Trainyard

(Migraine) #1

I have a server running this new map:

213.235.23.219:27960

(sock) #2

Any clues to what this map is about? Where people can get it from? Any screenshots for people to check out first?

Sock
F33l the :moo:

(FrontRunner) #3

You can find information on this map and download it from our server

or download it from RTCWFiles.com

(Migraine) #4

I got it from http://www.rtcw.jolt.co.uk/?page=download.php&action=open&id=195

(sock) #5

The map is missing alot of components …

  • Tracemap is missing, mortars will not work without it.
  • No command posts
  • No health/ammo cabinets
  • Objective cameras are not setup
  • 4 objectives listed but no text descriptions
  • the Axis have 4 spawn areas and the Allies have just 1
  • No team doors (Could have been interesting)
  • Some doors show the tank symbol for destruction and can be destroyed by dynamite.

Sock
Feel the :moo:

(Black Death) #6

And the textures are boring :banana:

(narked) #7

Plus if you blow up the wagon containing the toxic gas, you’ve just released the gas, contaminating everyone in the area…

(Migraine) #8

well, im changing that server back to regular campaign mode. No bugger is using the thing :stuck_out_tongue:

One of my other servers running SillyCTF is full all the time though. Looks like the people have voted :slight_smile:

(Black Death) #9

Which server would that be?

(Migraine) #10

see this thread here:

http://www.splashdamage.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2519

(Slippery Jim) #11

Pretty harsh guys.

A new map, hoorah (even if it is a RTCW conversion)!

(sock) #12

I do not believe my comments are harsh or unconstructive. I simply highlighted some of the ET features that are missing. Some are critical to the working of certain weapons and will cause problems with players not understanding why things dont work correctly.

If people feel that constructive non personal comments are harsh then they need to realise that feedback is part of the process of map construction.

Sock
F33l the :moo:

(colic) #13

Wont here a bad word about Marko as he has done alot for the RTCW mapping community.

To the person who says the textures are boring. He intentionaly doesnt re do a load of textures simply to keep the file size down, which I certanly appreciated when I was on IDSN :slight_smile:

This is quoted from marko

glad you like it guys
I know it’s still very much like a RTCW map. This is because I wanted a quick map release in order to change the 6 maps we get all the time on servers. I’m now working on a more ET-like map with constructible stuff & many objectives…

Glad to see you’re on ET too Logan

Worst thing you can probably do to a mapper is criticise a mapper (Not meaning you sock as you are just pointing some things out) Look at Rummie who made some great maps, then after some stupid non constructive criticism he gave up as he did not see the point slaving over maps just to get abuse :frowning:

But did decide to come back and map for rtcw :slight_smile: > insert pimpage link http://www.planetwolfenstein.com/rummie/

(narked) #14

I don’t see anything non constructive in here. And if they can’t take the occasional bit of non-constructive along with the constructive, they shouldn’t release their stuff publicly, as it’s something you’re pretty much certain to get.

If the texturing is boring, then it’s boring, no matter how you defend it. And criticism of the map is not “bad words” against the mapper, it’s free advice on how to improve it.

(TheDigitalElph) #15

:bored:
We tried this map today for about 15 min, and then quit it for a different one. Huge map, good textures, but too easy to win/lose, and not much strategy involved. Seems like it would be a good ‘frag fest’ map…but the Axis can plant, and end the game too quickly.

I was expecting the Allies to have to rebuild the bridge…but no, Axis blows it, and that’s the end of that one.
:banghead:
Also, I heard comments that the many tunnels were confusing, and some led nowhere.

Tips to improve: Simpler design, more objectives (doors to blow, things to build, etc.), less Axis spawn points, more Allied spawn points (2 each?).

(mmortel) #16

The map was originally made for rtcw. I had played a beta version on it. So that’s thrue that’s not a real new ET map but that’s fun to play a new map I think. This map is like mp_depot on rtcw : both teams must attack and defend at the same time…Not very fun with a lot of noobs but a good idea.

(hummer) #17

I think it’s important for a LD, or any one in a creative field to have thick skin.

My fiancee is an interior designer… they have to go through “reviews” where their work is put on display and their work is criticized by peers, faculty, and people from industry. It seems harsh, but a better product comes from it. This is the same in in other art fields, even architecture.

Mappers should take peoples advice with a grain of salt. I agree with what Sock had to say… from what others have said, Marko’s map is a RTCW map, with few / no ET components. It would have been nice for Marko to take the extra time to fit the map to ET. Heck, anyone who has made a wolf map could convert to ET in a few days if they wanted too… I hope this doesnt happen often, since ET is a vastly different game in terms of gameplay.

BTW…Rummie didn’t really leave as I see it… he’s still making RTCW maps for that pay as you play place and working on the Degeneration mod, a RTCW mod. I think his “leaving” was more of his overall frustration with the RTCW community, who is extremely picky… probably just wanted to vent :slight_smile:

Also, one other piece of advice to upcoming mappers, is that you’re going to take a lot of criticism along the way. If you only hear something once, like “this cave sucks… change it,” don’t worry about it. If you hear it 50 times, you’d better do something about it :slight_smile:

(Marko) #18

hehe thanks a lot guys
I really appreciate your feedback. I know this map can be considered a bit as thrown up but I just wanted to have a change from the 6 cool maps that came with ET. There’s still a huge amount of things to add / change, especially those pointed out by Sock :slight_smile: I have to find out how to do that though because I’m still a pure NOOB at ET mapping hahahaha :bump:
Anyways, I already want to share the little experience I got from ET mapping & I’ll be completing my first 2 ET mapping tutorials today :slight_smile:

Thanks again for your time guys, especially Sock without whom I could not have got this working :clap:

(Azarael) #19

Marko:
Do you have any plans to port mk_dday2(or something like it) to ET?

(Marko) #20

hehe yeah something in that style but with a fat tank to escort :clap: