Tired of the Hate

(tokamak) #81

It’s tactical in the same way RISK is tactical. And don’t ge me wrong, RISK is a fun metagame if applied to shooters. It’s about dividing your team into strategic places according to how the opponent set themselves up. It’s about not over or under committing on certain locations and trying to create a critical mass at certain points.

And that’s all down to spray and pray. It turns each player in a dice you roll for the battles of a continent. Brink’s strategy applies on the very largest scale. In ET this scale was valid, but if one player had a particularly good idea, then he could trump the risk metagame and topple the board. Brink doesn’t give those facilities to players so where in ET you may have been constantly looking to come crashing down on the opponent’s weak points, in Brink you are forced to trudge along clearly defined paths and roll the dice.

All this leads me to believe that SD never truly understood what made their games so sublime. A casual player could still mean something in ET, and even he could one day figure out a way to turn a match on it’s head, which is one of the most satisfying things you can experience in a game.

(asmo) #82

i’m hidding? if i have chance i would go to SD HQ and say this again to them directly but they already know the fact that many peoples who was very thrilled about Brink are extremly disappointed now. The place for Brink, in my oppinion, is in trash. I’m not lacking respect - i’m honest.

what is lack of respect:

a) SD your game is sh#$%#$ and you are sh$#%#$% !!!
b) SD your game is sh@#$@ but i still have fingers crossed for u guys, who knows what gem you will produce in future.

on this forum i keep the b) style. because if i’m a) style i wouldn’t be here. i thought that’s obvious ?

long story short: It’s so consolized. It’s so differend from what i saw in youtube clips before release, et cetera. They gave us beta on release, full of bugs. Bots fest. SDK. Tons of reasons.

You say they put long hard hours to create it, i call it trash because after trying hard to like this game i failed and i hate it. But they got paid for these long hard hours. I paid for trash-title so show me some respect and let me express what i have in heart instead of calling me disrespectfull-hidden-behind-keyboard coward.

Thanks ! :slight_smile:

(wolfnemesis75) #83

^ There are hundreds of other games you could be playing instead. Hot Tip. Go play or do something you do like. You aren’t gonna get anyone who likes it to do backflips and start running off the cliff like lemmings to your pie piping. Realize that not everyone likes Lasagna. And if you hate it, what’s the point of going down to Luigi’s Italian Restaurant and yelling at the patrons or the chef? :slight_smile:

(Nexolate) #84

Moral of the Day: If you hate it, it automatically makes it trash.
I’ll have to remember that one.

Regards,
Nexo

(asmo) #85

[QUOTE=Nexolate;370763]Moral of the Day: If you hate it, it automatically makes it trash.
I’ll have to remember that one.

Regards,
Nexo[/QUOTE]

no, i listed reasons why i hate it ! remember to read the whole post instead !

(zenstar) #86

If I read him right asmo is trying to say this:
He is here complaining about the game because he really does want to like it and he’s trying to make himself heard so that SD pay attention and either tweak Brink to be more like something he would like to play or so that their next title doesn’t dissapoint him the same way that Brink dissapointed him.

As long as he’s constructive in his feedback there is absolutely no reason for him to not do this. Brink can only get stronger with people telling SD what they thought was bad about the game. There is no reason to attack him for his opinion. I’m sure he does play games that he enjoys.

What he’s trying to get across is that he wants to enjoy Brink but doesn’t due to reasons I’m sure he’s stated. It’s pretty much the same with a lot of the people who have negative opinions here. Some are more emo and/or less constructive than others.

I say let them speak. But by the same token: If you’re going to speak make it constructive: this is a forum of discussion after all. No point in getting mired up in personal attacks amongst one another.

(Unfurl3dRelic) #87

You’d be surprised.
In fact - one of those people might just be you!

When you tell people you’re sorry to hear Brink is the most fun game in their library, you look foolish when you then say people hating on it wouldn’t visit this place.

(.Chris.) #88

[QUOTE=Unfurl3dRelic;370776]You’d be surprised.
In fact - one of those people might just be you!

When you tell people you’re sorry to hear Brink is the most fun game in their library, you look foolish when you then say people hating on it wouldn’t visit this place.[/QUOTE]

There is a difference between humor, hate and a dislike towards a game and it’s players.

(Nexolate) #89

Of course constructive criticism is fine as, like you said, it just helps the game grow. No it’s the people that just post needlessly rude comments like “this game is trash” that really get on my nerves. It’s like these people don’t even understand what the term means.

Oh I read your post alright, I just decided that your opinions weren’t worth commenting on at the time considering none of them even remotely justified the description you gave the game. Here are my responses with as much detail as I could care to muster.

F Button + Smaller Maps =/= Consolisation.
Looks the same as what I saw.
Wasn’t even close to beta.
There were only a few game-breaking bugs.
Bots are useful for when the servers aren’t very full.
SDKs are not mandatory, they are a bonus.

I’d be more respectful, but you have to show a bit of respect first.

Regards,
Nexo

(wolfnemesis75) #90

I like Brink because its Brink.
I don’t hate it because its not a re-skin or like<insert comfort-zone game here>
:slight_smile:

(DarkangelUK) #91

Not a re-skin or like a game you’ve never played so wouldn’t know anyway :slight_smile:

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I put it in braille for you and Stevie to read.

