[quote=“FrostyVampire;181389”][quote=“buffMonorail;181377”][quote=“FrostyVampire;29381”]It’s great that Phantom finally got buffed a bit and became useful to the team.
But the EMP field ruins the point of him in being sneaky because if the enemy team sees a disabled building they know there’s a Phantom nearby.
Also I must say that the fact you instantly get a 7 seconds cooldown after using the cloak kinda sucks.
What I think you should do is give Phantom a second ability called “electric eye” (name can be changed) which will disable buildings by looking at them and pressing the 2nd ability key (E by default). It will recharge every 8 seconds and you will be able to have 2 at a time (because Phantom has 2 eyes :P). If you are not looking at any building, pressing E won’t do anything (and won’t waste your ability) but you will be able to do it at any range and even while cloaked. Using it will make your eyes glow blue (or red for enemies) for 2 seconds even while you are invisible, so you have to be careful.
And because it will be a separate ability, you can remove the 7 seconds cooldown after cloaking and make it just like before the change
As for Thunder, now he became really OP, can we maybe have the EMP effect on flashbangs back and change it so the minimum movement speed for concussed players will be 40% of the speed they would move normally but it will not apply if you look away from the grenade.
This will both make it easier for the enemies to dodge the flash and avoid Thunder from flashing himself if doing a flash and run strat[/quote]
nope nope you dont need electric eye, we just need the emp to be a separate ability, remove the 7 sec. initial cooldown and some speed to phantom (to match kira) (i think) (maybe).
and thunder is SUPPOSED TO BE THAT OP
his flash cant do jack shid
and do i have to copy paste all that lethality of stun grenades here?
because here we go.
Lethality of stun grenades
Although stun grenades are usually designed to be non-lethal, several injuries and deaths have been attributed to their use. These include the following:
In February 2010, police in Minneapolis, Minnesota, raided the apartment of Rickia Russell looking for drugs. While Russell was eating dinner with her boyfriend, police threw a flashbang grenade after breaching the door. The exploding flashbang gave Rickia 3rd degree burns on both calves, and burns to her head. No drugs were found in Russell’s apartment and the Minneapolis City Council agreed to pay $1 million in damages
In February 2011, a North Carolina SWAT police officer was injured at his home when a stun grenade accidentally detonated while he was attempting to secure his equipment. He underwent emergency surgery, but later died of his injuries
In January 2014, a man was severely injured during rioting caused by the 2014 Ukrainian revolution after he attempted to pick up a live, undetonated stun grenade. The grenade detonated seconds before he could reach it. The explosion caused damage to his right hand and arm, leading to the loss of most of his fingers, as well as heavy blood loss. As of February 2014, the man’s condition is unknown.[13] However, a video of it has been uploaded to LiveLeak.
On May 28, 2014, a 19-month-old baby boy’s face was severely burned and mutilated when a stun grenade was thrown into his playpen by a SWAT team looking for drugs in a Cornelia, Georgia home. The baby survived with facial disfigurement
n August 3, 2014, a Macedonian fan of the FK Vardar football team was seriously injured during a football match after trying to throw a stun grenade used by police when a fight between the police and the fans broke out in the stands of Stadion Tumbe Kafe stadium in Bitola. The grenade exploded in his hand causing him to lose two fingers and suffer severe damage to the structure of his arm.
and this stun grenade is the m84 variant which is waaay smaller than thunder stun grenade.
his stun grenade dont give damage. his stun grenade dont dish out your healing buff. his stun grenade wont prevent you from talking bad about thunder.
and i think youre that kid who says
“hurr i cant take this grenade to the face yo! but im okay with fragger grenade because i blown to smithereens in a split seconds!”
NOBODY WANTS THUNDER TO BE NERFED BACK TO THE WAY HE WAS BEFORE
BECAUSE HE CANT DO ANYTHING OF SIGNIFICANCE TO THE TEAM
if you want to talk bad about merc so OP and all please play the merc first.
(i was like you before.)
i had it with you people talking thunder needs a nerf. hes really cool now and im not gonna let SD re-nerf him because some kids talk bad about phantom.
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The electric eye IS a separate ability. And it makes a bit more sense than adding an EMP shield radius. But it doesn’t really matter much what the ability is. I wanted to bring the same point: We don’t need a really long cooldown just for using the cloak and then instantly decloaking, and we need the EMP ability to be separate
I do play Thunder, I just miss the EMP ability for his conc nades and I wanna be able to throw a flash and look away while running towards it and then the moment it detonates turn around and kill everyone instead of hiding behind a corner and then pushing. And it sucks that you move like a fat old lady if the conc nade fuses behind you. The concussion effect can stay but maybe not the slowness?[/quote]
i want emp ability to be separated toooo…and the long cooldown…
soo… while youre playing thunder before this update…
did you notice anything unusual?
like some people jumping around like rabbit or other people keep on running after being concussed?
how am i supposed to help my team if my own ability cant even do shid to the enemies?
its called “concussion grenade” for a reason!
its supposed to concuss people!
Concusssed people cant run!
THAT IS WHAT MAKES THUNDA THE THUNDA
not some party popper like it was used to.
i do miss the emp too.
i used my concussion to rekt aura med station so my team can charge the camp.
but yknow, im ded before i charge in because they saw me coming
