Why do we still have "Win X Competitive Mission(s)"

(Whoisthis) #1

Over and over people have said this is a terrible idea. A few times Splash Damage even said it themselves. WHY IS IT STILL IN THE MISSION ROTATION?

(Amerika) #2

Yup. Can’t say I am a fan either. It should simply be win X games if they want a “win” mission and not care if it’s Objective, Stopwatch, Execution or MM.

(Whoisthis) #3

I notice it went away for awhile and now it came back. I wonder if they are trying to force people back to competitive now that anti-cheat is implemented. I dislike the competitive format so I avoid it like the plague.

(Ctrix) #4

That’s kinda your personal problem. I think the mission is good because it makes people try out competitive seriously. You need the pugs to support decent matchmaking.

(Whoisthis) #5

The problem with competitive games is that I rarely find them to be competitive. Maybe it’s because I’m ranked low, probably because I’m primarily a healer/reviver. Yes my KD ratio sucks, I don’t have time to be killing people while running around reviving people. Would I probably be willing get killed reviving a Skyhammer on Chapel so he can use his grenade to stop the EV? Yes I would. That’s why competitive really isn’t fair to mainline healers. On the other hand, try getting revived or even healed (Healing station? Got no time for that!) by “Combat Aura”. In objective I’m usually on a winning team, in competitive…not so much. Someone needs to take that shotgun away from the Auras so they figure out what the other buttons are for.

(JesseKomm) #6

Whenever a Win X Competitive Matches mission pops up I will immediately cancel it, there is no way I’m going to win one because… well I’m not that lucky. There are only two outcomes when I play competitive: either I get a team of beginners or my enemy is the better half of Seal Team 6 on vacation.

Once went up against a team of 5 professional Bushwhackers defending on Underground, it was impossible to play because they all had perfect turret placement and pin point accuracy on their SMGs. It was basically a 10vs5 due to this, by the end of the round my whole team gave up except myself and my friend. I don’t care how bad it gets, I don’t back down from a fight, but that is the gist of my competitive experience.

(Aazhyd) #7

I always skip this mission.

(Fap Fap Master) #8

Ah yes, its good because it attracts the wrong people into comp, right.

(Jostabeere) #9

Ah yes, its good because it attracts the wrong people into comp, right.
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And so you’re someone important to say who is wrong for competitive?

(Gi.Am) #10

Except they had this, people complained righly so that the win X missions in Pubs led to stacked teams.
So they put the win X mission in the only place where teams can’t be stacked (outside of premades) and thats competive. Considering that competive is the mode that wants you to take the game a bit more serious, I think a winning condition mission is fair.

(bwort110) #11

to be honest, but i think u go wrong. Dont understand ur problem with comp. Who cares about a K/D in a comp? Who cares about XP in comp? No one, just winning the game, nothing else. I started as a really bad player in comp. After 80 Hours i am getting better and better. I would like to see healers like u in comp. Btw, not many shotguns hanging around in comp i think. With my proxy i never use a shotgun.
The chance of getting a real great game in comp is much bigger than in the pubs. Really close games, where seconds do the different in stopwatch. Thats why i play this game.
Try it.

(D'@athi) #12

The play one or two matches in competetive missions imo are ok, still they usually take longer to finish than most other missions giving the same amount of credits, but you can do other missions in this time, so ok.
But winning one match? Sorry, too much of a gamble, when even some people with Gold3+ seem to be new at some maps and running around on the opposite site of the map not caring about the objectives.
So “tryharding” to win with people not caring and themselves probably only got a “play-mission” wanting to lose fast? Nah, won’t work for me anymore.

(bwort110) #13

[quote=“D’@athi;70246”]The play one or two matches in competetive missions imo are ok, still they usually take longer to finish than most other missions giving the same amount of credits, but you can do other missions in this time, so ok.
But winning one match? Sorry, too much of a gamble, when even some people with Gold3+ seem to be new at some maps and running around on the opposite site of the map not caring about the objectives.
So “tryharding” to win with people not caring and themselves probably only got a “play-mission” wanting to lose fast? Nah, won’t work for me anymore.[/quote]

first, i am not a friend of this comp missions. But its funny to hear that every time the “other” fail, never urself. Hard to believe that the gold 3 + guys in ur match failed so hard. Perhaps the other team was just better? People never think about this, always “noob team”. Mostly they are noobs also or the only noob in the team. Sometimes teams are better and mostly the better team wins. But if u complayin so hard about comp matches, how can u have fun at pub matches?