(thesuzukimethod) #92

[quote=darkangeluk;370810]not a re-skin or like a game you’ve never played so wouldn’t know anyway :slight_smile:

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I put it in braille for you and stevie to read.[/quote]

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(chamber666) #93

i got the game at launch and loved the **** out of it…i played at least 3 hrs every single day. i was optimistic through out the initial launch issues but still thought we had a solid game on our hands. since the last update before the DLC release, the one with the major weapon tweaks etc, i’m playing the game less and less and getting more fed up when i do. before these updates, in easily 70+ hours of gameplay brink crashed my ps3 MAYBE twice…now, i’m lucky to go more than 2 matches without a total system crash. lag is worse, teams are consistently lopsided which makes the game very boring, the weapon tweaks made are completely puzzling…you nerf pistols to the point of useless when light body types pretty much HAVE to depend on them?? the DLC…completely worthless, the maps don’t compare to the launch selection, weapon mods are RIDICULOUSLY AR biased (which didn’t need help to begin with) new abilities are essentially pointless aside from the UAV, which i see less and less used as the novelty wears off. PC customization additions are just sad, sadder than ‘sad punk’ and since the release my technical issues have exponentially increased. i wish it never happened, the game ceases to be fun anymore.

call me a hater, a naysayer, a poopybutt or whatever helps you sleep at night. this is just an honest opinion from someone who’s stuck it out from day one and just finally, reluctantly, cannot take anymore

(wolfnemesis75) #94

^UAV is a beast. And so is FRU. You could argue Pyro Mines are OP once you have 2 other mines! And napalm grenade is extremely effective. I use it to cause mass destruction. Labs is arguably the best map in the game now. And Founder’s Tower is cool too. UAV Breaks a chokepoints. Aquarium. Hide somewhere then send out the UAV to show enemy locations to teammates and then bomb the key player camping the choke point! Sad to hear about your technical issues. I have none of those. Xbox. :slight_smile:

(chamber666) #95

my biggest issue with the new abilities is they essentially turn the game into a cluster****…and not in a good way. issues we had before with map design problems, like infamous choke points, only become exaggerrated

(wolfnemesis75) #96

[QUOTE=chamber666;370847]my biggest issue with the new abilities is they essentially turn the game into a cluster****…and not in a good way. issues we had before with map design problems, like infamous choke points, only become exaggerrated[/QUOTE]For the guys I play with, the new abilities allow us to just Beast through the level even faster when attacking. :slight_smile:

(Jimmy James) #97

[QUOTE=asmo;370754]
what is lack of respect:

a) SD your game is sh#$%#$ and you are sh$#%#$% !!!
b) SD your game is sh@#$@ but i still have fingers crossed for u guys, who knows what gem you will produce in future.[/QUOTE]
a) Obvious hater.
b) Hater disguising themselves by posting condescending, facetious remarks.

I don’t really see any difference.

[QUOTE=asmo;370754]
You say they put long hard hours to create it, i call it trash because after trying hard to like this game i failed and i hate it. But they got paid for these long hard hours. I paid for trash-title so show me some respect and let me express what i have in heart instead of calling me disrespectfull-hidden-behind-keyboard coward.[/QUOTE]
Yikes dude, you have some serious personal issues to work out. Good luck with that.

-JJ

(thesuzukimethod) #98

@chamber666
re: ps3 crashes…i’ve tied most of my own crashes to accessing the XMB during cutscenes or the map selection vote/final tally/etc (a lot of times during cutscenes/endgame, we would try and invite friends to join us to fill in the teams, etc)

add in that when i’ve been host and crashed using XMB it doesnt migrate the game for everyone else, it just kicks everyone from the match

not sure if this is a new problem from a recent update, or just more prevalent as more and more people are accessing XMB as they are more familiar with the game, have more “brink friends” etc…but i have noticed more crashes…although i did crash a fair bit pre-patch as well (1x a week was about my average) I also think that more and more matches organized from friends lists means more and more far flung connections - and even with broadband all around, is a lot of network traffic, especially if the host is a little slow.

re: your other points…i disagree with some of your thoughts on the maps, but that’s just me - i’m a big ‘too each his/her own kinda guy’. although i do agree the 8v8 can get a little ridiculous on the smaller maps. my favorite mode to play is small teams with no bots, and there are a good group of folks who play on ps3 who regularly get these sorts of matches running. it helps with the lag, you dont have to fight with/against bots, FF is on so everyone is a bit more precise in their shooting, and the emphasis is a bit more on tactical control/pushes than simply an series of coordinated (or not) pushes every 2-3 minutes.

(asmo) #99

[QUOTE=Jimmy James;370857]a) Obvious hater.
b) Hater disguising themselves by posting condescending, facetious remarks.

I don’t really see any difference.

Yikes dude, you have some serious personal issues to work out. Good luck with that.

-JJ[/QUOTE]

i don’t understand why you claim that i have personal issues? can you tell me more about it ?
how did you came out with such conclusion? appreciate.

(chamber666) #100

this is fun for you?? i’m the type of person that, say on defense, would rather lay down at 1 min to go to let the attacking team complete the first objective and keep the match going than stuff the attack team at their spawn point…call me crazy but if a match is over too soon or a win comes too easy, i’m disappointed

suzuki…generally i don’t mess with the xmb at all. i’m content to wait for invites, use the ingame friends list (which is hit or miss) or just go free play. 75% of the crashes occur at loading screens but crashes during actual play do occur quite often. i’ve also had the problem of trying to join a game with the ‘joining session’ menu pops up to have it stall out and return to the menu, after this selecting the start match button becomes totally unresponsive…this also has only started since the update and dlc