[quote=“Alphafox;41142”]
I’m not sure that I understand your complain. You are complaining that the other player was good? Or you are complaining about spawn camping (which can sadly be done with every mercs)? I’m not sure of what you are complaining. [/quote]
Oh yeah every merc can access enemy spawn and sit behind them, because all mercs have invisibility 
[quote=“murkyCook;41149”][quote=“Alphafox;41142”]
I’m not sure that I understand your complain. You are complaining that the other player was good? Or you are complaining about spawn camping (which can sadly be done with every mercs)? I’m not sure of what you are complaining. [/quote]
Oh yeah every merc can access enemy spawn and sit behind them, because all mercs have invisibility [/quote]
You don’t need to be invisible to do that. Anyone that played the game for a decent amount of time knows that.
You showed and said it yourself, you lack experience with the game. Any decent team could pull that off, and honestly (don’t take it personally) if you guys can’t get rid of only 1 guy spawn camping you then you have a issue, and that issue isn’t Phantom.
[quote=“Alphafox;41154”][quote=“murkyCook;41149”][quote=“Alphafox;41142”]
I’m not sure that I understand your complain. You are complaining that the other player was good? Or you are complaining about spawn camping (which can sadly be done with every mercs)? I’m not sure of what you are complaining. [/quote]
Oh yeah every merc can access enemy spawn and sit behind them, because all mercs have invisibility [/quote]
You don’t need to be invisible to do that. Anyone that played the game for a decent amount of time knows that.
You showed and said it yourself, you lack experience with the game. Any decent team could pull that off, and honestly (don’t take it personally) if you guys can’t get rid of only 1 guy spawn camping you then you have a issue, and that issue isn’t Phantom.[/quote]
your profile picture says it all, nothing else to add.
[quote=“murkyCook;41156”]
[quote=“Alphafox;41154”][quote=“murkyCook;41149”][quote=“Alphafox;41142”]
I’m not sure that I understand your complain. You are complaining that the other player was good? Or you are complaining about spawn camping (which can sadly be done with every mercs)? I’m not sure of what you are complaining. [/quote]
Oh yeah every merc can access enemy spawn and sit behind them, because all mercs have invisibility [/quote]
You don’t need to be invisible to do that. Anyone that played the game for a decent amount of time knows that.
You showed and said it yourself, you lack experience with the game. Any decent team could pull that off, and honestly (don’t take it personally) if you guys can’t get rid of only 1 guy spawn camping you then you have a issue, and that issue isn’t Phantom.[/quote]
your profile picture says it all, nothing else to add.[/quote]
-Shrug- Whatever you say mate. I’m just giving you the infos, you are free to disregard them, but as someone who played for only 3 days you have alot to learn.
[quote=“murkyCook;41149”][quote=“Alphafox;41142”]
I’m not sure that I understand your complain. You are complaining that the other player was good? Or you are complaining about spawn camping (which can sadly be done with every mercs)? I’m not sure of what you are complaining. [/quote]
Oh yeah every merc can access enemy spawn and sit behind them, because all mercs have invisibility [/quote]
Yup they can. Just kill the enemy team on a long spawn and then walk in and take a seat.
The fact that people apologize for this fucking trash heap of a character is depressing
Can you counter him? Sure.
Is he balanced? No.
It he fun to play against? No.
Does he require a lot of skill? No.
Does he have to many things going for him? Yes.
I mean at the end of the day, only the second matters. Playing against this dude is a drag.
He should have no fucking shield cloak for one, and make more noise if he decloaks. And have no primary.
Fuck. Just remove him, its for the best
just got back from work sorry for a belated response.
[quote=“Bellarose;41098”][center]I think the topic should be
Phantom effectively ruined MY game Longevity
If you can’t learn to counter him, don’t blame it on a Character.
And if you cant learn to do that, don’t predict the game growth on your bad experience.
[/center][/quote]
He hasn’t ruined my game at all nor have i said he did. I plan on playing this game for a long time. I’m not the guy who’s going to leave because of it, it will be the casual gamers (who consist of the large majority of the community) that will leave. I actively play phantom in pub and he is ridiculous. I want this game to flourish. I think this game is excellent bar a few things and i want this game to have both a strong competitive and public scene. I have played other fps’s competitively and have stuck with games that have had no reason to be competitive as well as other extremely mainstream ones. The games that have accelerated their own demise are often conflicted with what they want their game to be and never fully go down one path they just sit in the middle, fading away.
