Where is everybody?

(Hundopercent) #101

[QUOTE=spookify;475928]Shotgun takes 1 to 2 shots to kill just like COD. Sniper HS is just like COD. Which Im all for 1 hs sniper kills but its way to easy right now. Shotguns should be like the rndae in ET still 3 headshots and same fire rate. Auto shotgun.

COD actually feels a lot better atm…

Its is also like COD in spam kills… Low skill no aim… Its the first person to see the enemy and boom dead. Medic is useless…[/QUOTE]

Shotgun is one shot within 6 yards center mass to head area. Anything farther than that and its 2 to 4 shots. Positioning matters in FPS’s. If you’re in a tight hallway, expect a shotgun to be very affective. Just like if you’re long range, expect a sniper/AR to effective.

Snipers again are viable only in certain areas. If it took 2HS, it would be worthless because every other weapon would out perform it and be more efficient. If sniping HS was so easy, everyone would do it.

I would hope COD feels better its on its like 10th installment.

Low skill, no aim? XT is about half the hitbox of ET and more spread. What skill was there in ET when you m_pitch 0 and rape the dome?

Honestly, it sounds like you damn near never play the game and just sit back and speculate on how this is not ET2. In addition, when you do play you only go AR and want to dominate every aspect without trying. Sorry, but I disagree, it isnt like COD, it doesnt need prone, and it does require skill to 4 dink. Most games, if you got shot in the back you lose. In XT you can respond.

Lastly, you complain about spam but advocated they add the grenade launching rifle. Wtf, quit complaining to complain and play the game.

(Nail) #102

I liked the shotgun I used last, short to mid range 2 BS = kill

(BioSnark) #103

This is the most obvious compromise. It should really happen before beta, too.

(acutepuppy) #104

I’m really missing voice chat, especially with the place holder VSAY, the lack of minimap, and active spotting.

(BomBaKlaK) #105

Maybe i’m the only one but I don’t have any lack about the minimap, and active spotting is a cover ops ability.

(Glottis-3D) #106

yep, got used to the absence of minimap

(Mustang) #107

I really like the mini-map removal.

There was mention that it may make a return to a limbo menu or hold/toggle button, although personally I’d rather this didn’t happen.

Regarding VSAY placeholders, hell yes!

(spookify) #108

[QUOTE=strychzilla;475934]Shotgun is one shot within 6 yards center mass to head area. Anything farther than that and its 2 to 4 shots. Positioning matters in FPS’s. If you’re in a tight hallway, expect a shotgun to be very affective. Just like if you’re long range, expect a sniper/AR to effective.

Snipers again are viable only in certain areas. If it took 2HS, it would be worthless because every other weapon would out perform it and be more efficient. If sniping HS was so easy, everyone would do it.

I would hope COD feels better its on its like 10th installment.

Low skill, no aim? XT is about half the hitbox of ET and more spread. What skill was there in ET when you m_pitch 0 and rape the dome?

Honestly, it sounds like you damn near never play the game and just sit back and speculate on how this is not ET2. In addition, when you do play you only go AR and want to dominate every aspect without trying. Sorry, but I disagree, it isnt like COD, it doesnt need prone, and it does require skill to 4 dink. Most games, if you got shot in the back you lose. In XT you can respond.

Lastly, you complain about spam but advocated they add the grenade launching rifle. Wtf, quit complaining to complain and play the game.[/QUOTE]

First off I only play Medic and I can crush FO’s and Solders. 1 v 1… However I can not even come close to killing a shotgunner or get close enough to a sniper to kill them or even poke them because the medic gun is so weak. Im sure the AR gun is fine I dont think I have ever really used it. ET was not a m_pitch 0 game unless you played on euro servers where the nerfed prone. ET’s movements, crouch, jump and prone are far superior to xT. You can actually make people miss in ET. COD even has prone and it worked like ET prone.

I am not complaining I am stating facts because there is no balance. If the game is released as is i will probably go shotgun because that is the most op class right now other then sniper. I however do not want to play the game because I like playing Medic and there’s know point to it right now.

It is also not like we are playing SW either I can never find anyone playing on a SW server let along have /kills and waiting on the spawn timer… Game is a bunch of games mixed into one with none of the good parts of each game right now.

(spookify) #109

Didnt the ET sniper take 2 HS?

It doesnt matter the damage because it can all be balanced by ROF, hitbox size, recoil and other things. Its OP right now with the large HS hitbox IMO.

