IF THE GAME IS 5 MINUTES IN AND OFFENSE CAN’T GET OUT OF THEIR FRICKIN SPAWN, THERE SHOULD BE AN AUTOSHUFFLE. And no I’m not saying that’s the only reason there should be an autoshuffle, I’m saying that people are selfish and aren’t gonna shuffle themselves.
God dammit SD, you are testing my patience. How hard is it to put in an autoshuffle? I’m not saying “You guys are terrible developers, hire new devs, wah wah.” No I’m not saying that. I’m saying there are tiny little fixes that should be able to be done, that haven’t been. Like, why isn’t there a rule that there can’t be more than two of the same merc at the same time on a team? Why wouldn’t that be there?
I’m not gonna go into a bunch of details because I did that earlier and accidentally pressed cancel (cuz i r smurt).
Fix your fuckin’ game, or I’m done.
WHERE'S THE AUTOSHUFFLE
So you’re saying that people who do a good job at defending should have all their work undone because some people on the losing side can’t stand losing and want their hand held?
As always, matchmaking should have been the way forward, we’d probably have balanced matches by now instead of expecting public to be anything close to it.
[quote=“LifeupOmega;139818”]So you’re saying that people who do a good job at defending should have all their work undone because some people on the losing side can’t stand losing and want their hand held?
As always, matchmaking should have been the way forward, we’d probably have balanced matches by now instead of expecting public to be anything close to it.[/quote]
I’m saying if it’s either A. Clearly Unbalanced (whether it be by levels or whatever) or B. The amount of people is too uneven (not saying like if it’s a 5v6, I’m saying if it’s like a 7v4).
I have said it before, and I will say it again.
Matchmaking should have always been the standard for this game, not pubs.
Expecting anything fruitful to come out of pubs at this point is just wishful thinking.
Your post said none of that but okay. This is public, anything goes, balance just doesn’t exist in a game where you can freely drop in and out, where newcomers might be one of the best players in the game, where communication is zero and where class limits just won’t happen because, again, it’s public. It doesn’t matter. It’s always above optimal player count (5v5) and it will never be balanced.
There’s too many random factors. You can’t balance that without ruining or restricting the public game.
[quote=“LifeupOmega;139829”]Your post said none of that but okay. This is public, anything goes, balance just doesn’t exist in a game where you can freely drop in and out, where newcomers might be one of the best players in the game, where communication is zero and where class limits just won’t happen because, again, it’s public. It doesn’t matter. It’s always above optimal player count (5v5) and it will never be balanced.
There’s too many random factors. You can’t balance that without ruining or restricting the public game.[/quote]
Yeah I was kinda frustrated that I accidentally pressed cancel instead of post (my fault), so I was like “Screw it, just get my thoughts out.”
It is a nice thought to have a shuffle so the teams are completely balanced and nicely evened out and the mercs aren’t spammed. However that would get so much more annoying.
When I play, 70% of my games are balanced somewhat adequately and the other 30% are either turbo defence or attack; be it due to team size or due to skill level. It would be nice to have all the games balanced skill wise because being balanced player count wise doesn’t always help, but it wont work.
Think about this autoshuffle. What @LifeupOmega said is too important. [quote=“LifeupOmega;139829”]balance just doesn’t exist in a game where you can freely drop in and out,[/quote]
Lets say you join in a nice somewhat balanced 7 vs 7. People keep leaving and entering and swapping teams and what not. Having this autoshuffle swap people around as soon as someone joins or leaves will get extremely annoying. In fact, if normal vote shuffle can be extremely annoying, this would get infuriating. You’re winning, bam you’re losing, now you’re winning, you’re still winning, 1 minute left bam you’re losing, and then you’re winning, 5, 4, 3, 2 … bam you lost.
Just play competitive matches
Opened the game first time after a 4 day break cause of the bad balance.
Got into this:
http://puu.sh/mBh0y/d35b0da179.jpg
Alt+F4’d instantly. And SD keeps ignoring the goddamn mass of threads about balance. 10/10.
Whenever it get’s as unbalanced as that, I just stay on the team and keep spamming “Can someone swap please” adding a few capitals, maybe a few swear words into it every new line, and after about 4 spams someone does come on to our team. And in like 30 more seconds someone joins the game to our team too.
