This Video Really Sums Up The Pain of Using The Katana Due to the Melee Changes

(XavienX) #61

[quote=“Ottah;65713”]The only things i dislike about Phantom these days:
2. Not having the cool black and white striped skin ingame, like he was shown with. so much cooler then my cobalts :dizzy: go go SD :smiley: [/quote]

Yea…the should have that skin.

(TheOrangePhantome) #62

To be honest i’d be fine if u weren’t so slow when swinging. I’d love to see that skin as well btw.

(Vulcan) #63

Having that Skin would make having a Loadout above Bronze useless. Silver, Gold and Cobalt are basically just cosmetic advantages over anything.

(Amerika) #64

Do you even think this game will have a solid comp scene?
It won’t, no customization, muzzleflashes, complete random balance updates based on low skill players rather than higher ones; they are literally BEGGING pro players to go on other games… like how a lot have done since the phantom nerf update.
[/quote]

Customization is coming for a lot of stuff. The game not being competitive because of muzzleflash…did you seriously just say that? And Phantom has nothing to do with the current competitive state of the game and never did so trying to sound as if comp players are unhappy because Phantom got nerfed is a bit ridiculous don’t you think?

(GRUARRR) #65

I put this on reddit a few days ago. I copy it here to give some ideas:

"bla bla bla …

What about giving a second ability to Phantom? Something like:

Ability: Katana Cut.
Duration: 3 or 2 seconds.
Recharge: 6 or 8 seconds.
Effect: You have to be in “invisible” mode to use this ability.
When you activate it, during 3 or 2 seconds you lose your “invisibility” and you cannot activate it. Your movement speed increases to 470 or 450. Every hit with the katana can kill someone or you can hit with the katana faster.

Do you think they can give him something to use more the Katana being balanced?

This or giving him the ability to spot enemys as Vassili or Redeye can do? I would like to use more Phantom because I really like this merc and his personality and I would like him to do more teamwork.

…Bla bla bla"

(SupahNin10doh) #66

Alright LISTEN UP! PHANTOM DOESNT NEED ANY NEW ABILITIES OR ANYTHING!
Splash Damage just needs to remove the melee turn limit and increase the attack duration, but not as long as the original. Make it slightly longer, so you can atleast hit something that is moving faster than you are. That is all that needs to be fixed.

(Killerbee) #67

[quote=“SupahNin10doh;66202”]Alright LISTEN UP! PHANTOM DOESNT NEED ANY NEW ABILITIES OR ANYTHING!
Splash Damage just needs to remove the melee turn limit and increase the attack duration, but not as long as the original. Make it slightly longer, so you can atleast hit something that is moving faster than you are. That is all that needs to be fixed.[/quote]

Yes he does, meleeing is a horrible idea against good people. Even if they remove the turn limit it will not solve the problem of people seeing him coming half the map away and his inability to kill mercs above 100hp. Oh and the mercs he can 1 shot are all faster then him so have fun trying to melee them.

(XavienX) #68

[quote=“Killerbee;66317”][quote=“SupahNin10doh;66202”]Alright LISTEN UP! PHANTOM DOESNT NEED ANY NEW ABILITIES OR ANYTHING!
Splash Damage just needs to remove the melee turn limit and increase the attack duration, but not as long as the original. Make it slightly longer, so you can atleast hit something that is moving faster than you are. That is all that needs to be fixed.[/quote]

Yes he does, meleeing is a horrible idea against good people. Even if they remove the turn limit it will not solve the problem of people seeing him coming half the map away and his inability to kill mercs above 100hp. Oh and the mercs he can 1 shot are all faster then him so have fun trying to melee them.[/quote]

But not exactly a new ability, maybe some tweaks.

(K1X455) #69

The Katana has been shortened into a Tanto, and weighs as heavy as Thor’s Hammer

(XavienX) #70

The lunge attack has the same range as the primary swing attack.

(Grave_Knight) #71

The lunge attack has the same range as the primary swing attack.[/quote]
Which is funny. When you thrust with a sword you’re doing it for one of two reasons. Firstly, to penetrate through armor (easier to puncture steel than it is to try and cut it open) and, secondly, to gain more reach (when you cut you’re arms are bent so to generate velocity, but when you thrust you fully extend your arms to generate force).

(XavienX) #72

The lunge attack has the same range as the primary swing attack.[/quote]
Which is funny. When you thrust with a sword you’re doing it for one of two reasons. Firstly, to penetrate through armor (easier to puncture steel than it is to try and cut it open) and, secondly, to gain more reach (when you cut you’re arms are bent so to generate velocity, but when you thrust you fully extend your arms to generate force).[/quote]

Ironically, Phantom doesn’t even take a step, decreasing the range even more.

(Kaos88) #73

[quote=“Xavien;15811”]I do not own any copyrights to this video, I did not make this video, I do not take credit from it.

This video explains the pain of using the katana nowadays and how it’s almost pretty much useless in situations that it’s supposed to be useful.

All this tells me is slow down the Rate of slashing on Knifes too ( not the speed of slashing on talking before you can slash again )? Not buff the Katana.

(XavienX) #74

[quote=“Kaos88;76177”][quote=“Xavien;15811”]I do not own any copyrights to this video, I did not make this video, I do not take credit from it.

This video explains the pain of using the katana nowadays and how it’s almost pretty much useless in situations that it’s supposed to be useful.

All this tells me is slow down the Rate of slashing on Knifes too ( not the speed of slashing on talking before you can slash again )? Not buff the Katana.[/quote]

It’s about Phantom’s current effectiveness state.