=XD= clan server WORST EVER

(Kendle) #41

I’d agree, but listing a server as “bad” and discouraging people from playing on it, based on a single bad experience seems unfair IMO. If it were several people, over a period of time, maybe, but Mr.Chirs has black-listed servers he only played on once.

(puubert) #42

I’d agree, but listing a server as “bad” and discouraging people from playing on it, based on a single bad experience seems unfair IMO. If it were several people, over a period of time, maybe, but Mr.Chirs has black-listed servers he only played on once.[/quote]

As long as he says it’s his own single personal experience, then I don’t see a problem. If he has a single bad experience and then spins the story to make it sound like this happens regularly, then you gotta problem. But he wasn’t doing that. Besides, what kind of idiot would go back to a server where they’ve had problems? Do you keep touching an electric fence once it shocks you?

(Kendle) #43

I do.

If I were to maintain a website listing every server on which something had happened that I didn’t like it would be friggin enormous. The reason I don’t is because I accept these are my own personal, isolated, experiences and are likely to be of no relevance to anyone else. Of course I wouldn’t visit a server a 2nd time if I’d had a bad experience there, that’s my choice. I would not consider it justification, however, for making that experience public and encouraging others to make the same choice.

Whilst his motives may seem sound at first glance, I think he’s in danger of doing an injustice to people who, unlike him, have paid good money to run public servers.

He should keep his opinions to himself unless and until they’ve been ratified by a substantial number of other players.

(SittingDuck) #44

Wow…well, I’ve played with =XD= in RtCW days and even scrimmed them a couple of times. I have no idea where this thread is coming from because they’ve always been stand up guys and have a pretty good reputation. In fact, =DoW= holds them in high regard too.

I didn’t see the incident in question, but I know for a fact that =XD= would never kick someone who was pawning. What they do is keep the server running for a fun…keeping the smack talk down and keeping people happy. Lamness factor? If they get a 10/10 for lameness then you should give every server out there 10/10 with good admins who keep the flow of traffic going and the smack talk down on their servers…

In any case, =XD= is a stand up clan and I’d be happy to play on their servers any day.

(Machine for to kill) #45

Just like clans pay for their servers and do what they want on them, Mr. Chris pays for his website and he can say whatever the fuck he wants on it. Don’t like it? Don’t visit it.

(Kendle) #46

Whilst I’d agree with you Machine, it’s kinda hypocritical for you to use that argument.

You can’t berate Clans for administering their servers the way they do on the basis that it’s not fair or just, and then say it’s OK for someone like Mr.Chris to do what he does, even though it’s not fair or just either. Two wrongs don’t make a right, or didn’t your mother teach you that? :slight_smile:

I respect and defend Mr.Chris’s “right” to make such a website, I just don’t think it’s fair to brand servers “lame” based on a single isolated experience. Besides, it’s considerably easier for the casual gamer to visit a website than it is to visit a server and play on it for a while to form an opinion, so I’m not sure your argument is entirely justifed anyway.

Might I suggest, when Mr.Chris gets round to reading this, that he refrain from “black-listing” a server until someone other than himself has a similar experience to report, then it’s not just his word against the server Admins, and that he should also provide a means for “black-listed” server Admins to post a rebuttal of his claims. That would lend weight to his observations and perhaps make his site a more worthwhile endeavour. I’m as keen as the next man to avoid servers with lame Admins and would appreciate such a site myself, as long as it was balanced and impartial.

(BoomStick) #47

Ofcourse he can say whatever he wants. im all for freedom of speach. But when he posts a server as “bad” based on a single experience his “lameness factor” goes threw the roof. And im sure that since l2 complained about the server and told him, he had expectations going into the server that he would have problems. Problems which he didnt have. no one gave him a hard time. The only argument he had to mark it “bad” was that my clan mates wanted to play on the same team, Somone said shit about my friends family and got kicked, and somone being muted cause he had a foul mouth with kids on the server. If that makes a server bad he better mark down 98% of the servers out there as “bad”. He probably could ya know he’d only have to play there for 5 minutes and see an admin kick someone. Why don’t you put some forums up on your website? Are you afraid some people will defend the servers you “blacklisted”?

