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(stealth6) #81

[QUOTE=Gir;401241]I did tinker with the UI Code, not sure why Mod Coders not modify it much.

HD Main Menu :slight_smile:

now the thread is derailed[/QUOTE]

Well thread is kind of finished when the dutch server stopped their hack.

Anyway is there a way to hardcode the menu so no pk3 mods can change it? What .c files do you have to look at?


(Gir) #82

[QUOTE=stealth6;401244]Well thread is kind of finished when the dutch server stopped their hack.

Anyway is there a way to hardcode the menu so no pk3 mods can change it? What .c files do you have to look at?[/QUOTE]

If its mod specific, you could define all “Menu Files” within the Source (ui_mp_x86 ?), instead of in the PK3.


(Smurfer) #83

[QUOTE=Gir;401241]I did tinker with the UI Code, not sure why Mod Coders not modify it much.
[/QUOTE]

Because I’m a coder-noob without a clue who only got into it to make the grenade fly longer 'n stuff. :smiley:


(Dragonji) #84

Well, that’s just sad that the biggest clan, experienced with past actions from some members of T.C./ETc clan is now doing almost the same thing. Moreover, it’s not the best way to build liked and respected community.

FYI, I’m not against facade functionality (I run one for my server too) as far as it doesn’t fool people. I believe it wouldn’t be a hard task to code such a false facade, but what would be the point of it?


(Patriotqube) #85

I dont know who is abusing stuff and i really dont care.

Dont wanna point fingers at people

But loose the serverlist for 2.55 and problem will be solved in a matter of a few weeks


(Ruben0s) #86

Tbh the masterserverlist for 2.55 is way better atm. 2.60b has hundreds of fake servers which give me an error as shown on the picture. If I press reconnect I will get the same screen over and over again. I got this on a fresh install and on all the fake servers. As a noob I wouldn’t update to 2.60b :stuck_out_tongue:

From what I can remember F|A was one of the first clans that uses server facade. I personally don’t care if a server uses serverfacade if it’s running 2.55+. But F|A just dominates the masterserverlist with countless of fake servers with names that attract noobs. Is it good for W:ET? No. Is it good for F|A? Yes. This will also be the main reason F|A will never shut them down.


(Domagoj) #87

[QUOTE=Ruben0s;401259]

Tbh the masterserverlist for 2.55 is way better atm. 2.60b has hundreds of fake servers which give me an error as shown on the picture. If I press reconnect I will get the same screen over and over again. I got this on a fresh install and on all the fake servers. As a noob I wouldn’t update to 2.60b :stuck_out_tongue:

From what I can remember F|A was one of the first clans that uses server facade. I personally don’t care if a server uses serverfacade if it’s running 2.55+. But F|A just dominates the masterserverlist with countless of fake servers with names that attract noobs. Is it good for W:ET? No. Is it good for F|A? Yes. This will also be the main reason F|A will never shut them down.[/QUOTE]

true that ruben, but look at this, if nothing is being done considering all those fake FA servers, why woudnt the other server admins do the same thing? Server facade can be setup in a matter of few mins and 99% of people can do it right now. So, and let some more people start doing it, at the end we will be stuck with 5000 servers showin up on masterlist and 95% of them will be server facade’s…


(Ruben0s) #88

I wonder why they would do something about it right now. It has been like this for 3 years already. You can manipulate the masterserverlist in a lot of ways. Just put a few spaces infront of your server name and you will appear on top of the list :stuck_out_tongue:


(hellreturn) #89

[QUOTE=Dr.J@cka$$;401209]and something else on this picture ^^

http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/5...0603141008.png

look the yellow Germany Server :smiley: they faked us too :slight_smile:

hmmmm i must check out where it gets me…[/QUOTE]

Few weeks back what u and your clan mates did? Copied my server names and started tons of servers/redirect/facades and what not. All those IP’s belong to your clan servers.

Your machine IP: 62.75.222.16
http://imageshack.us/f/684/loosers3.jpg/

Your old machine IP: 88.84.156.143
http://imageshack.us/f/38/loosers5.jpg/

End result? http://forum.splatterladder.com/index.php?showtopic=14734&hl=

Remember? Let me tell you in plain English, I never did those cheap things… In the end your clan mates always did cheap things and fake other clan servers. U guys run fake servers under another clan names.

U even fake wood server names, Here is proof: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/521/fake1n.jpg/

Did i just put enough proof for your clan mates and u servers?

One day, I received DDoS attack from 62.75.222.16 … guess what? It belongs to T.C Mafia. Fun thing was I just contacted my host and they blocked your server IP’s.

I know why you are faking my clan server names, making stories about us and whinning us … because you got busted using private paid bot on our servers.

http://www.pbbans.com/mbi-viewban-5cbad738-vb217722.html

Sadly many ET clan admin and players know you are nothing but cheater. I understand all cheaters whine and make stories of good clans when they get banned.


(Smurfer) #90

It’s the same situation that main menu pk3s create. If one do it, most people will follow.

The only reason I don’t have ~~~~~CleanMainMenu.pk3s specifically designed for the most popular main Menu pk3s on my servers is because then they would be servers full of spam, wouldn’t they.


(Domagoj) #91

[QUOTE=hellreturn;401264]I cannot access the image. I would like to see image.

