I’m very picky when it comes to which merc I buy because of my playstyle, which is fast and aggressive. Skyhammer who was the starter one is my main and STILL is my main. I do plan on buying three others once they come out, which is Stoker, Phoenix, and Phantom.
too much of a grind...
sinKrin
(sinKrin)
#22
I like the fact you can spend as much or as little as you like. Mixing money purchases with in-game credits or doing it purely on credits. I’ve played enough hours that I don’t mind throwing a few quid on a Bronze card or Merc that I want. The free rotation mercs also give you an option to try before you buy.
As far as I’m concerned Splash Damage have supplied me with a fun game and are constantly making improvements to it.
tenderLamb
(tenderLamb)
#23
You should easily get around 10k credits a day if you optimise your missions, and dude, that’s not grind it’s just playing game, having fun and getting your skill better. It’s not some lame MMORPG where you go to the woods and kill wild pigs for hours at time just to grind your way to lvl 5 XD
dynamicOctagon
(dynamicOctagon)
#24
Do i look like an autistic child who has all day to play a video game?
No, i am a working peasant (that’s how my gov would call in in their thoughts) getting ripped off by paying 40% taxes and 50% rent/lifesupport working 12 hours a day plus weekends so it’s not like i have all the day to “get that 10K” you so happely talk about.
Old_Man
(Old Man)
#25
Do i look like an autistic child who has all day to play a video game?
No, i am a working peasant (that’s how my gov would call in in their thoughts) getting ripped off by paying 40% taxes and 50% rent/lifesupport working 12 hours a day plus weekends so it’s not like i have all the day to “get that 10K” you so happely talk about.
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In that case you have two choices, take it slow and buy few mercs you want NOW (loadouts except weapon preferences don’t matter much) or simply find a different game.
Ghosthree3
(Ghosthree3)
#26
Why do people keep expecting anything in this world to be free? I don’t get it. No matter what it is, it’s going to cost you SOMETHING. Be that time or money.
RyuKaiser
(RyuKaiser)
#27
If they wanted it free, they’d say they want it free. The person just wants less of a grind to the game, and with that, I can pretty much agree. Personally, I wouldn’t mind it so much if they’d just half the exp needed for missions. Grinding that crap out for hours on end is boring as hell to me.
Anyway, here’s some Math for you fine folks.
50,000 / 12 = 4166.6. So About 4167 minutes.
4167 / 60 = 69.45 hours. Roughly, it’d take 10 days grinding for just 7 hours every day, even not doing missions/first wins.
That’s… actually not too bad of a grind, and given that characters are just a model and a skill slot (they have changable weapons, afterall), it’s not so bad. I’d literally drop $5 on a new character if they’d just drop the goddamn price already. I’m tired of people looking to League of legends saying “OMFG WE’RE TOTALLY GONNA USE THAT MODEL!”.
Yeah. That game has character balancing with over 100 champions to do, item tuning, lanes, etc. This game? I’mnot seeing much “counterplay”, there are no items (only loadout cards with premade loadouts), so naturally, most characters feel "set it and forget it).
I wonder how bad it’d hurt their model if they changed over to a system where you bought the game outright, giving you a permanent buff to credits, to the point it’d take only a few hours or so to grind out for a new merc? Or an “Infinity Pack”, like the God Pack from SMITE, granting you all the Gods/Mercs at a one time price?
crimsonYouth
(crimsonYouth)
#28
I dont think it is too much of a grind at all.
I try to complete a few missions a day and i have been able to unlock 2 mercs almost every week… i now have all the mercs unlocked and have saved up 50K for the next merc.
Old_Man
(Old Man)
#29
He has a point, which I made myself too a while back. If you bought only mercs to get access to “full” game content you would spend more than for a a AAA title like Battlefield 4 or Witcher 3. Someone is really gambling with its game chances here. The recent critical gamespot review points out the pricing as one of the main flows I actually agree with.
Ghosthree3
(Ghosthree3)
#30
Technically he wouldn’t be asking for it for free if he was asking for everything to be unlocked in 1 minute of play or 1c of real money. But that’s not the point. The point is he wants to do less to get more.
Nail
(Nail)
#31
most people complaining about the grind are non-team players, just want the frags, even if they play a support class it’s just for their own health/ammo, they don’t do missions, they don’t supply the team, they just rambo.
and then whine their kills should count more
Natemajor
(Natemajor)
#32
I haven’t spent any money except to buy an elite case and I have 3 characters. Started out playing tons of aura because she’s free. Got Arty. Decided I needed an OBJ so I grinded to Bushwhacker. Started disliking playing Aura so I grinded to get Sparks. Only have about 100 hours in the game 
reliableTortoise
(reliableTortoise)
#33
i had a post somewhere ill see if i can find it where i did a breakdown for @Ardez cauz there was another post who said the “grind” was too long… DB is a play to progress and you progress naturally as you progress naturally as you play… There are actually grind shooters out in the market looks at ubisoft and their GRP cashcow but out in DB u can get any character and loadout at any time if u have the CR to buy them… you don’t need to grind out the levels to purchase stuff like GRP which is utter lameness…
nevermind found it… health hazard warning wall of text
a full round of objective of defense which is about plus minus 20mins due to waiting i got anywhere from 170-350CR… so effectively taking the minimum in just over an hour i would get 170x3 which is 510CR
a new bronze card
17500/ 510 = 34.314hours rounding off to 35hours… So theoritically it would take 35hours in play discounting the first wins and the rotation mission system…
however taking into account i wont be playing 3 rounds in 60mins due to some issues such as joining a game halfway, having to wait for games to start, waiting in game for the round to load, factoring in warm up time, factoring in looking for servers, factoring in opening of cases, factoring in possible crafting time and of course the ever so prevalent afking to take a leak/grab a drink/ feed your pet/ alien invading your house and kidnapping your children etc etcm the CR to 1hr play time would be modified from 510CR minimum to 382.5CR after discounting missions (some poeple cant time the rotations to complete 2 cycles while basement zombies could possibly complete 5 of these daily so lets not factor rotation missions in) and without factoring in first wins
the new formula would be 17500/382.5 = 45.75 (rounding it off to 46hours)
so lets factor in daily play time for the average unmarried full time working adult which would get to play 2 hours a day and ur weekends are spent on other stuff other than video games 46/2 = 23days working days
now for a new merc
50000/382.5 = 130.71 (rounding it off to 131hours)
so lets factor in daily play time for the average unmarried full time working adult which would get to play 2 hours a day and ur weekends are spent on other stuff other than video games 131/2 = 50days working days
However we have to remember that the above mentioned hours DO NOT INCLUDE first wins and missions on rotations.
So now lets factor in the first wins of the day and assuming u have bad RNG and u get 500CR missions every time u will get 1500CR from missions and 1000CR from first wins now of
so taking these into account
a new bronze loadout card in days (2hrs of play time a day)
17500/(2500 + 382.5x2) = 5.4days rounding it off to 6days
6days x2 hours = 12hours of gameplay
a new merc (2hours of play time)
50000/(2500 + 382.5x2) = 15.32 days rounding it off to 16days
16days x 2hours = 32 hours of gameplay…
Conclusion a new bronze loadout based off what i got would mean 12hours of gameplay while a new merc would be 32hours of gameplay however this would heavily depend on time spent in a round and performance (from what i have heard on how CR is calculated)…
DISCLAIMER: this is a 1 sample size calculation and this may not reflect the actual time taken for you/your friend/your pet animal/whatever planet or galaxy you are from if u arent from earth to get either a bronze loadout or a new merc
Szakalot
(Szakalot)
#34
@reliableTortoise Can’t agree with your calculations:
- on average a mission will be 750cr, so thats 2250 per 3 hours cycle
- first win + first objective + first sw is 1500cr (and there will be 500cr more for first execution)
- say it takes you 90min to get all 3 missions completed (very conservative, unless you get waterboy 20k)
90min play:
- 90*12 = 1080cr
- 1500cr for first play etc.
- 2250cr for 3 missions
Roughly 5k credits for 90min play.
15 hours for 50k. Login every day, you get a merc in 10 days
Ghosthree3
(Ghosthree3)
#35
[quote=“Szakalot;34934”]reliableTortoise Can’t agree with your calculations:
- on average a mission will be 750cr, so thats 2250 per 3 hours cycle
- first win + first objective + first sw is 1500cr (and there will be 500cr more for first execution)
- say it takes you 90min to get all 3 missions completed (very conservative, unless you get waterboy 20k)
90min play:
- 90*12 = 1080cr
- 1500cr for first play etc.
- 2250cr for 3 missions
Roughly 5k credits for 90min play.
15 hours for 50k. Login every day, you get a merc in 10 days[/quote]
This really puts into perspective how easy credits really are to get. Most people that are interested in this game are going to do more than one set of missions a day anyway so it’s even better than that.
dynamicOctagon
(dynamicOctagon)
#36
I play a lot of F2P games, I spend money on those i want to. I’m not convinced with dirty bomb right now ,(As after the Infinite Crisis/Fifa World sinking ship left me a good sum of money being lost as a result and thus turned me carefull when spending money on F2P games…) Especially when they ask such insane high prices for a single character. Nexon may be the “best Free to play provider”. They’re also one of the most expensive ones…
I’m not against working my way up to unlock new characters or even the concept behind F2P. But atleast make it reasonable to do so… There is no use in letting players spend weeks to just EARN ONE character in a videogame… That’s insane, especially to the working class of the audiences playing them.
IF they droped the price of older characters to 3 euro’s a piece and the newer ones 5 euro’s. I would’ve lived with it and actually considered “supporting” once for the time being. But not now… And definatly when the game’s not out yet…
ThatRandomGuy
(ThatRandomGuy)
#37
I play a lot of F2P games, I spend money on those i want to. I’m not convinced with dirty bomb right now ,(As after the Infinite Crisis/Fifa World sinking ship left me a good sum of money being lost as a result and thus turned me carefull when spending money on F2P games…) Especially when they ask such insane high prices for a single character. Nexon may be the “best Free to play provider”. They’re also one of the most expensive ones…
I’m not against working my way up to unlock new characters or even the concept behind F2P. But atleast make it reasonable to do so… There is no use in letting players spend weeks to just EARN ONE character in a videogame… That’s insane, especially to the working class of the audiences playing them.
IF they droped the price of older characters to 3 euro’s a piece and the newer ones 5 euro’s. I would’ve lived with it and actually considered “supporting” once for the time being. But not now… And definatly when the game’s not out yet…
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spend weeks? I am on my 2nd week and i got 6 mercs and going to sparks soon… 32k now (wouldave got it already if i didnt trade stuff and buy bronze cards for double time perk)
reliableTortoise
(reliableTortoise)
#38
[quote=“Szakalot;34934”]@reliableTortoise Can’t agree with your calculations:
- on average a mission will be 750cr, so thats 2250 per 3 hours cycle
- first win + first objective + first sw is 1500cr (and there will be 500cr more for first execution)
- say it takes you 90min to get all 3 missions completed (very conservative, unless you get waterboy 20k)
90min play:
- 90*12 = 1080cr
- 1500cr for first play etc.
- 2250cr for 3 missions
Roughly 5k credits for 90min play.
15 hours for 50k. Login every day, you get a merc in 10 days
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the calculations for missions are taken into account one has bad RNG and only gets 500CR which is the min payout for all 3… also i am taking into account people do not play SW and as such the dailies are only accrued at 100 instead of 1500… calculations also take into account looking for servers, toilet breaks, coffee breaks, alien abductions and other random stuff which would inadvertently affect CR gain per hour…
dynamicOctagon
(dynamicOctagon)
#39
[quote=“peppyFarmer;35013”][
spend weeks? I am on my 2nd week and i got 6 mercs and going to sparks soon… 32k now (wouldave got it already if i didnt trade stuff and buy bronze cards for double time perk)
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[quote=“dynamicOctagon;34650”]
No, i am a working peasant (that’s how my gov would call in in their thoughts) getting ripped off by paying 40% taxes and 50% rent/lifesupport working 12 hours a day plus weekends[/quote]
Again, i’m not having all week to play videogames.
Szakalot
(Szakalot)
#40
[quote=“reliableTortoise;35014”][quote=“Szakalot;34934”]@reliableTortoise Can’t agree with your calculations:
- on average a mission will be 750cr, so thats 2250 per 3 hours cycle
- first win + first objective + first sw is 1500cr (and there will be 500cr more for first execution)
- say it takes you 90min to get all 3 missions completed (very conservative, unless you get waterboy 20k)
90min play:
- 90*12 = 1080cr
- 1500cr for first play etc.
- 2250cr for 3 missions
Roughly 5k credits for 90min play.
15 hours for 50k. Login every day, you get a merc in 10 days
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the calculations for missions are taken into account one has bad RNG and only gets 500CR which is the min payout for all 3… also i am taking into account people do not play SW and as such the dailies are only accrued at 100 instead of 1500… calculations also take into account looking for servers, toilet breaks, coffee breaks, alien abductions and other random stuff which would inadvertently affect CR gain per hour… [/quote]
why would you assume BAD RNG?
Surely AVERAGE RNG is more representative?
You will also play SW considering there are ‘play/win X SW games’.
All the breaks you speak off will decrease the 1k from the base fees, but will not influence finishing 3 missions in 90min of ‘sitting and playing DB’