The Timik Situation

(Sprix) #1

As some of you may or may not know 2 of the upcoming Mercs (Stoker and Thunder) Will have access to the Timik-47 and I seriously hope this particular weapons gets “touched” before that happens. As it stands right now there’s not really a huge uproar for this gun considering only Skyhammer gets access to it however it’ll be very detrimental to the game if those Mercs were to be introduced to the game in it’s current form.

Yes, I do know the weapon has a slightly higher RoF and a slightly faster reload speed when compared to the M4, but it’s worse in every other category (The last fine tuning update helped but it was not enough).

Hopefully this will find it’s way to the devs and some relevant changes will be made.

Thanks for your time.

(NuclearBreadstick) #2

I use it cause it looks cooler than the M4.

(xephyr) #3

I love the Timik, much better than the M4 imo. I wish Fragger would have access to this gun …

(Edzer) #4

Yeah it’s not better, M4 is still far superior.

I also like how the gun looks and sounds though :confused:

(Sprix) #5

The vertical kick on the weapon is simply to high for a fully automatic gun, which would be understandable if it had a massive DPS… but it doesn’t.

(watsyurdeal) #6

I feel like the Timik is in the same boat as the SMG 9 was.

Right now, SMG 9 feels like the better weapon for long range fights, while the Crotzni is better for up close due to the slightly higher dps.

The Timik though, I feel like it doesn’t have a purpose. It doesn’t do anything better than the M4 except dps, but the recoil and spread are too big of cons to make it worth using.

(Sprix) #7

[quote=“Watsyurdeal;81425”]I feel like the Timik is in the same boat as the SMG 9 was.

Right now, SMG 9 feels like the better weapon for long range fights, while the Crotzni is better for up close due to the slightly higher dps.

The Timik though, I feel like it doesn’t have a purpose. It doesn’t do anything better than the M4 except dps, but the recoil and spread are too big of cons to make it worth using.[/quote]

Amen.

(CCP115) #8

[quote=“Watsyurdeal;81425”]I feel like the Timik is in the same boat as the SMG 9 was.

Right now, SMG 9 feels like the better weapon for long range fights, while the Crotzni is better for up close due to the slightly higher dps.

The Timik though, I feel like it doesn’t have a purpose. It doesn’t do anything better than the M4 except dps, but the recoil and spread are too big of cons to make it worth using.[/quote]

We should separate the two exactly like the SMG 9 and Crotzni.

M4 remains laser accurate, but maybe gets a clip reduction to 30, or even 25. The damage dropoff distance is increased a little, but not too much, as it used to be so accurate it put my Dreiss to shame.

The Timik then receives a number of changes. Larger initial spread, like Crotzni. Lots of recoil, but not much spread. And also a damage increase. Devastating at close range, but absolutely lackluster at anything past mid range. And reduce the dropoff distance, so the damage gets severely reduced after a bit of distance.

(Amerika) #9

I have a feeling the Timik is going to get adjusted before Stoker is introduced. It’s a hunch based on nothing but it just seems like the time would be right since his default weapon is the Timik and it’s begging to be made different and something other than a worse M4.

(Edzer) #10

Hope so. Really love the animation and sound of the gun ;-;

(XavienX) #11

Timik reminds me of Kek10, but a weaker version of it because of both the weapons recoil and spread.

(BananaSlug) #12

please dont nerf m4 ;-;

(Edzer) #13

[quote=“aedang;82286”]please dont nerf m4 ;-;
[/quote]

Rather than nerfing the m4 they should just buff the timik :stuck_out_tongue:

(TheOrangePhantome) #14

TBH i think i like the Timik more than the M4 cuz it has a much higher recoil which makes it harder to use even tho it still has a easily controlable recoil.

And slso the sound, look and reload of the gun just so nice.

And i’m a fan of the AK family so yeah.

(Sir_Slam) #15

I’d like to see the Timik have a slower ROF but higher damage per shot, a slow-fire rifle like the Blishlok. We dont seem to have one, the closest thing is the k-121.

(Eox) #16

How much DPS does the Timik have at the moment ? If it’s not too far away from the M4A1, we could still buff further its RPM a bit, so you have a bit harder to use but more rewarding gun.

(Sprix) #17

It does have a slightly higher RPM and a slightly faster reload when compared to the M4. I think increasing it’s RoF is a great idea, making them both laser accurate would simply create 2 identical weapons in terms of functionality but giving one of them (the AK) a substantial DPS increase while at the same time being as inaccurate as it is right now would make it pretty interesting.

(Sprix) #18

Timik-47 AR
-Reduced spread and recoil by ~5%.
-Increased effective range to 29m (from 28m).

Praise the maker

The Timik finally received some love, the gun still feels like a worse M4 but this was definitely a step in the right direction.

(MercifuL) #19

[quote=“Sprix;85394”]Timik-47 AR
-Reduced spread and recoil by ~5%.
-Increased effective range to 29m (from 28m).

Praise the maker

The Timik finally received some love, the gun still feels like a worse M4 but this was definitely a step in the right direction. [/quote]

I still think the Timik should have more damage than the M4 but slightly lower rate of fire and spread and recoil should be a bit higher than M4, because M4 recoil is so easy to control and the M4 barely has spread. Basically like a CSGO AK.

(Sprix) #20

[quote=“MercifuL;85468”][quote=“Sprix;85394”]Timik-47 AR
-Reduced spread and recoil by ~5%.
-Increased effective range to 29m (from 28m).

Praise the maker

The Timik finally received some love, the gun still feels like a worse M4 but this was definitely a step in the right direction. [/quote]

I still think the Timik should have more damage than the M4 but slightly lower rate of fire and spread and recoil should be a bit higher than M4, because M4 recoil is so easy to control and the M4 barely has spread. Basically like a CSGO AK.[/quote]

The Timik and the M4 do the same damage per shot, The Timik does however have a slightly higher RoF and slightly faster reload speed. I do understand that the M4 is supposed to be a more accurate gun while the AK-47 has the highest DPS, but what you trade for that minimal dps increase is still not worth dropping the M4’s accurary.

This last patch was a step in the right direction specially with Stoker and Thunder coming soon :smile:

Hopefully the weapon gets revisited once again tho.