Would you like to see Limited Founder Packs with each Expansion/Content Update?

(almondFlower) #1

Hello.

So I just made a post in a thread what makes me and what not to invest in a F2P game.
And that reminded me of something one of my Fav F2P games does, and does it right.

Path of Exile introduces with each expansion/content update Founders Packs to purchase for a limited time (1 or 2 months available), themed after the content update with different tiers/prices/items in it.

Would you guys like something liek this to happen in Dirty Bomb?

Don’t get me wrong. I know there were already Founder Packs in Closed Beta. I don’t want your Obsidian Skyhammer :slight_smile:

But there are so much Mercs without Obsidian… In my opinion this is a huge opportunity both for the Devs to get some good income, and also for us players to get some good deal.

So… Would you like to see Limited Founder Packs with each Expansion/Content Update?

(Hibbsan) #2

if they ever did something like this i would definitely buy it. But i’m honestly not sure if i’m against it or not.

(Mr-Penguin) #3

So basically CW cards (update themed), but locked behind a paywall?

No.

(almondFlower) #4

[quote=“derpypenguinz19;117598”]So basically CW cards (update themed), but locked behind a paywall?

No.[/quote]

@derpypenguinz19

Well, I’m starting to think those who said “freeloaders” were actually right. Since anything above Bronze is purely cosmetic, I don’t see the problem for them being “locked behind a paywall”. Just like Skyhammers Obsidian was locked… no1 got advantage from that.

These would just be skins with other visual extras… which gives the devs money they obviously need, and also the users a good chunk of content who decide to Fund the game.

(Mr-Penguin) #5

[quote=“almondFlower;117600”][quote=“derpypenguinz19;117598”]So basically CW cards (update themed), but locked behind a paywall?

No.[/quote]

@derpypenguinz19

Well, I’m starting to think those who said “freeloaders” were actually right. Since anything above Bronze is purely cosmetic, I don’t see the problem for them being “locked behind a paywall”. Just like Skyhammers Obsidian was locked… no1 got advantage from that.

These would just be skins with other visual extras… which gives the devs money they obviously need, and also the users a good chunk of content who decide to Fund the game.[/quote]

It’s not an issue of having an advantage, it’s that all players should have a chance to get any limited edition loadout (with the exception of Founders).

(almondFlower) #6

@derpypenguinz19

I really can’t agree with that. Not because I want to be a special snowflake :slight_smile:

It worked great in Path of Exile. Price range of Founders went from 5$ up to 10,000$.
Each tier had an additional “bling”. Even the 5$ pack contained several cool and unique stuff in it.

Every1 can afford 5$. I personally bought 3 Founders in that game, each costed 1000$.

Nevern seen a player who decided not to buy anything complain why he can’t have what others can. It was quite the opposite. They were appreciating that ppl are Funding the game so they can continue to play… for free.

In Dirty Bomb I’ve only spent 60euros. I say it in all honesty that I have 0 plan to do anymore purchase. Simply because I don’t see any reason to. Supportign the devs could be a reason… but I wont spend a 1000$ out of charity. I need to get something for it.
There are 0 incentives to spend money currently… and that is my issue. I want to spend, but there is nothing to spend it on that is worth it.

(Mr-Penguin) #7

[quote=“almondFlower;117605”]@derpypenguinz19

I really can’t agree with that. Not because I want to be a special snowflake :slight_smile:

It worked great in Path of Exile. Price range of Founders went from 5$ up to 10,000$.
Each tier had an additional “bling”. Even the 5$ pack contained several cool and unique stuff in it.

Every1 can afford 5$. I personally bought 3 Founders in that game, each costed 1000$.

Nevern seen a player who decided not to buy anything complain why he can’t have what others can. It was quite the opposite. They were appreciating that ppl are Funding the game so they can continue to play… for free.

In Dirty Bomb I’ve only spent 60euros. I say it in all honesty that I have 0 plan to do anymore purchase. Simply because I don’t see any reason to. Supportign the devs could be a reason… but I wont spend a 1000$ out of charity. I need to get something for it.
There are 0 incentives to spend money currently… and that is my issue. I want to spend, but there is nothing to spend it on that is worth it.[/quote]

The incentive to spend money is to support this great dev team so they can continue making content updates. The monetization could use some work, but that obviously isn’t SD’s first priority right now.

(almondFlower) #8

“The incentive to spend money is to support this great dev team so they can continue making content updates. The monetization could use some work, but that obviously isn’t SD’s first priority right now.”

If you really believe any1 will just throw out money they worked for, for nothing… Well, we live in a different world then.

(doxjq) #9

They’re just skins.

They provide no advantage, and no one is at a loss because someone else has shiny bling.

I’m all for it. As much as I have always been against paying for cosmetic crap in games (until recently), I believe that if people want to support the Dirty Bomb developers by spending real money on something they really like, then they should be able to. It makes nothing but sense especially when the funds can be used to develop the game further.

(FalC_16) #10

in other thread I already made a reference to Path of Exile…if the system would be the same as in PoE I would love to buy some guaranteed stuff… don’t want to purchase cat in a box

(SereneFlight) #11

Personally I would see the game giving you an obsidian cards once you play X hours with a merc.
So let’s say play 50 hours, for example, with Proxy and you’ll get Obsidian card for her.

(DMaster2) #12

[quote=“almondFlower;117613”]
If you really believe any1 will just throw out money they worked for, for nothing… Well, we live in a different world then.[/quote]
Strange because donations are a thing in a lot of projects. If you want to support the devs you can spend some money here and there (like purchasing mercs with money instead of credits once in a while).

(Scav) #13

[quote=“derpypenguinz19;117598”]So basically CW cards (update themed), but locked behind a paywall?

No.[/quote]

Well, they were “available” for everyone. So now, there are ppl who grinded for days, and ppl who bought some CW elite cases, with no CW cards at all. I bet you there would be more “freeloaders” willing to spend some money if they could get stuff they want for sure. Paying for RNG is not very motivating, sure you gonna be happy when you get the cards, and will tell others to shut up, its fine, but if you dont, you spent money and basically didnt get anything.
Supporting the devs is a nice thing, but ppl need something in return, especially the illusion of appreciation. Money has nothing to do with good will, if you give someone money with expecting nothing in return, its sure a nice thing, but its also called a poor financial decision. And thats whats holding off at least some ppl.

(almondFlower) #14

[quote=“rhythmMirror;117618”]They’re just skins.

They provide no advantage, and no one is at a loss because someone else has shiny bling.

I’m all for it. As much as I have always been against paying for cosmetic crap in games (until recently), I believe that if people want to support the Dirty Bomb developers by spending real money on something they really like, then they should be able to. It makes nothing but sense especially when the funds can be used to develop the game further.[/quote]

Exectly my point. [quote=“DMaster2;117716”][quote=“almondFlower;117613”]
If you really believe any1 will just throw out money they worked for, for nothing… Well, we live in a different world then.[/quote]
Strange because donations are a thing in a lot of projects. If you want to support the devs you can spend some money here and there (like purchasing mercs with money instead of credits once in a while).[/quote]

Strange, but donations are not enough to keep something going, especially not enough to develop reasonable content. Buying a few Merc here and there for real money is like nothing.

I mentioned Path of Exile and their prices. Good friend of mine did bought the 10,000$ Pack.
He had the opportunity to work with the devs directly in making a unique monster for the game based in his ideas in exchange…

My point is, buying a few Mercs here and there is simply not enough. Just developing 1 “simple” thing as that costs several thousand of $.

(triteCherry) #15

I wouldn’t put obsidian but a different kind of card. Obsidian can be used in other different promotions, big update “themes” should be recognized (like the CW cards) seperately. Also no RNG, if I buy a founder patch theme pack for x amount of dollars I don’t want Nexon or SD trying to **** me over to gain an extra buck with RNG, otherwise I just won’t buy. Even elite cases, just from spite.

(Rjsto) #16

Nnaaaah. I mean, sure, in a way, if they want to reward people who have helped them develop the game by giving them money, but not like this. Eventually it would be cool if you could buy some cosmetics with real dosh, but not the idea you can just as a new player buy stuff old players have worked for

(Faraleth) #17

[quote=“derpypenguinz19;117598”]So basically CW cards (update themed), but locked behind a paywall?

No.[/quote]

@derpypenguinz19 I just want to point out one small thing… I can’t think of any other game off the top of my head that allows both free and paying players to acquire character skins. Cosmetics like this are normally 100% paid for with real money, maybe with the exception of a few promotional or reward ones - so in this regard, I would argue SD actually do it much better than a lot of other games with “skins”. The only problem is the prices and RNG of the skins themselves… >.<

(almondFlower) #18

@triteCherry Obsidian was just used as an example. The idea is to give something unique who decides to purchase said packs. I like your idea :slight_smile:

(Jostabeere) #19

No. Everyone needs a chance on getting everything special. And a luck-based model is the most fair thing for everyone.
CW-event did it right. If people didn’t drop a CW case, it’s only a bad luck. If it gonna be a payment, wall, the reason for people to leave gonna be corporate-greed and not bad luck.

(DMaster2) #20

[quote=“almondFlower;117979”]
Strange, but donations are not enough to keep something going[/quote]
Except that’s not the point. The point is that isn’t true what you said, that people give money “for nothing”. If they enjoy something they will support it and that’s a good thing. That said SD could do something to incentive people spending, because this rng bs that we have now don’t really help.