Two simple questions for SD.


(HandOfGod) #1

Now I am being serious here, not trolling. I just think your paying customers, the ones who feed you, clothe and shelter you, would like to know the answer, some may not care but plenty of others do.

Why is it that most any other developer can give an accurate release date for DLC and you guys can’t? What is REALLY going on? Your consumers DESERVE to know and they DESERVE better then what they are getting from you guys, which is next to nothing.


(Zanchile) #2

[QUOTE=HandOfGod;353761]Now I am being serious here, not trolling. I just think your paying customers, the ones who feed you, clothe and shelter you, would like to know the answer, some may not care but plenty of others do.

Why is it that most any other developer can give an accurate release date for DLC and you guys can’t? What is REALLY going on? Your consumers DESERVE to know and they DESERVE better then what they are getting from you guys, which is next to nothing.[/QUOTE]

there waiting for microsoft. its outta there hands right now.


(HandOfGod) #3

I dont believe that. As I stated above, there are too many other developers that announce exact release dates, over and over, for DLC. To say they, SD, have no knowledge would mean that they are one of the only devs that MS doesnt communicate with in regards to DLC. I dont believe that either. There is something else going on.


(coolstory) #4

Relax yourself, it’s just a dlc.


(HandOfGod) #5

No, its fixes for the broken game as well. I am relaxed so no need to tell me. You will know when Im not relaxed. I think people deserve answers to these 2 questions. Its pretty simple. Im not whinning or crying. I know that many people would like to know but no one will ask because they dont want to get attcked by FB’s. I will ask.


(Jimmy James) #6

Actually, I know the answer to this one but I was given explicit instructions not to tell you specifically and if I told anyone else it would just get back to you eventually.

-JJ


(HandOfGod) #7

I will ignore any irrelevant posts as I am posing this question to SD not their wannabe mouthpieces


(Jimmy James) #8

Uh, then why did you post on a weekend? That had to be a joke.

-JJ

EDIT: Also, it just occurred to me your statement is contradictory since it is in direct response to what you consider “irrelevant posts” which you claim to be ignoring.


(coolstory) #9

Did they say there was gonna be a patch with the dlc? Even if there’s a patch I wouldn’t put much hope into the game being “fixed”

Also about dlc, they said sometime in july I believe.


(thrill11) #10

I know exactly what you mean Hand, but I don’t think anyone here could answer you. Out of curiosity…what do you expect to find out? It’s not like they are plotting to do something outrageous…
Even if they told you…would you know what they meant? Would you try to comprehend it, or would you say you simply don"t believe it? They don’t have anything to hide is my point.


(MorsTua) #11

I am with you dude… i asked same thing and they closed my post…
Ignore all those buzzing flies


(thrill11) #12

[QUOTE=MorsTua;353820]I am with you dude… i asked same thing and they closed my post…
Ignore all those buzzing flies[/QUOTE]

Ignore these “buzzing flies” if you want, but either way you won’t get the answer that you want. You probably posted this knowing that you’d get nothing out of it anyway. Nuff’ said.


(morguen87) #13

If the game has taught us anything, we don’t want them rushing anything out the door. I want them to test, test, test, test, and test some more so when it’s released we aren’t guinea pigs again and have to wait on yet another patch just to correct it. So I’m fine waiting if the wait translates to getting a better quality dlc.

However, having the said that, keeping your community in the dark is the worst pr decision in the world. Even if it’s not a date, why not just say something like:

[ul]
[li]“We have these weapon attachments in the game and they’re working great![/li][li] We’re still tweaking some of these new abilities, etc, etc.”[/li][/ul]
The game is steadily losing players, so I can see why some want the DLC now, but if they rush it and it’s not any good then it’s not going to bring any players back anyway, at least for the long term. At the same time, SD shouldn’t take their sweet, sweet time because if we have to wait too long, there won’t be anyone still around to try the DLC. The more updates you give us however, the more patient the community becomes because at least we could see progress was being made.

If the product wasn’t so shoddy at launch, we wouldn’t need the dlc like we do now, it would just be a fun little add on. Right now we are desperately looking for anything that makes it feel like a real retail game. Right now it’s an Xbox Live Arcade game.

We need status updates, Splash Damage. One of the reasons why the community is so spiteful right now is because we feel like we’re being completely ignored.

BTW, that whole “waiting on Microsoft” thing is absolute BS. Every other company knows exactly what day their DLC is going to be out and advertises it. Splash Damage says it’s out of their hands and they have no idea. Haha apparently they can’t even guess the correct month?. Amateur hour. They’re either completely incompetent or they’re lying to us. Definitely a win/win for the community either way right???


(thrill11) #14

It really doesn’t matter if the DLC is high quality or not. The people that are gone are GONE. They probably traded it in already, and got a better game. People should stop expecting things to get so much better once this DLC comes out cuz it’s just going to lead to more disappointment. After this DLC, hardly anything will change. Those that are still here may be pleased, but those that left are GONE…probably playing Killzone, Frontline, Reach, or COD…upcoming games like Gears of War 3 and Armored Core 5 are gonna knock this game off the face of the Earth. TBH…SplashDamage picked the wrong time to come out with Brink. It would’ve been better in the past, but now…it’ll be short lived.


