The day we have all been dreading...

(PixelTwitch) #1

//youtu.be/hTWJhtaViAk

Let’s see if this can be prevented and soon…

(INF3RN0) #2

My fav part is that it’s aiming at the chest lmao

(Hyperg) #3

Given the amount of “xigncode3 bypass tutorials” on the interwebz, I’m surprised it took that long xD

(DarkangelUK) #4

Is that the same one that Ryder uses?

(potty200) #5

If this is the case, I think we should probably get a “vote kick” enabled or at least give some active, trustworthy and reliable people admin for the public servers. Ofc, not all will be obvious as this but if this sorta thing is going on. It is fairly easy to see they need removing from the servers.

(Snotling) #6

No comment…

Is the video maker gonna be banned at least? Aside the NDA breach, his key ID is clearly visible and we’ve got a cheater who don’t fear to say what he is.

(Mustang) #7

IIRC correctly all the anti-cheat stuff (XIGNCODE3 and server side analysis) are in observation mode only right now.

(Smooth) #8

This user will be removed and banned.

Work on anti-cheat implementation, echo-analysis, kicking, banning etc. is not yet complete so I wouldn’t be too worried :slight_smile:

(PixelTwitch) #9

[QUOTE=Smooth;499472]This user will be removed and banned.

Work on anti-cheat implementation, echo-analysis, kicking, banning etc. is not yet complete so I wouldn’t be too worried :)[/QUOTE]

Actually… I really do have faith in you guys with this :smiley:
Just creating drama that is all :smiley:

(.FROST.) #10

I never got the appeal of cheating in a game. Well in some SP games it may be required at times, if you don’t wanna spend the rest of your life in this one level, but MP? You simply gain nothing from that. You just pi$$ people off and lie to yourself about your skills. I rather know that I kinda suck in a game, but have fun with it whenever I just suck a bit less, instead of giving myself the artificial impression of being a semi pro player; whatever the hell that might mean.

PS: To brag with a cheat video on YT, whilst his ID is perfectly visible tells you two things about this person; #1, he’s probably 12 1/2 yrs old, and #2, he’s totally stupid :wink:

I remember using a save file cheat/workaround in the original ArmA. You could only save your game once per mission there. And everybody who ever played ArmA’s SP knows, those missions can be friggin long. So I used to “alt-ctrl-del” out of the game, when I was in a safe position and then I’d remove the recent save file manually. I’d then go back into the game and save it again.

That’s the only time I actually used a cheat to accomplish a part of a game and it still haunts me to this day. I don’t know if I should also count those DooM 3 console commands, because in the end I only used them a couple times and just for fun, never to win an entire level, or the game itself. Aside from those two occassions I never touched a cheat.

(Hyperg) #11

Fair enough, tho the bypass schemes I’ve seen refer to released titles, so it seems there’s a lot of observation going on there :tongue:

:goliathspin:

Trying to analyze mp cheaters from the perspective of “decency” will yield no results, Frost :). Social anxieties, lack of empathy and the fact that there’s always another “free id” for anyone to grab as soon as his twisted intentions have been thwarted somewhere in cyberspace, might represent some reasons if you wanna make a bullet list. But it’s really not worth the effort :slight_smile:

(BomBaKlaK) #12

For the moment ban a player is not really a problem cause keys are given only to few people.
But when the game will be release, how is it possible to definitely ban a player if he can make unlimited accounts on a F2P game ?

(Provok) #13

LOLOL JUST GOT ACCESS TO THE GAME, BETTER CODE A CHEAT THAN HAVING FUN ON IT

I will never understand them… Seriously. I hope the AC will be good enough !

(PixelTwitch) #14

[QUOTE=BomBaKlaK;499490]For the moment ban a player is not really a problem cause keys are given only to few people.
But when the game will be release, how is it possible to definitely ban a player is he can make unlimited accounts on a F2P game ?[/QUOTE]

Its always a game of catchup with hackers…
The hope is that SD / FireTeam can literally stay biting at their ankles when it comes to detecting certain programs and doing instabans before even entering a lobby. The ones that get though will always be a problem like with most games (not just free to play). I feel the advantage of having the Demo Recording, Echo stats and Matchmaking should limit the damage hackers can cause… However, like all PC games… Every now and again you will face one…

(Protekt1) #15

Probably because headshots would be so obvious.

(AssortedStuff) #16

Not sure of the intentions of the video poster, as their ign clearly states ‘Dirtbombcheater’. Maybe a mix of bragging but also “hey guys, better do something about this” ??

Detecting before a cheater entering a game would be excelent, but is it possible?

Since the game seems to keep track of player stats another way would be to check stuff like the hit/miss percentage. If it deviates from an average number it would automatically be flagged.
An hit ratio of over 95%(?) would be an instant ban from the match (or maybe even the game) …with perhaps some sort of message to the user.

Another way to catch cheaters would be for the game to keep track of where the bullets hit. If the bullets are always hitting the same area that could be a sign of a cheater playing.

Also, not sure if cheaters can tamper with their own health. Could it be worth to keep track of how much a player gets hit versus their health?

Since most cheaters are looking for instant gratification one course of action could be to NOT send confirmation emails instantly, but make people wait some time. Cheaters would definetly feel frustrated and make a few of them go away.
Also, keep a record of cheaters IP addresses.

(Rex) #17

Earning money is fun.

(MrFunkyFunk) #18

Truly horrid footage … I’m shocked that anyone could listen to such terrible music.

(Rex) #19

The good thing about this hack is, that it is so easy to bust. 0815 Captain obvious hacks.

(Protekt1) #20

This kinda hack is easy to spot. Just checking his average hit % etc. or viewing him from first person will give him away really fast.

Worse is the potential that people perceive DB as being “hacker infested”. That kinda reputation is pretty bad and can be hard to combat against without proper demo/spectate tools. An online viewable scoresheet (showing stats for the last 10 matches including accuracy) can be a very solid solution.