has, we dont know if its a reference model or not. God people, dont make silly statements about hardware unless ya understand what your talking about.

The is a poorly optimized game for the ATI people. Everyone knows about the ATI OpenCL drivers. They have never been great but the performance of this game is beyond horrible. And to top it off, the frame rates arent stable at all. One moment Im near 100 and the next im in 30’s. The look of the graphics dont appear to be all that demanding. Hell BFBC2 looks, flows, and runs better than this game ever could hope for. Poor texture optimization is really what the bad performance is all about

Check my specs, Im running a quad core over 4 ghz and yet I have horrible frame rates. A powerful cpu is nice to have but really has very little graphics effect when your are at resolutions over 1600X1200. Ill try killing a core and running my Quad as Tri and Ill let ya know the performance change if ya want.
:penguin:

(Kendle) #50

My mobo doesn’t support it, otherwise I would :wink:

(supermac) #51

If it’s a “CPU dependant” problem, the fault is for splash damage no…?

Why a game like that (poor graphics) need a big CPU and not the others FPS on the market ?

Bah, I’ve got so many games … I forget BRINK … Maybe in several months, with my Nvidia…

But please, SD, tell us what’s happen ?

Thanks ! :slight_smile:

(Kendle) #52

[QUOTE=The_Smurph;339370]The 4890 is not better than a 5770. In fact they are pretty close to the same damn card.

If ya would look into specs, ya would see the only real difference is the memory bandwidth, and with out knowing which card he has, we dont know if its a reference model or not. God people, dont make silly statements about hardware unless ya understand what your talking about.
[/QUOTE]

Probably best to post a relevant link then if you wanna be picky. I have a 4890, that page talks about 4870 and 5770.

Try these :-

http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=Radeon+HD+4890
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=Radeon+HD+5770

(Smoochy) #53

gteat, now i keep crashing after installing 11.6…

trying uninstall cap5.

frikkin ATI!

(EnderWiggin.DA.) #54

[QUOTE=Kendle;339118]
The thing is, even at a steady 60 - 80 FPS, the game is still choppy. I think it’s the idTech4 engine, ET:QW was the same for me. It’s playable, but against silky smooth engines like idTech3, Frostbite and Source idTech4 is poor and probably always will be.[/QUOTE]

Brink uses a different renderer than Doom3, ETQW. How different? I don’t know, but SD rewrote both the video and sound renderers iirc. I think you are comparing apples to oranges. You still may not like, it. That’s cool.

(Codine) #55

The best performance I’ve had with this game was on 10.2 drivers. But even that wouldnt bring solid gameplay. Fps was 40 at max and would drop all the time. Now with anything newer my fps is around 20 and still always dropping.

Idk who to blame but Brink is a mess. A month gone and people still cant play.

(legend123) #56

[QUOTE=supermac;339378]If it’s a “CPU dependant” problem, the fault is for splash damage no…?

Why a game like that (poor graphics) need a big CPU and not the others FPS on the market ?

Bah, I’ve got so many games … I forget BRINK … Maybe in several months, with my Nvidia…

But please, SD, tell us what’s happen ?

Thanks ! :)[/QUOTE]

Assuming it is more cpu based than graphics card based…

I think each party might be guilty…
You know I think its their relationship with the other which is bad (they need a divorce hahahha :D)

You can blame Silicon Graphics, Khronos Group, SD, Bethesda, ATI, etc :oppressor:

(The_Smurph) #57

[QUOTE=Kendle;339379]Probably best to post a relevant link then if you wanna be picky. I have a 4890, that page talks about 4870 and 5770.

Try these :-

http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=Radeon+HD+4890
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=Radeon+HD+5770[/QUOTE]

Relevant?, ROFL LMAO, Im sry if you cant find the relevance then you know very little. The 4890 is basically an update of the 4870, its runs faster, that is all. That is in reference to the GPU and Memory speeds. Its the exact same architecture as the 4870. It has the exact same Shader Processors, Texture units, and ROPs. Which btw, the 5770 is pretty much the exact same thing except on a smaller die and a smaller Frame buffer, please look at the SPECS in my link. While the frame buffer def hurts the 5770 it doesnt make it a bad card.

If I had a 5770, I would overclock the hell out of it because that card can run all the way up 1000mhz.

Now back on topic, I will say these drivers did absolutely nothing for me performance wise on Brink. Its alright, the game is dead anyways.

(murka) #58

Nope, some get decent fps on same card and driver combo, others don’t so the issue still lies as a mystery.

(miDGet) #59

nothing has changed… :frowning: once again…

(Je T´aime) #60

[QUOTE=supermac;339378]If it’s a “CPU dependant” problem, the fault is for splash damage no…?

Why a game like that (poor graphics) need a big CPU and not the others FPS on the market ?

Bah, I’ve got so many games … I forget BRINK … Maybe in several months, with my Nvidia…

But please, SD, tell us what’s happen ?

Thanks ! :)[/QUOTE]

Well i think its more a ati issue, i played brink in my brother pc wich is worst then mine but runs on a nvidia and frame rate its about 60 s, while on mine its 20 s