(D'@athi) #14

By either a working fun teamplay, even if you lose, or not having to care myself if my team gives (/&(/& about the game, because on pub matches there is no mission telling me to win.
But trying to win with no team-/play availible, because the mission says so, else wasting your time, that’s the nogo.
What, by the way, is quite exactly the point of my post above. But you got this now, right?

(Fap Fap Master) #15

Ah yes, its good because it attracts the wrong people into comp, right.
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And so you’re someone important to say who is wrong for competitive?
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Comp is where someone will come to compete, it wheres someone will try their best to win, Comp isn’t a place where you just join JUST For the credits.

(misspo) #16

Mad? go play competitive soldier! MM work fine now (no more joining bug)

(Ctrix) #17

You won’t rank up in LoL either if you only play support. Go carry, rank up, then play healer.

Ah yes, its good because it attracts the wrong people into comp, right.
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And so you’re someone important to say who is wrong for competitive?
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Comp is where someone will come to compete, it wheres someone will try their best to win, Comp isn’t a place where you just join JUST For the credits.
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Except the mission is literally to win a match. So your argument makes little sense.

(Whoisthis) #18

You won’t rank up in LoL either if you only play support. Go carry, rank up, then play healer.
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And there is the problem. I’m not a aimbot meatsack like a lot of these people who have 97/5 KDs. The easiest way to reach that is to have a good healer. I suppose I could switch from healer, but then there are no healers because 80% of the team doesn’t even have a healer in their rotation and wouldn’t use it if forced (“Healers are too weak, you can’t get 97/5 KD with a healer!”) I supposed if I were in a clan they would make some poor bastard at the bottom be healer, but I’m not in a clan. So this forces me to the shitty end of the competitive spectrum with “Jumpy Combat Auras” and “Headshot Jumpy Sparks” and their ilk. I think the best advice is up above: Delete.

(Ctrix) #19

You won’t rank up in LoL either if you only play support. Go carry, rank up, then play healer.
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And there is the problem. I’m not a aimbot meatsack like a lot of these people who have 97/5 KDs.
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Oh I’m sorry, I thought you were good. Clearly you’re just mad.

(Whoisthis) #20

You won’t rank up in LoL either if you only play support. Go carry, rank up, then play healer.
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And there is the problem. I’m not a aimbot meatsack like a lot of these people who have 97/5 KDs.
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Oh I’m sorry, I thought you were good. Clearly you’re just mad.
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I’m good at a role. I bet when forced to play a healer your “Jumpy Shotgun (WTF are these Q&E buttons?) Aura” is awesome. I play these for fun. A week ago I played against a guy who was awesome whose steam profile showed 182 hours of Dirty Bomb over the last two weeks. He had also won some tournament in Europe with like a 5K Euro prize.
182 hours, ****! If I gave up that many billable hours, I’d be driving a used Hyundai or something.
I have an hour a day to put into this tops, doing the best job I can for a team. Your statements are like the failures who have 20 skilled engineers all get together and start a company and start turning out awesome stuff just to go broke 3 months later because they hated accountants telling them to watch their budget. That’s why good accountants can make more than most engineers, they are the ones that when the engineers come up with something cool there is actually money to develop it.
In Dirty Bomb, it doesn’t do you any damn good to be awesome if you are laying on the ground with a little broken heart about you or if you are a Rhino with 1 health point. That’s why everybody bitches about the Rhino/Aura or Sparks Combo. Rhino by himself-EZ, Rhino with continually refilling health and continuous revives…Have fun with that shit.
Unfortunately the way that Dirty Bomb rewards Comp right now, instead of 4 Rhino/Aura Combos, it’s just 8 Rhinos.