Phantom is not the reason this game is going downhill. The way he has been implemented and the overall strategies that have been put into place with regards to the games development have been poor and it will, i have no doubt, detriment the games overall success.
One only has to look to the forums of this site to see affirmation of what i have been talking about
nice trailer
im not a fan of the meta introduced by ghost boy. melee and inv is just too fantasy for my shooter game, well unless its crysis
its not that he is hard to counter, or play against, so much - there are a few things like a loadout that lets him cloak longer and basically ignore mines etc that might be a little strong and that sword reach is super crazy but ima wait a bit and see, play more, before making a final judgement
OP is easy in normal maps except white chapel map…He has a black smoke kinda thing when invisible and since its already DARK, he is almost impossible to see… (for players with normal config)
[quote=“cornJester;40950”][quote=“tenderSwordfish;40944”]> @cornJester said:
Not my fault your Vassilis aren’t throwing their cloak cancelling sensors around more often.
there’s absolutely nothing wrong with the cloak/invis. I never said there was.
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Cancel his cloak you remove his shield too. So yeah, Vassili counters him.[/quote]
Vassili counter them? BS. While it’s true that the motion sensor kinda counter them 1) the recharge time is painfully long and 2) if i thow the sensor in the back line to avoid phantom backstabbing half of the team it means i can’t throw it near the objective. So it’s more like Phantom counter Vassili than the opposite.
Personally i didn’t. I actually liked playing against them (especially Sparks since she can counter-snipe me if it’s user know what he’s doing). Phantom? I can’t stand him.
[quote=“murkyCook;41138”]I started playing dirty bomb 3 days ago, been playing at least 2-3 hours everyday, got to level 10 within no time.
I only came to this forum just to say that I officially quit this game after I saw the joke of Phantom.
I bet those people defending it didn’t play against a good phantom ingame.
Basically phantom is going invisible to enemy spawn to sit there, even today a phantom was sitting with his invis powers on the C4.
This is just a joke. The game was fun. But according to my experience with nexon games, they always TURN sh*t.
good bye.[/quote]
Everyone here should give respect to that post. He just expressed the biggest problem with this merc right now. No matter your opinion about phantom, this is what all players who started this week will think. And Nexon’s reputation clearly does not help indeed.
And here are the good old threads we already had about Fragger back in the days. I played a good 4 hours yesterday with mates who directly bought him. In no time, we just noticed one obvious thing : They were able to be at the top of the scoreboard with ludicrous kdr effortlessly. Sometimes more than twice the score of any other player. Even with people (including me) who got a grip of what can pull Phantom out of his comfort zone. For me, that’s a good proof of a merc superiority. It was the same about fragger before his nerf. A medium level player (compared to the rest of the server) was able to do just right the same.
As the OP said, there are major flaws with this merc right now which should have been detected during proper play testing. Katana is absolutely not following neither its animation nor its supposed range. Right now, it has more in common with a fishing rod than any sword which possibly existed. Thus making him a complete god on close range.
Quality melee hit. And Bomba was way higher from my client side…
Personnally, I’d like to add that a melee god is preposterous. If there was something where all the merc already released before this patch were on par, melee was definitely it. I always played melee weapons a lot and use it quite frequently even in serious situation (ty chivalry). Now it’s all finished. No, we can’t use melee wisely if there is a phantom in the enemy team.
[quote=“ghostBase;40983”]
In Phantom’s case however, you can already see that the character IS, in fact, overpowered.
A well-played phantom is nearly impossible to catch, and even a not-so-well-played phantom wrecks shit in public play.[/quote]
So you are telling me a good player is good at the game?
And a bad player using phantom is still decent at the game because all the bad players don’t know how to counter him yet?
I’ve encountered good phantoms and bad phantoms. I have no problem killing them, and the good and bad phantoms have no problem killing me. In fact, I bet if that good phantom went a different class they would still be killing me just as much. It’s not like a good player magically disappears from the top of the scoreboard because he switched to another class.
There are only two small things they should try adjusting with him:
The audible cloak sound should be a bit louder. And the cloak should be a tiny bit more visible, especially since bullets can bounce off of it.
He really doesn’t need to have that much of a camo’d cloak, since most of the time it’s very easy to actually get behind an enemy team WITHOUT being phantom. (Just hide in a corner and don’t shoot… the creep wave walks right past).