(spookify) #110

Im not going to play a game that isnt balanced. I tested it and then I was done. It was not fun to play so I am now giving my opinion. I am not going to keep playing something that isnt fun. Right now there is nothing that separates good from better to crap to amazing players…

(Smooth) #111

It obviously won’t be released as is.

The more people we have actively playing, the easier and more quickly we can balance the game.

Actual gameplay statistics are a lot more useful to us than forums posts saying things like:

“I only like to play medic and I think medic is weak so I won’t play anymore”.

That’s the equivalent of a Mage in an MMORPG jumping into the forums and saying “Mages are underpowered, buff Mages”. While these opinions are valid, there’s always going to be some small amount of bias there :slight_smile:

(BomBaKlaK) #112

[QUOTE=Smooth;476265]It obviously won’t be released as is.

The more people we have actively playing, the easier and more quickly we can balance the game.

Actual gameplay statistics are a lot more useful to us than forums posts saying things like:

“I only like to play medic and I think medic is weak so I won’t play anymore”.[/QUOTE]

I’m really curious about your stats, maybe you can share it with us

(Smooth) #113

Unfortunately showing the current data on which characters/weapons etc. are the most powerful will only further skew the picks of players and make the data less useful to us.

Please have a look at Anti’s post here to see the kind of things we’re analysing: http://forums.warchest.com/showthread.php/37708-Ragethread-about-the-current-state-of-XT?p=469819&viewfull=1#post469819

We do have more than that at our disposal and are constantly working towards gathering better data and analysing that data. However we can’t share everything with you guys.

(acutepuppy) #114

I’m not talking about detection methods, I mean more of a press-to-spot that’s universal. There is no effective way to relay enemy positions right now. I can imagine this all skewing statistics a bit. Same with anything that can give away your position rather than having it revealed by an ability or two.

(BomBaKlaK) #115

For me as it is it’s ok.

[QUOTE=Smooth;476268]Unfortunately showing the current data on which characters/weapons etc. are the most powerful will only further skew the picks of players and make the data less useful to us.

Please have a look at Anti’s post here to see the kind of things we’re analysing: http://forums.warchest.com/showthread.php/37708-Ragethread-about-the-current-state-of-XT?p=469819&viewfull=1#post469819

We do have more than that at our disposal and are constantly working towards gathering better data and analysing that data. However we can’t share everything with you guys.[/QUOTE]

Yeah I understand that can screw up the data. I hope all this data are really useful for you guys.
Waiting for the CB to see the next adjustments.

(attack) #116

nobody on teamspeak ,no testsrims…
where ar3e you guys?

(Rex) #117

[QUOTE=attack;476394]nobody on teamspeak ,no testsrims…
where ar3e you guys?[/QUOTE]

We always like to scrim. :wink:

(Kendle) #118

When I looked last night there were 2 scrims going on, no-one on the pub server. When I looked tonight there were 16/16 on UK casual and no-one on any others. I went and did something else. :slight_smile:

(Glottis-3D) #119

[QUOTE=Smooth;476268]Unfortunately showing the current data on which characters/weapons etc. are the most powerful will only further skew the picks of players and make the data less useful to us.

Please have a look at Anti’s post here to see the kind of things we’re analysing: http://forums.warchest.com/showthread.php/37708-Ragethread-about-the-current-state-of-XT?p=469819&viewfull=1#post469819

We do have more than that at our disposal and are constantly working towards gathering better data and analysing that data. However we can’t share everything with you guys.[/QUOTE]

Would you answer some of these please:
Do All maps have the same stats, or do for example more balanced maps(like waterloo) have more balanced use of chars?
Or do u sort your stats for defs and attackers.
Or do you take into account that on unbalanced maps stats can obviously to lead you in wrong directions…
Was, for example, removing of nades (or weakening of medics) based on stats or just on char-distinction process?

thnx! i only wrote most obvious things that just came up to my mind. this is all very interesting!

(attack) #120

[QUOTE=krokodealer;476404]Would you answer some of these please:
Do All maps have the same stats, or do for example more balanced maps(like waterloo) have more balanced use of chars?
Or do u sort your stats for defs and attackers.
Or do you take into account that on unbalanced maps stats can obviously to lead you in wrong directions…
Was, for example, removing of nades (or weakening of medics) based on stats or just on char-distinction process?

thnx! i only wrote most obvious things that just came up to my mind. this is all very interesting![/QUOTE]
btw stuoid question.how do you know who is soldier one and soldier2…