Weapon Stats (& rate of fire?)

(piece) #1

I’ve ben trying to find out all the nubers for the various weapons.

I’ve dug up a simple list of damages at http://www.game-foundation.com/esports/et_weapons.html and another, also with ammo payout info, and class/weapon info at http://img4.photobucket.com/albums/0803/fuelcut/61cdd338.jpg. Some of the numbers there are contradictory: the MG42 apparently does 18 or 20 damage. A couple of pages on spread, one is at http://hallelujah.wolfenstein.ru/rtcw/et/et_spreads.htm.

One thing I have not come up with is Rate of Fire. Anyone have any numbers for them? I mean, if the FG42 does 15 to the body, and the Thompson does 18 to the body, then the Thompson is better. But if the FG42 were to fire, say, twice as fast, then it would be more deadly.

(Cross posting at enemy-territory.4players.de forums.)
Why do I care? I don’t know, I’m just that bored. :expressionless:

(Cerebrate) #2

Check out this diagram from RTCW 4 Newbies. I think it’s pretty accurate.

(bubba g) #3

Hi there,

I don’t think the rate fire is any different, but the difference between the fg42 and thompson is although the thompson does more damage, it is less accurate.

One of my mates always changes to the fg42 if possible when playing allies for the higher accuracy

(pgh) #4

Oh great… another Scot… :banana:

(TFate) #5

I thought that the FG42 had a faster fire rate (but not doubled, of course) and did more damage, but had a disadvantage in the smaller clip of ammo it holds, and that the Tommy was more accurate and had a larger clip. That means that if two people were in a duel where both had the same accuracy, the FG42 would win, but if the guy with the FG42 missed a few times and had to reload, the Tommy would win.

EDIT: Well the FG42 does a bit less damage. I had no idea about that half-dmage/long-range thing. Hmm!

(pgh) #6

Gah, change that sif TFate… :smiley:

(Kendle) #7

Comparisons between Thompson and FG42 are irrelevant anyway, as only Coverts can chose FG42 and only Allied Meds, Engys and Field-Ops can chose Thompson.

Or am I missing the point, again? :???:

(BondyBoy007) #8

Yep I was wondering that too, prehaps he meant MP40 instead of FG42 - I’m confused :eek3:

(Cerebrate) #9

It’s somewhat annoying to see that so many people still think that the MP40 and Thompson are different from each other save from the sound.

(pgh) #10

Shrug I always seem to think and play as if the Mp40 is stronger unless your an Axis with Thomson… afaik, doesnt Thomson have a slightly higher a/c and Mp40 RoF? Or is that just me? At least, it feels like it…

(Kendle) #11

No. MP40 and Thompson are exactly and completely and totally the same in every respect apart from the sound they make (and their appearance obviously). Same rate-of-fire, same damage, same accuracy, etc.

However as an ex-RTCW player I always preferred the MP40 and still can’t help but prefer it in ET (though of course I only get one as Allies by picking one up from a dead Axis).

(pgh) #12

Thats what I get, a pref. But as I said, it just feels like its faster and I wasnt stating that RoF/Ac comment, notice the ?. I was asking a question based on what I thought…

(Cerebrate) #13

I prefer the Thompson because of it’s slightly “slower” sound; I can sort of feel each bullet as they leave the muzzle. As for the MP40, it’ just noise and I just can’t feel the rhythm, know what I’m sayin’?
:banana: :smiley:

(BondyBoy007) #14

Even though I’ve been told (and believe) that the MP40 and Thompson are exactly the same when it comes to RoF and accuracy/spread, psychologically I always prefer the Thompson as, to me, it feels better (and it sounds funny to boot)

(Rippin Kitten) #15

The fg42 is horribly inaccurate when firing from the hip. It only becomes an accuracy weapon when using the scope. The fg42 does have a fast rate of fire, making it a powerful weapon when engaging enemies at close range where accuracy is less of an issue. When going up against an opponent wielding the fg42, your best tactic is to create distance between you and your opponent and playing to your larger clip and better accuracy.

Both the mp40 and the Thompson feel the same to me, but I do notice a “difference” when it comes to the pistols. I have a better accuracy rate with the Colt compared to the Lugar even though they’re identical in the game.

RK

(Cerebrate) #16

Indeed. People should have marktime on, empty a whole clip on the wall and see how incredibly inaccurate it really is. It’s like firing a SMG while jumping.

BTW, I think some of you are mixing up the FG42 and MP40(?).

(ECE-666) #17

I guess he meant a allied with a thompson in a firefight with an axis covop (or the other way around) :banana:

(TFate) #18

My sif? :???:

The way I always thought it was is Tommy – More DMG, MP40 – More accuracy and faster fire rate. I actually prefer the Tommy in both RTCW and ET.

(TFate) #19

Yeah that’s what I mean… v583…

(SCDS_reyalP) #20

They were different in RTCW, but they are exactly the same in ET. According to bani, there is actually some difference in the pistols, prior to etpro 2.0.7