The founders pack dont give enought.

(zatoichi35) #1

Hi,I already played many beta, and i used to bought founder pack ( i like to support a Dev team), but the pack for Dirty Bomb seems a bit skinflint…No xp bonus? no ingame currency? no special weapons? for the first kind of pack, all i see is not good at all
Founder’s merk are like skin, arent they? skin for a fps… nothing more?

I bought a 30$ pack, and i wanted to give more, but, those pack suck. This is the first time that i see no ingame currency in a founder pack…( this game is f2p,right? this will have something like ingame currency i guess?)

I really expect an real improvement for the pack contents…

this is just not enought.

I hope you realize that the whole content of the ( the first 3 pack) pack did not even worth the actual price…while most of founder pack worth MORE than the price…

So please, improve the pack content’s… and i will be able to talk about it to my friend…because, for the moment, only fan would buy it…An di believe that with more content in the pack, more people would buy it.
(I would buy a more expensive pack)

(Mustang) #2

So you have classes and each class has several different characters, these characters are referred to as mercs and are essentially the best things you can unlocked with in-game currency.

They are not just skins, the skins are called… skins.

A merc consists of a character of a particular class with associated skin, weapons, special abilities, etc.

I guess they could have given you in-game currency, but at the end of the day most people would spend it on the best thing available, and that is the mercs.

(zatoichi35) #3

So i may have misanderstood the merck thing.

Merk isnt only a skin ( esthetic ) ? It is kind of specific customisated class? with special weapon/stats or abilitys? if yes , i think more information about it, in the founder pack page could be nice :slight_smile:

(badman) #4

Thanks for your feedback! Each Founder’s Merc consists of the character and a limited edition premium outfit that you can only get through the packs - in other words, it’s not just the skin you’re buying but also the Merc that goes with it. Each Merc comes with their own weapon load-out and possesses a unique gameplay ability only available to that particular Merc.

You’ll also get priority beta access with the lower packs, and instant alpha access with the higher ones.

(Mustang) #5

I don’t disagree, but it’s still early days, as more publicity stuff goes out later down the line I’m sure people will achieve enlightenment.

(zatoichi35) #6

Ok, thx !

So, i misanderstood the meaning of Merks. So , good news , the pack seems worth their cost+ i enjoy to hear that there a special class mechanic in the game( i enjoy that kind of stuff). Nice :slight_smile:

(.FROST.) #7

There’s a good chance, I’ve simply missed it in the forums -if so, please reply with the according link-, if not, then here is my question:

What are the rough numbers of Dirty Bomb:

  • number of mercs/sets of mercs(including the purchaseable ones) at release
  • ultimate number of mercs(or are there constantly new sets coming out, as long as DB is profitable?)
  • number of maps at release
  • ultimate number of maps(or are there allways new maps to come, as long as DB is alive and profitable?)
(Mustang) #8

None of these figures have been made public yet, you might get a more accurate answer in the private forums.

(badman) #9

I will say that we don’t have a final number for maps or Mercs for obvious reasons. If DB is still popular 10 years after release, chances are there’ll be new content being made for it still. :slight_smile:

(Falcon.PL) #10

[QUOTE=badman;456818]Each Merc comes with their own weapon load-out and possesses a unique gameplay ability only available to that particular Merc.
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It makes no sense still, since the difference will not impact anything real - another skin for the same weapon is still the same as another skin for a playerModel <- as you(SD) said it will not be pay to win = merc has no abilities worth consideration. Otherwise it would impact the balance and the game would become more or less pay to win, which as we know is not the case at all.

Pack are still just for fans, who want to pay because we like your games and want you to go on developing them.

(.FROST.) #11

@Falcon

It was stated before, they are not just new skins, yet they aren’t suppossed to be OP either. New sets of mercs consist of the same 5 classes everytime, BUT with different weapon loadouts; wich of course, work a bit differently and have varying effects on their targets, but allways with the balance in mind. Same goes for the abilities, wich will vary within their classes, depending on the merc you’ve chosen.

I think the different sets of mercs are mainly there for means of variation, since variation keeps a game fresh and increases it’s longevity.

(Mustang) #12

Of course mercs have different weapons with different attributes, some will be OP in one situation and others in other situations, the key is balance.

(.FROST.) #13

This^ , and that’s the fun about it, as long as they are not OP by nature in every situation.

(zatoichi35) #14

[QUOTE=Falcon.PL;456962]I merc has no abilities worth consideration. Otherwise it would impact the balance and the game would become more or less pay to win, which as we know is not the case at all.
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No.
For exemple tf2 weapons. They are differents, but having them dont make you more powerfull. why? because u switch one weapon( that everyone already have for free) for another. Both have the same power, but in different ways.

If Merks work this way , it will be fine. I guess that every one will have one Merks for each class for free. Then, if I buy another merk , my new merk WONT BE more powerfull than the others , it will just be different.

And personally, i think the loadout Mekrs idea looks just GREAT. I really didnt expected that, but its a nice surprise for me. I think that kind of idea guarantee some money for the Dev, and keep preventing the game to be a p2w.

At worst, the game could be a “pay to fun” = if u want more fun ( so more merk) u pay.

More i learn about this game, more i have the feeling taht they are doing it right.

(rookie1) #15

wish a visual youtube of all this for good comprehension when time will come :slight_smile:

(Falcon.PL) #16

Replying to many posts, no quotes therefore.

For an analogy let’s have a soccer pitch with two goals having different dimensions, yet the waged Area of them kept virtually the same. This is in the roots the same situation, yet it becomes quite obvious, that wages may differ as spectator is reselected. Game is therefore losing the unquestionable fairness, as we introduce the common pay-to-win model. Common I say, cause it is in most cases but a slight change in odds. Being able to adjust better to the situation, for example. OP would cease fun for all, and in pay-to-win the task is (likely) to maintain the fun levels in a community on an acceptable levels maximizing profit.

Imagine it’s a football match commencing - goals have an arbitrary balance, would that be accepted in competitive soccer? Nope.

That’s why I prefer classical approach to the fairness of a game - non-questionable and universal. You switch the virtually identical sides of a pitch rather than introduce an option to buy a narrower goal… but taller! C’mon. I remain unconvinced. In my opinion it’s balancing on a brink.

(Bullveyr) #17

[QUOTE=badman;456818]Thanks for your feedback! Each Founder’s Merc consists of the character and a limited edition premium outfit that you can only get through the packs - in other words, it’s not just the skin you’re buying but also the Merc that goes with it. Each Merc comes with their own weapon load-out and possesses a unique gameplay ability only available to that particular Merc.
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Just to be clear that I understand this correctly:

The Mercs you get with one of the founder packs are also obtainable ingame (be it only with real money or also with “XP”), only the skin is exclusive?

(.FROST.) #18

[QUOTE=Bullveyr;456990]Just to be clear that I understand this correctly:

The Mercs you get with one of the founder packs are also obtainable ingame (be it only with real money or also with “XP”), only the skin is exclusive?[/QUOTE]

I’m also a bit confused, though I think what badman meant was, you’ll get the limited edition mercs* and -since every set of mercs has it’s particular set of outfits- also a set of limited edition outfits that goes with them.

*with their unique weapon loadout.

(badman) #19

To clarify, the Mercs can be unlocked in the game, but the special Founder’s outfits are only available through these packs.

(Bullveyr) #20

Thanks, as long as special/limited stuff is only cosmetic I’m fine. :slight_smile: