That old 'get rid of levels' debacle.

(Scav) #21

Levels mean very little. Im not even sure why they are in the game, since they dont serve any benefits after the first 5 or so levels? (1 lead case per level i guess is something tho)
If we display something, then display the ranked trophies, thatd make more sense. Usually lvl 10-20 ppl are mediocre, with some exceptions, and then lvl 40 and above just own everyone (with the rare exceptions of boosted potatoes).
Id say the level display is pretty much useless at this point, especially since the sorting is done by actual performance (in theory).

About the cries, there is whining, and there is realistic thinking. (the line is rather thin between the two, but its there) When i face about 2 or more above level 40s i know im not gonna do shite, because i cant aim that well at all, im still gonna play as best (read: mediocre) as i can, but it wont matter as much in a stompwatch round for example. So, yeah, level display is outdated, but its not gonna change as much as ppl hope for, but its potentially for the better.

(Occult) #22

i hate trying to play a game while someone tries/asks repeatedly to balance teams all because he adds up each teams lvls and they don’t “balance” out to them.

(KattiValk) #23

It’s great to see levels disappearing.

I’ve seen some pretty bad high levels in my time. There was one especially funny OCB guy who was steadfast in his determination to complete Bridge’s last objective and was constantly picking up the drugs and goin for the deliver, but I was sitting back at the lab with an ammo station dropping burst after burst into his head, and my friend kept rezzing him back, time after time. :lol:

(Jostabeere) #24

@Matuno confirmed virgin by Josh :trollface:

(OmaGretel) #25

One thing that doesn’t help is that levels progress pretty much linear. People are used to RPGs where you level very fast in the beginning and have to work hard for every level when you approach endgame. And people just assume it’s the same for DB. They think it takes hundreds of hours to progress another level at 80+. When in fact a level 80 just has roughly twice the play time of a level 40.
I’m not saying this is a bad thing in itself, but it creates wrong expectations about how much time the high level player has spent in DB.

(gg2ez) #26

Fun fact: he actually said he didn’t need to dedicate a wall of text, not that he wouldn’t.

Words, my friend.

[quote=“Kakutov;171093”]
-snip-[/quote]
Yes, I agree woth you when you say that high-level players are often better than low-level players but you’re a whiny piss-pot if you think it’s ok to just discard your opponent if you can’t beat them - on a PUBLIC server no less.

Yours sincerely, a really shtty player who gets stomped quite easily who is sick of hearing stupid excuses from other shtty players.

#27

I’ll just leave this here for your enjoyment :wink:

http://www.upload.ee/image/5722044/remove_levels_vol2.png

(RazielWarmonic) #28

[quote=“Kaur;171198”]I’ll just leave this here for your enjoyment :wink:

http://www.upload.ee/image/5722044/remove_levels_vol2.png[/quote]

My favorite part is there is a snippet of @Matuno mocking you.

Explain yourself, man. :open_mouth:

On a serious note, what @FireWorks linked explains everything. They are going away eventually, just not right at this moment.

(Randomdeath) #29

the amount people complain about people going for kdr is too damn high… the thing is people USUALLY arent going for kd they are trYING TO PUSH anD YOU ARE SITTING THERE NOT PUSHing wITH THEM! you need to communicate to them either to stay back or tell the rest of your team to push with them. And in my (almost) 500 hours of Dirty Bomb i have never EVER seen a medic run past a downed teamate, only try to shoot an enemy so that the medic wont DIE trying to revive your sorry a$$

(Matuno) #30

[quote=“RazielWarmonic;171199”][quote=“Kaur;171198”]I’ll just leave this here for your enjoyment :wink:

http://www.upload.ee/image/5722044/remove_levels_vol2.png[/quote]

My favorite part is there is a snippet of @Matuno mocking you.

Explain yourself, man. :open_mouth:

On a serious note, what @FireWorks linked explains everything. They are going away eventually, just not right at this moment.[/quote]

I only see the part about the EV exploit, and I’m pretty serious about that.