(BoomStick) #48

Ofcourse he can say whatever he wants. im all for freedom of speach. But when he posts a server as “bad” based on a single experience his “lameness factor” goes threw the roof. And im sure that since l2 complained about the server and told him, he had expectations going into the server that he would have problems. Problems which he didnt have. no one gave him a hard time. The only argument he had to mark it “bad” was that my clan mates wanted to play on the same team, Somone said shit about my friends family and got kicked, and somone being muted cause he had a foul mouth with kids on the server. If that makes a server bad he better mark down 98% of the servers out there as “bad”. He probably could ya know he’d only have to play there for 5 minutes and see an admin kick someone. Why don’t you put some forums up on your website? Are you afraid some people will defend the servers you “blacklisted”?

Hey duck, thanx for the kind words.

(Mr. Chris) #49

For those who didn’t get the IP, it was the OSG server’s IP I posted. Almost always full and lots of good peeps, no clanstacking.

I do think XD takes their gaming a bit seriously. FFS it’s just a game! :eek:

As for the 1 visit thing, that’s not always true. The Just Cause clan used to be on the text version of the bad list till I visited it several times without problems, and it got removed and bumped up to the good list

Purpose was not cheating on your server, when you accused him, he was having fun with a silly reply, than you ban him. Dumb :disgust:

(BoomStick) #50

http://alpha.sitelutions.com/~founder/forum/viewtopic.php?t=155

(amazinglarry) #51

I think Chris can do whatever he wants, though I believe some of this servers listed as “good times” are wrong.

If anybody remembers my post about the server and admin that was just about to kick me for going out the back door (yea it was long ago) well Chris has it listed in his good server list. the IPKonfig server.

So it’s clear that what’s bad for one person is ok for another. I seriously doubt that Chris’ own personal experiences with a server is going to heavily affect people’s decisions on it.

(L2|B4tt3rY) #52

chris can do what he wants, infact i think its a good thing what he is doing, if you are runnning a bad server then people should be notified, i see his website like a book review, reviewing servers etc its a cool origional idea i mean clans that run a nice server should be appreciated.

ok im not bothered where this discussion is going, but it still doesnt answer why i am banned

(puubert) #53

I do.

If I were to maintain a website listing every server on which something had happened that I didn’t like it would be friggin enormous. The reason I don’t is because I accept these are my own personal, isolated, experiences and are likely to be of no relevance to anyone else. Of course I wouldn’t visit a server a 2nd time if I’d had a bad experience there, that’s my choice. I would not consider it justification, however, for making that experience public and encouraging others to make the same choice.

Whilst his motives may seem sound at first glance, I think he’s in danger of doing an injustice to people who, unlike him, have paid good money to run public servers.

He should keep his opinions to himself unless and until they’ve been ratified by a substantial number of other players.[/quote]

Can I ask the same of you since no one here ratifies your “shut up cause no one else agrees” argument? But of course you won’t, because you have the right to say it, just like Mr.Chris has the right to list servers HE doesn’t like.

(=DoW=Pele) #54

The title of this thread makes me laugh, if someone actually considers the =XD= server to be the worst ever then you obviously haven’t played on many servers in the ET world.

Mr Chris has the right to have a website were he lists bad servers, true…but I think it’s terribly wrong to list =XD=. I don’t think it will make a difference in the least seeing as I’ve never heard of his website till 2 minutes ago and I would visit servers regardless of what was said by others and draw my own conclusions. I also don’t believe that his “rating” will sway people in the end. The =XD= servers are always full with people that are regulars and that go to their servers for a decent gaming experience.

=XD= is a stand up clan. They try and run a decent server for people who enjoy gaming and are kind enough to fund it themselves. It really comes down to if you don’t like the server then don’t play on it and save everyone the headache of having to read ridiculous threads such as this one.