(morguen87) #15

If it was just DLC I’d agree with you, however this is from the blog post:

In tandem with the DLC, the teams at Splash Damage and Bethesda have been hard at work on the next major title update for Brink. The update is highlighted by online optimizations, AI enhancements, and weapon balance tweaks based on player feedback

Maybe I’m being naive, gullible, or just want something to hope for, but if the update effectively makes Brink a better game, I can see how it could bring some people back.


(BiigDaddyDellta) #16

they have until the end of next week then I’m just going to stop caring all together I have been on this game since day one and in this forum for a while now and it just seems like the reighns are a little “too” tight on these guys. and it’s bull****.


(thesuzukimethod) #17

cant speak for SD but I’ve said this before in one (or more?) of the innumerable (and becoming insufferable) “OMG, wherez teh DLC, FFFFUUUU” posts:

if i were a dev and had a game that had staggered a bit in terms of player/critical reception (as brink has, no doubt), and I had an update that was hoping to inject some life into the community through new maps/abilities and (as we all hope) some fixes to our own pet issues (weapon tweaks, AI, lobbies, etc.)…I would not want to put a specific date on the release till it was really really close. for two reasons. 1) what if something goes wrong and it doesn’t make the date.
but (MORE importantly)
2) why give competitors a chance to steal my thunder.

b/c
if i were a dev of a competitor game, and I knew the exact date of the release that was supposed to inject life into the game, and had the potential to steal away some of my playerbase, even if just for a week/weekend, why wouldnt i set up a double/triple XP weekend or something similar…simply to pull folks away from Brink. it would be strategic and smart to do so…


(morguen87) #18

[QUOTE=thesuzukimethod;353832]cant speak for SD but I’ve said this before in one (or more?) of the innumerable (and becoming insufferable) “OMG, wherez teh DLC, FFFFUUUU” posts:

if i were a dev and had a game that had staggered a bit in terms of player/critical reception (as brink has, no doubt), and I had an update that was hoping to inject some life into the community through new maps/abilities and (as we all hope) some fixes to our own pet issues (weapon tweaks, AI, lobbies, etc.)…I would not want to put a specific date on the release till it was really really close. for two reasons. 1) what if something goes wrong and it doesn’t make the date.
but (MORE importantly)
2) why give competitors a chance to steal my thunder.

b/c
if i were a dev of a competitor game, and I knew the exact date of the release that was supposed to inject life into the game, and had the potential to steal away some of my playerbase, even if just for a week/weekend, why wouldnt i set up a double/triple XP weekend or something similar…simply to pull folks away from Brink. it would be strategic and smart to do so…[/QUOTE]

That’s absolutely ridiculous. No one is worried about Brink. Period. Secondly, they tried to give us a date, it has just proven to be inaccurate. Thirdly, as I said earlier, even if they don’t give us a date why don’t they give us status updates? With this dwindling community I’d be posting status updates at least once a week. Hell, once a day if something noteworthy happened.

By not giving the community anything they’re only alienating their fan base.


(thesuzukimethod) #19

[QUOTE=morguen87;353834]That’s absolutely ridiculous. No one is worried about Brink. Period. Secondly, they tried to give us a date, it has just proven to be inaccurate. Thirdly, as I said earlier, even if they don’t give us a date why don’t they give us status updates? With this dwindling community I’d be posting status updates at least once a week. Hell, once a day if something noteworthy happened.

By not giving the community anything they’re only alienating their fan base.[/QUOTE]

first. I never said they were worried about Brink, this is about the big player crushing the little guy because they can (they have momentum they can take advantage of). If I ran the COD/BLops system, for instance, and I wanted to ensure that Brink got even less hype/play following the DLC release, I would host a double/triple XP weekend just for the hell of it b/c it would pull people away from playing Brink. It would be easy, and wouldn’t cost me ****.

second. i think you’re overestimating the degree to which people are waiting on the game and paying attention to when the DLC might drop. (i dont think your overestimating the degree to which people who read/post on this forum are paying attention by the way…i think we’d be thrilled if the larger casual gaming population cared 1/2 as much as the least-caring person on this forum)

finally. they have been somewhat active addressing questions/comments in the forums - which is something i def appreciate. But if i were them, the next thing i would say about this is “the DLC is out, here’s the list of changes/fixes associated with the patch, enjoy”. if someone owes me something on deadline (and SD doesnt owe us ****, and there is no deadline other than the arbitrary expectations of some vocal folks in the net), the last thing i want to hear is their statement on how it’s coming, or when they’re going to get it to me. just finish it.


(HandOfGod) #20

I dont think status updates are asking too much. The only reason I can see us not getting updates is, there is more going on that they dont want us to know than there is stuff they do want us to know.

On a side note, not everyone that has left the game has sold it. There are those that have merely shelved the game, to see if the update and dlc improve the game, before they decide to leave it for good. Life can stiil be brought back to this game but not in the fashion that SD is conducting themselves.