(Amerika) #31

I’ve been asking for levels, as they are, to either go away or become something different that makes sense for a very long time now. The fact that they are going away, at least publicly, is pretty much the best news ever in regards to casual pubbing.

(Theodoooore) #32

What kind of play time can you expect for a level 9 who has never played ranked?

I am curious to see if I am behind the curve on that one.

(nokiII) #33

[quote=“Theodoooore;171241”]What kind of play time can you expect for a level 9 who has never played ranked?

I am curious to see if I am behind the curve on that one.[/quote]

It took me 16 hours on my smurf.

(Amerika) #34

[quote=“Kakutov;171093”]I love how ppl say: “Being a high lvl doesn’t give me +50% health, it doesn’t give me a damage modifier” but at the end of the day they stomp low levels and most of the time they spawncamp them. So if you see these jokes that means you are playing a lot against newbs that are tired of fighting against more experienced player. Just play on min 20lvl servers and you’ll be good.
It’s not about levels, but about lack of balance in pubs.[/quote]

If it’s not about levels why are you marking people who only talk about levels with a disagree then?

Please do not abuse the system. We are pretty lenient on these forums but we tend to look poorly on people who use the flag system in a manner that looks like revenge. Keep this in mind going forward.

(Havik_Gaming) #35

I played against a level 102 the other day, and by god did he/she slaughter us. there were definitely the whole ‘why are you playing pubs’ put out there but honestly we held our own against that player. Levels just show how long someone has been playing. So i don’t get why people think if someone is like 20+ levels above them that they think it is impossible to kill them.
i do hope that eventually levels will be gone in pubs, like in ranked mode. But that you could still see your level progression in your stats or something.

(Theodoooore) #36

[quote=“hypnotoad;171249”]

[quote=“Theodoooore;171241”]What kind of play time can you expect for a level 9 who has never played ranked?

I am curious to see if I am behind the curve on that one.[/quote]

It took me 16 hours on my smurf.[/quote]

Hmm. I’m currently at 78 hours. Oddest part is I am pretty good at DB, not Sniff Fletcher airstrikes good but I can take out a good chunk of the other team before dying. I frequently topscore too.

How long can you expect to spend going up by 1 level? I have been on level 9 for a long time.

(nokiII) #37

[quote=“Theodoooore;171272”]

How long can you expect to spend going up by 1 level? I have been on level 9 for a long time.[/quote]
You need 400k xp per level after level 9 or 10. Look at your XP/min in your stats and you can work your average time per level up out.

(blisteringOwlNest) #38

I don’t know, I’ve played against a level 143 before (who seems to main skyhammer) on EU and while he’s often at the top, he’s defiantly not noticeably better.

Also, if levels are removed, will there be more hackusations? Lots of people don’t check steam time played, and without a reference for time played in game, there may be a flood of reports. That may negatively effect the system, making real hackers harder to catch.

(Kakutov) #39

[quote=“Amerika;171251”][quote=“Kakutov;171093”]I love how ppl say: “Being a high lvl doesn’t give me +50% health, it doesn’t give me a damage modifier” but at the end of the day they stomp low levels and most of the time they spawncamp them. So if you see these jokes that means you are playing a lot against newbs that are tired of fighting against more experienced player. Just play on min 20lvl servers and you’ll be good.
It’s not about levels, but about lack of balance in pubs.[/quote]

If it’s not about levels why are you marking people who only talk about levels with a disagree then?

Please do not abuse the system. We are pretty lenient on these forums but we tend to look poorly on people who use the flag system in a manner that looks like revenge. Keep this in mind going forward.[/quote]

Are you saying that I cannot flag your comment just because it looks like revenge to you? This is ridiculous considering that you’re a moderator.

(SereneFlight) #40

Are you saying that I cannot flag your comment just because it looks like revenge to you? This is ridiculous considering that you’re a moderator.[/quote]
When you flag a legit post, it will look like a revenge in reasonable person’s eyes.
If you disagree with a post, we got a button for that instead of going for childish flagging.