(The_Jesus_Zeppelin) #55

the topic of what server hosts can and can not or can and should not be able to do is a very very very thing little red line. its a very complicated subject of whos paying for it? is it a clan? is it a free server? theres a ton of crap that all makes the end answer about 1000 different variations.

while he has the right to get the word out about a clan that may have been cheating or just just a really cheap clan and didnt play the game with any sort fo respect for other players, only for xp. thats fine, but i dont agree with just outright attacks on a clan for where they may or may not have been cheating, if you post and say hey this clan looked like they were cheating that cool, ill look out for them and when i get into a game with them ill see if he was right, but if you have some sort of proof thats about 1000 times better.

dont get me wrong, i think it great when somone exposes a cheater to the gaming world, it makes it a better place to play. and i think its great that this thread had people defending the clan and clans liek it that are misunderstood. but you cant forget its real easy for that person to change his screen name. or server name. so theres always gonna be cheaters out there. but dont hold a grudge against a clan or person unless you know for a fact that they are cheating and can prove it when you post somthiong that just outright attachs somone. keep it clean guys,

K.I.M. for every action there is and equal and opposite reaction. :bored:

(^POTATO) #56

Well since i basically started all this I may as well end it. Ill just say what happened: So i was playing on the XD server as i sometimes do, and after a few maps I had just about the same xp as everyone else. So anyways I was playing and wotornot said stuff like “wow great aim you got there”, I shrugged that off and continued playing. So later on oasis, xd texas says to me “nice wallhack you got there purpose”. I took this as a joke and said “thanks I programmed it myself” bad idea, i know, dont give me grief about it. So anyways, I got banned a few seconds later. At this point I stopped playing and went on MSN, and theres battery. So I tell him to go on the server and tell them to unban me, that it was a misunderstanding. Well, he went there and they said that they couldnt, but then he played a little longer, something went down, and he found himself banned, and pissed off (by the way what did he get banned for??). He came here and posted, and what your seeing now is the result. OK, now on to other things. In regards to clan stacking, I think its just plain out gay. If the teams are totally uneven, the clan runnning the server shouldnt sit by and watch as many people cry for a shuffle (voting is strangly disabled on the server… hmm…) . And when teams are uneven by numbers as well, putting a few low xp players from your team onto the other team does not help. You make the excuse “we are on gamevoice, and we all want to play as a team”, well try it sometime and youll find that its not so bad to play on different teams. Its not like you will be discussing super top secret important axis only strategies on voice comm. And sometimes you can trick the other team (like saying “i got uni at back door” will surely get some axis to come back there, while your team is building the ramp) And its even more fun when someone owns another person from the clan, you should hear our vent server when we are playing.

Sorry for making such a large post, but whatever. Oh and mr. chris I like the demo. Jesus wotornot, just give it a rest “i want an apology letter on my desk tomorrow morning, or you will be banned, and your little dog too”

That is all.

(The_Jesus_Zeppelin) #57

Whahubidada?
your the one that came on here complaining that a server kicked you for saying somthing that in 90% of all servers would not be taken as a joke, and if i was running a server and somone said that id have to kick them just because of the possibility that he is after saying somthing like that. the guy made an honest choice.

(puubert) #58

I think it’s pretty obvious if someone says “Nice wallhack you got there”, they are baiting you, and trying to provoke a response, and I can bet he would have been banned regardless of his response. If he had responded to the aimbot comment, he would have been banned there. When he says “Thanks, I programmed it myself”, unless you have no concept of sarcasm, it’s an obvious joke. I think the admin was looking for ways to push people’s buttons. Hence, they go on the bad server list for admins abusing their powers.

(The_Jesus_Zeppelin) #59

but the internet is a natural sarcasim blocker as you cant read tone of voice through it, so theres no way for the server host to know. but you could be right. there are servers out there that are really poorly managed.

(puubert) #60

I know some sarcasm is lost through written word, but his comment seems pretty cut and dry to me.