Will the PDP ever get nerfed?

(frostyvampire) #1

I will keep complaining about it until it gets nerfed so it can no longer 1 shot.
I decided to give PDP a try and played a few games with it. Gosh it was so ridiculously easy to get kills with it.
It wasn’t because the enemy team was bad or because I’m good, it’s simply because the weapon is overpowered. With the SNITCH debuff I just 1 shot everyone except Fraggers and even without the debuff it was so easy to get a headshot + bodyshot combo (on mercs with over 100hp).

If I record a video proving how ridiculous it is will SD listen and finally nerf this gun? There are so many things that need a rebalance (Proxy, Nader, Redeye, shotguns, Phantom, PDP, Rhino and I wish I could stop here but there are more).
Splash Damage please, take a look at the stats. Look which weapon/merc is used the most. Look which one has the highest damage, look at all the stats and nerf/buff stuff accordingly.
For example: Phantom is never picked in competitive, so buff him. Aura is mandatory in every competitive game so nerf her, PDP is superior to other snipers so nerf it.

Please SD don’t throw your game, it has a potential on being big but not with the bad balance.
Look at Overwatch, remember when Genji was insanely overpowered and he was picked every game? So Blizzard nerfed him and explained in one of their videos is that even if every hero was perfectly balanced, the community would create a meta and some heroes wouldn’t be used as often so they will have to buff the heroes that are not used and/or nerf the ones that are always used. Dirty Bomb should do the same

(BananaSlug) #2

and for some reason people use gr red eye in cups, not pdp

(Dawnlazy) #3

Yeah bruh the meta is favoring Grandeur and bolt-actions over PDP at the moment.

(GatoCommodore) #4

“its so easy to kill with PDP! you just hover the dot and fire!”

like…
every gun in dirty bomb…

pls record a video you vs high levels with PDP.

you vs scrubs will just get ignored.

(frostyvampire) #5

@BananaSlug
Well the PDP brings shame and competitive players wanna show their skill and not make people laugh at them “haha auto noob” :tongue:

I myself prefer bolt action too, but when I tried PDP I noticed how easy it was to get kills. I didn’t try to aim that much because I know missing won’t punish me so getting headshots was easy.

@sweetColumn
I’ll try if it doesn’t kill my fps (potato PC here). I’ll try to find a min level 20 server and record a full match of me using PDP Aimee only tomorrow. But I make no promises because it won’t work if I get under 50 fps

(GatoCommodore) #6

[quote=“FrostyVampire;c-217244”]@BananaSlug
Well the PDP brings shame and competitive players wanna show their skill and not make people laugh at them “haha auto noob” :tongue:
[/quote]

definetly not because Grandeur is easier weapon.

(BananaSlug) #7

Well the PDP brings shame and competitive players wanna show their skill and not make people laugh at them “haha auto noob”

lol, ye you know the truth, that would explain why we dont use shotguns on cups

(GatoCommodore) #8

Victory wipes away dishonor…

(frostyvampire) #9

[quote=“BananaSlug;c-217246”]Well the PDP brings shame and competitive players wanna show their skill and not make people laugh at them “haha auto noob”

lol, ye you know the truth, that would explain why we dont use shotguns on cups[/quote]
@BananaSlug

Shotguns? You mean sniper rifles like MoA and Remburg?

(BananaSlug) #10

min20 is not a place for high level play, its just pub with more salt, show us how you carry 5v5 scrim/pug

(IAmYourDad) #11

Pub vassili’s are useless enough.
Don’t take away their only crutch

(frostyvampire) #12

@IAmYourDad
Pub Vassilis don’t use PDP. They mostly stick to FEL-IX lead card or default MoA

It’s the Redeyes that give me cancer

(GatoCommodore) #13

[quote=“FrostyVampire;c-217319”]@IAmYourDad
Pub Vassilis don’t use PDP. They mostly stick to FEL-IX lead card or default MoA

It’s the Redeyes that give me cancer[/quote]

not blasting the smoke from the corner

youre playing it wrong

(IAmYourDad) #14

[quote=“FrostyVampire;c-217319”]@IAmYourDad
Pub Vassilis don’t use PDP. They mostly stick to FEL-IX lead card or default MoA

It’s the Redeyes that give me cancer[/quote]

That’s true. Pubbers have an insane obsession to Felix for some reason. Still, i tell struggling snipers to pick PDP if they are determined to snipe always.