I don’t know if I’m just really lucky or something but I never find myself in these extreme situations I keep seeing on the forums. People saying 60% of games are ultra stomp, some saying half the games they’re spawn camped, like come on I’m pretty sure that’s so much exaggeration.
I’m really confused as to how everyone is having such terrible games and balance and I seem to be doing just fine.
People seem to expect public to be the epitome of pure ranked balance where each team is equal at every single moment. Once you stop caring about that and just play it gets more enjoyable. You can always drop the match anyway if it goes south, no obligation to stick around because your potatoes can’t beat their potatoes.
@LifeupOmega I play pubs and enjoy myself. I literally played comp like 4 times in my 80 or so hours. I hardly ever find these very unfair balanced matches cause I’m too busy playing the game to either notice or the balance error disappears due to new players joining like every 30 seconds. I think people are just starting to whine about losing so they keep talking about a lack of balance when it’s all bullshit
People seem to expect public to be the epitome of pure ranked balance where each team is equal at every single moment. Once you stop caring about that and just play it gets more enjoyable. You can always drop the match anyway if it goes south, no obligation to stick around because your potatoes can’t beat their potatoes.[/quote]
For me I don’t care if a team is better than the team I’m playing with. That can happen. However if it’s 4v6 or worse. I would say that there’s an inbalance. Usually (in my experience) when you ask someone from the other team to join your team (to make the game more balanced), you’ll get reactions like. “Nah… I just want to win” or “Stop complaining!”.
This attitude of some players can really irritate me. I will be the last one to complain about levels or skill difference in a game but when your team has 2 or more people less than the enemy team then I call it unbalanced.
That’s how I see it 
I will generally switch teams because there is no real disadvantage to doing so. I don’t lose accrued point, and extending the match actually garners more credits and points. There really isn’t a reason to not switch teams to even it out.
That being said, there is definetly not enough communicating of that exact point to the playerbase.
[quote=“Jostabeere;139979”]Opened the game first time after a 4 day break cause of the bad balance.
Got into this:
http://puu.sh/mBh0y/d35b0da179.jpg
Alt+F4’d instantly. And SD keeps ignoring the goddamn mass of threads about balance. 10/10.[/quote]
Lol. Your fault for playing stopwatch instead of objective. Not saying that objective don’t have problems, but it’s miles better in terms of team balance.
[quote=“Jostabeere;139979”]Opened the game first time after a 4 day break cause of the bad balance.
Got into this:
http://puu.sh/mBh0y/d35b0da179.jpg
Alt+F4’d instantly. And SD keeps ignoring the goddamn mass of threads about balance. 10/10.[/quote]
None of the levels on the enemy team indicated that you were going to lose that. Even if you are outnumbered, if that level 51 was any good, he would have balanced that out a bit. I would have stayed in that game.
@Jostabeere honestly if you asked someone I’m pretty sure at least one of them would swap and after about 30 sec to a minute someone else would have joined. It wont stay 6 vs 3 for 15 minutes. It wont even stay that for a wave
They did not.
@N8o The game was only like 5 minutes left when I joined. They all had far more points than the lvl 51
They did not.
@N8o The game was only like 5 minutes left when I joined. They all had far more points than the lvl 51[/quote]
Ah, bummer. That’s kinda sad. Not an impossible game to turn around, but I get why you left.
I have nothing against a lose when I join, if it’s actually somehow nice. But this shit, no. Getting spawnkilled by 6 people for 5 minutes? Hell naw.
I played in an OBJ game that started out 4v1 with me alone on defense for the first few minutes the other night and won (the server filled up by the end of the game). IT’S POSSIBLE IF YOU BELIEVE!!!
But yes, I personally wouldn’t mind seeing an auto-shuffle in place that will shuffle teams after 30 seconds or announce to the players that it will shuffle if their is an imbalance of 2 players or more prompting somebody to voluntarily switch. Well, not a shuffle but simply grab a person from the other team based on skill rating and put them on the opposite team to attempt to even things out. That would also keep most people on the same side as well making it all way less annoying than a typical shuffle.