The age old knife debate...


(Danyboy) #21

you all seem to be looking at this from the wrong point of view.

all players have a maximum speed based on their class, loadout and current weapon. Everything else should decrease speed from your possible maximum.

And anyway why should it matter what gets implemented in the final release? QW is hardly a simulation of real life. Go and have this argument on the Team Fortress 2 forums and moan that the scout runs too fast.


(vcs2600) #22

The only gameplay logic I can imagine is to make it impossible to sprint and shoot at the same time. But QuakeWars already has something like that.


(Pytox) #23

Everyone’s runs faster with a knife! :stuck_out_tongue:


([DS]-=Pencil=-) #24

Running faster with a knife would be more realistical.


(kamikazee) #25

I stay with my point: keep it simple and keep the same speed.
Only heavy weapons should slow down, due to their massive damage bonus.

Hmmm… Did you type the extra ‘e’ on purpose? :smiley:


(madness) #26

Isn’t running with knife equipped faster in W:ET ? I don’t remember anymore, pls forgive me :frowning:
If so, then I didn’t see any problem with it in Wolf…


(kamikazee) #27

No, it isn’t. Running gives a constant speed of 255.9 UPS in ETPro, for all regular weapons including the knife. (Of course, heavy weapons form the exception.)


(ayatollah) #28

No you run at the same speed as if you were holding grenade/pistol/smg.


(Desoxy) #29

Well, running faster with pistol/knife in hand might be more realistic, but I would prefer to run at the same speed with knife/pistol/light weapons. If the soldiers were a bit slower when having rocket launcher etc. equipped I wouldn’t mind… :wink:

As Locki said at QCon: ‘It’s in the future!’. Future soldiers and Cyborgs should be able to handle a two handed weapon as well as a pistol/knife while sprinting… :smiley:


(zenith-ply) #30

Well fwiw in terms of realism i remember many moons ago chasing someone brandishaving a long steak knife after I botched his attempted robbagery and it didn’t seem to encucumber his speed. I couldn’t catch up to his instant dash as I was behind a counter, nor did I feel like chasing into the dark winter night. Dont remember if there was a backpack included or not tho, just bell a clava/ski mask getup. Kind of a blur really. Sorry about the off topic, just reminds me of it.

:confused:

blah blah blah…


(ouroboro) #31

IMO as a player, ET is about fast & furious gameplay, not realism. This means one-shot weapons are taboo (something I always loved about the W:ET sniper: requiring followup shots requires more skill and facilitates fast, daring play rather than stifling aggression), and players should move at the same relative speed in ET:QW as in its ancestors (Quake/Wolf), regardless of loadout.

If Quake is far left and CS is far right, ET is decidedly left of center.

My $0.02.


(wolle) #32

I think this is weird in every game. when you carry a rocketlauncher your walking speed is like the speed of a slug. well i’m an antitank-soldier in the swiss army, and i say it depends on how you hold the rocketlauncher or panzerfaust. when you aim, you sure aren’t as fast as when you carry it with both hands, or carry it on the back but you aren’t that slow either. i think it should be like some people said. you should run faster with the knife. just for fun :smiley: but the speed when you carry a rocketlauncher should also not be much slower than without it. of course it’s more comfortable when you carry it on the back and most comfortable if you don’t carry a rocketlauncher at all. but i think these are all soldiers, all well trained. and it’s war, so they should run always as fast as they can :smiley: :banana:


(Floris) #33

It was fun running out with knife in CS, and getting owned while holding knife and an opponent silently coming arround the corner


(Diecast5) #34

Does the Strogg carrie a knife ?
I think the speed should be left alone .
It should mater what your carring at all time , like in tribes 2 thare are a lite player, med player, and a heavy player there all diferent running speed , ET-QW should be like that . that’s my $0.02.


(Moriarty) #35

Dont run with scissors… running with a knife should fall under the same rule… in fact anything pointy should not be held by anyone while running… as someone said before it is Dangerous! I mean what would your mother tell you? Also I have been in actual “real life” combat (not paint-ball or airsoft…Yes real bullets), and running with a knife will NOT help you run faster.


(Got-JuicE) #36

You woud run faster because if you ran fast you would know that the arm motion makes alot of difference, with a gun you can run faster and it heighs alot more then a knife.
And if they make a Jungle map which would be sick, then a knife wud be useful for running fast behind people and slicing them.


(SpetSnaZ) #37

it would be sick if u could trow knives!!
And that it kept sticking in a strogg.
Especially in a possible jungle enviorment.
Maybe it is indeed better i u could run a little bit faster.


(caelumstarson) #38

My opinion on this is, well, no, you may be carrying a knife but you still have the rest of your kit on your back so your still carrying the exact same weight. Some people say you should, but I see no logic in it, people may say that you would run faster with it on your back, but the point is that the difference in RL would be hardly noticeble, try it yourself - no really. So I’m just curios, will they implement this and do you agree with it? (The poll is on whether you agree with running faster or not).

Just wondering

HAHAHHA man you set yourself up for this

PurePwnage Episode 5

if anyone of you have watched this you know what i’m talking about, it goes along these lines (not exact words)

kyle: “hey doug where are you going?”
doug: “running”
kyle: “your going running with a knife?”
doug: “Pffft… Everyone runs faster with a knife!”

just a bit extra
“I thought about joining the army, I mean, it’s basically FPS, except with better graphics. But what happens if I get lagout there? I’m dead! I even heard there’s no respawn points in RL!”
“The army is basically like FPS except better graphics”

For all you people who don’t know what RL is it’s real life… i’m just saying…

EDIT******

I managed to track down the real words:

“So you wanna go for a run?”
“Sure but…what are you doing with the knife…”
“Everyone runs faster with a knife!”


(caelumstarson) #39

umm you can throw knives in some servers… btw i’m all for running faster with knives, Knives FTW!!


(caelumstarson) #40


go to about 1:20 in it and you can see the clip…