.[/QUOTE]

http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/553/wet20120603141008.png


(hellreturn) #92

[QUOTE=Dr.J@cka$$;401227]i have serverfacade too in the 2.60b list to show my 2.55 server

some bots are in spec others in game

but only 2 servers^^

but other clan have 10 or much more we donno[/QUOTE]

aww… here is the proof:

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/9533/facadeliers.jpg

So for 1 server u got 2 facades? And for my 11 real 2.55 servers if i run approximate 11 facades redirect one to one… u get angry? Aww how hypocrite and lying stuff.


(hellreturn) #93

If you want server on 2.6b just run server on 2.6b and if you want server on 2.55 just run your server on 2.55. Please stop all this redirect server facade things. I bet if YCN allowed you to run 2 server facades / server you would start running it but it doesn’t so you think if others are doing it’s bad. It’s like if I can’t do this then who is doing it is bad and if I can’t do it then I will not allow others to do it.

But it’s none of my concern of what you can do and what not. I am going to put my suggestion straight forward:

Let’s make a deal. If you stop server facade on your server and remove crap pk3’s of menu and stuff form your server, I will do same for my Euro silent mod server. That’s my word and once I promise it, I don’t break it!

What u say? Agree? Let’s just leave what others have to stay… We both can start to do something good.


(Domagoj) #94

[QUOTE=hellreturn;401269]Let’s make a deal. If you stop server facade on your server and remove crap pk3’s of menu and stuff form your server, I will do same for my Euro silent mod server. That’s my word and once I promise it, I don’t break it!

If you want server on 2.6b just run server on 2.6b and if you want server on 2.55 just run your server on 2.55. Please stop all this redirect server facade things.

What u say? Agree?[/QUOTE]

http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/553/wet20120603141008.png

Why are you doing this? :frowning:


(Timothy) #95

Then do so… Come on.

Back in the old days this stuff was not even needed, because W:ET had it’s communities. Nowadays communities seem like rivals to each other, something this game does CLEARLY not deserve. That’s all I am going to say for now, this stuff is pissing me and pretty much any decent thinking person off I suppose.

E: Let me do a suggestion: Devil, as you are leader of one of the main communities causing these problems: be mature, and act like one, and more importantly, act as an example. Stop your facades, please, or at least give true information (instead of 99 players…). Of course you cannot rely on other people doing this stuff, but I hope the id software crew can solve this issue.


(hellreturn) #96

Domagoj why you are avoiding to answer to stop server facade and removing junk pk3’s from your server? Is it because YCN allows it and you can do it?

Server facade can be setup in a matter of few mins and 99% of people can do it right now. So, and let some more people start doing it, at the end we will be stuck with 5000 servers showin up on masterlist and 95% of them will be server facade’s…

I agree with you… why not we start doing good things by disabling server facade redirect server? U disable on euro silent mod and I will disable on my euro silent mod as mentioned previously.

[QUOTE=hellreturn;401269]If you want server on 2.6b just run server on 2.6b and if you want server on 2.55 just run your server on 2.55. Please stop all this redirect server facade things. I bet if YCN allowed you to run 2 server facades / server you would start running it but it doesn’t so you think if others are doing it’s bad. It’s like if I can’t do this then who is doing it is bad and if I can’t do it then I will not allow others to do it.

But it’s none of my concern of what you can do and what not. I am going to put my suggestion straight forward:

Let’s make a deal. If you stop server facade on your server and remove crap pk3’s of menu and stuff form your server, I will do same for my Euro silent mod server. That’s my word and once I promise it, I don’t break it!

What u say? Agree? Let’s just leave what others have to stay… We both can start to do something good.[/QUOTE]

I am still waiting for your answer?


(Domagoj) #97

dont wanna go offtopic again, but just look @ picture from earlier post, its should be all clear about it, btw my facade is just showin my server in both version, you got servers showed in both version, and server with diffrent names and all that, well, discussion here is done for now i believe, now its all up to SD and ID.


(Ruben0s) #98

SD and ID won’t do anything as it has been like this for years. I got nothing against a facade but showing fake information like F|A does is just wrong.


(hellreturn) #99

If your server facade version would allow you to change server name of 2.6b redirect server you would do that too like you are running current server facade. Don’t be jealous if your server facade version can’t do that. Why it’s all up to SD? SD will not disable your server facade. It’s who you need to do it. At one point you complain for server facades on 2.6b but at same time you keep doing it yourself?

I am going to say again. Disable server facade redirect on your server and remove junk menu pk3’s on your silent mod servers and I will do same for my euro silent mod server :slight_smile: It’s as simple as that. I don’t think I can put more in laymen terms.

Now please don’t complain again unless you would like to disable server facade on your server.


(Dr.JackaSS) #100

hellreturn …Mafia and the other Guys are NOT my teammates…i WAS befor a LONG time in the Clan

I play Battlefield 3 and the only ET server i have is the GermanyNoDownload…and this one is faked by your Clan


This is my New Clan for my new Game Battlefield 3

http://www.precision-reapers.de/

Hey Guys you killed the Game for Clans that are wont strong

188.138.113.151 is the root server i have access to and its even not mine

I only look for the et server
and something else ETc was hacked not you btw