(frostyvampire) #15

@sweetColumn
I’m sorry I didn’t know that Aimee, Vassili, Sparks, Phoenix and Thunder have explosives that can remove smokes.
I don’t play Fragger, Nader or any explosive merc. The only 3 explosive mercs I play are Proxy for pubs, Skyhammer for Chapel attack and Arty for Chapel/Bridge defense.

As Proxy I need to push to get rid of the smoke so I’ll die if I try to do it
As Skyhammer it’s stupid to waste an airstrike for this
As Arty I do it but I only play him on 2 maps so…

(GatoCommodore) #16

[quote=“FrostyVampire;c-217337”]@sweetColumn
I’m sorry I didn’t know that Aimee, Vassili, Sparks, Phoenix and Thunder have explosives that can remove smokes.
I don’t play Fragger, Nader or any explosive merc. The only 3 explosive mercs I play are Proxy for pubs, Skyhammer for Chapel attack and Arty for Chapel/Bridge defense.

As Proxy I need to push to get rid of the smoke so I’ll die if I try to do it
As Skyhammer it’s stupid to waste an airstrike for this
As Arty I do it but I only play him on 2 maps so…[/quote]

so you have a problem with Red Eye but rant about PDP…

PDP is perfectly fine.

do you know that there are spotting mechanics in the game for aimee and vasilli?

why would medics be head to head with a red eye?

and do you know red eye can still get blinded with concussion grenade inside his smoke and IR vision?

also how goes your vid?

(watsyurdeal) #17

But that’s the whole point of the gun, it lacks hipfire for being able to one shot lighter mercs.

If anything the Grandeur should be nerfed so it no longer 1 shots Aura and Sparks to the head, and in exchange is made more accurate by reducing the max spread and increasing the min spread so the gun is generally more accurate. If you want me to use a visual…

The max cone of fire for the Grandeur should be about 8 m, meaning the gun is accurate enough to get headshots with up to 8 m, firing as fast as possible with max spread.

So in other words just confirmation bias and no evidence? Splash Damage HAS the stats, they have the numbers as they have demonstrated multiple times yet here we are in it’s current state, what does that tell you?

[quote=“FrostyVampire;d-33859”]
Please SD don’t throw your game, it has a potential on being big but not with the bad balance.
Look at Overwatch, remember when Genji was insanely overpowered and he was picked every game? So Blizzard nerfed him and explained in one of their videos is that even if every hero was perfectly balanced, the community would create a meta and some heroes wouldn’t be used as often so they will have to buff the heroes that are not used and/or nerf the ones that are always used. Dirty Bomb should do the same[/quote]

I seriously doubt one single weapon is the reason the game is going to be broken, if that were the case we wouldn’t be where we are now, where we have a decently sized community with no competition. And the lack of competition is due to Splash Damage focusing more on pubs, and not enough on Ranked, it has little to do with gun balance.

Also, Genji was not op imo, people who played Overwatch generally just suck.

(GatoCommodore) #18

genji was pretty based but hes not as OP
im pretty kekked when i saw they nerfed him because memes

the memes created problem that doesnt existed in the first place.

(watsyurdeal) #19

[quote=“sweetColumn;c-218214”]genji was pretty based but hes not as OP
im pretty kekked when i saw they nerfed him because memes

the memes created problem that doesnt existed in the first place.[/quote]

That could be said about Overwatch in general

If you look at how they balance their heroes, it’s as if they do not want anyone with an infinite or insanely high skill ceiling, cause then that means good people DOMINATE with them. Like McCree for example…I never had so much before they nerfed his left click AGAIN by reducing it’s range and dropoff. To me, there’s just no point. I’d rather play TF2 Ambassador Spy.

They’re basically forcing everyone to be on the same level, regardless of skill.

(GatoCommodore) #20

[quote=“Watsyurdeal;c-218215”][quote=“sweetColumn;c-218214”]genji was pretty based but hes not as OP
im pretty kekked when i saw they nerfed him because memes

the memes created problem that doesnt existed in the first place.[/quote]

That could be said about Overwatch in general

If you look at how they balance their heroes, it’s as if they do not want anyone with an infinite or insanely high skill ceiling, cause then that means good people DOMINATE with them. Like McCree for example…I never had so much before they nerfed his left click AGAIN by reducing it’s range and dropoff. To me, there’s just no point. I’d rather play TF2 Ambassador Spy.

They’re basically forcing everyone to be on the same level, regardless of skill.[/quote]

thats equality fer you
i dont support equality, but i support adaptation.

make everything high skill ceilling so they can do things freely
give freedom of playstyle like dirty bomb instead of confine characters to certain playstyle because people cant adapt