Thanks SD , for nothing

[Speedless_Flash]

Well when the MOFO update was live I couldnt play it casue i had exams. So had have been fully hyped for about 2 weeks. Sometimes i did played on offline servers had 40 fps from older 25fps . But when playing online i’m getting the same. Yep, my hype was just a fking waste. Thanks SD.

[RazielWarmonic]

Hello Speedless!

While we allow constructive feedback on our forums, please be aware of some things:

• Offline play and online play will vary drastically for several reasons, including things suck more players and abilities.
• Straight up complaining doesn’t help.
• Can you list your computer specs so we or even the community can help you out?

We don’t know what you’re comparing your FPS to, or what you are complaining about - are you saying your FPS is lower in online play compared to offline?

Thanks!

[The_N00Ba]

Yeah Speedless_Flash we need more information in order to try to help you out.

I understand your frustration. I understand the need to vent when things just don’t go right.

We again need more information in order to try to help though.

I hope when you have had some time to vent elsewhere you can provide such information later since to me this game seems to be important to you.

take care in the meantime.

[Speedless_Flash]

[quote=“RazielWarmonic;213986”]Hello Speedless!

While we allow constructive feedback on our forums, please be aware of some things:

• Offline play and online play will vary drastically for several reasons, including things suck more players and abilities.
• Straight up complaining doesn’t help.
• Can you list your computer specs so we or even the community can help you out?

We don’t know what you’re comparing your FPS to, or what you are complaining about - are you saying your FPS is lower in online play compared to offline?

Thanks![/quote]

Ok I’ll clear things up for u guys

My specs.

Intel Core i5-2410m
8 Gigs of RAM
Radeon Hd 6470m

Well i donno but a thing i tried before the update is close explorer process from tskmgr. So it will reduse the load on my HDD or CPU (donno what it is) . But now it doesnt work.

Secondly,

I was playing at 720p with 25 fps but i managed to aim nicely. but with this update when fps go down below 30 my mouse become irresponsive (aim lagging)

I tried to lower down to 800x600 but it doesnt help. I seriously need help cause I love the game so much

Waiting for an answer !!!

[quote=“RazielWarmonic;213986”]Hello Speedless!

We don’t know what you’re comparing your FPS to, or what you are complaining about - are you saying your FPS is lower in online play compared to offline?

Thanks![/quote]

Also what i compared is my FPS before the update and after the update

[dakone23_cc]

[quote=“Speedless_Flash;214046”][quote=“RazielWarmonic;213986”]Hello Speedless!

While we allow constructive feedback on our forums, please be aware of some things:

• Offline play and online play will vary drastically for several reasons, including things suck more players and abilities.
• Straight up complaining doesn’t help.
• Can you list your computer specs so we or even the community can help you out?

We don’t know what you’re comparing your FPS to, or what you are complaining about - are you saying your FPS is lower in online play compared to offline?

Thanks![/quote]

Ok I’ll clear things up for u guys

My specs.

Intel Core i5-2410m
8 Gigs of RAM
Radeon Hd 6470m

Well i donno but a thing i tried before the update is close explorer process from tskmgr. So it will reduse the load on my HDD or CPU (donno what it is) . But now it doesnt work.

Secondly,

I was playing at 720p with 25 fps but i managed to aim nicely. but with this update when fps go down below 30 my mouse become irresponsive (aim lagging)

I tried to lower down to 800x600 but it doesnt help. I seriously need help cause I love the game so much

Waiting for an answer !!!

[quote=“RazielWarmonic;213986”]Hello Speedless!

We don’t know what you’re comparing your FPS to, or what you are complaining about - are you saying your FPS is lower in online play compared to offline?

Thanks![/quote]

Also what i compared is my FPS before the update and after the update

[/quote]

You are not going to like my answer but here it goes…

For starters laptops are not really a great tool to use for gaming… They are very under powered compared to desktops which have more room to expand on. Now to go father into other reasons why you are not getting enough fps.

Intel i5-2410m Is not a good processor for games its only got 2 cores and a measly 3mb cache. I have a Intel Core i5‑6400 2.7 GHz Quad‑Core and it blows that cpu out of the water.

As for the gpu if you want to call it that… Integrated graphic cards are one of the reasons why laptop pcs are not really for gaming and everyone will tell you this, But anyway some reasons why this card isn’t really for mid-high to high ranged gamging. For starters its memory speed is very bad It only goes up to 800 MHz and the core speed is at 750 MHz at best. To play any game at atleast 60fps you should look towards cards that support over 1000 MHz and maybe 2gb of ram as well.

Although since you’re on a laptop upgrading will not be easy… and to have someone do the installing for you would cost a lot. You could look around on amazon and see about making a very cheap rig I know some people who where able to make gaming pcs with only $700 and they even out perform my 1.5k custom order, though you do need to know how to install stuff…

[watsyurdeal]

Get a desktop dude

[K1X455]

Gaming laptops exists.

[AlphaUT]

I would never ever buy a laptop for gaming. The heats, the spinning speed, the design, are just bad for gaming. Get a desktop.

[AlphaUT]

@RazielWarmonic BTW, any idea for quoting people on mobile this function ?
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[spoiler]Please?
[spoiler]Please ??
[spoiler]Please???
[spoiler]STOP
[spoiler]I SAID STOP
[spoiler]PLEASE STOP
[spoiler]REALLY ?
[spoiler]Okay, you pissed me off now
[spoiler]I will leave
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[watsyurdeal]

[quote=“K1X455;214120”]Gaming laptops exists.
[/quote]

But the problem is they are usually too expensive, I mean I can buy a 144 hz gaming laptop with a great card and processor for over 2000, or buy a desktop for half that price.

[Amerika]

The following is just a general post about laptops in general for education purposes and a PSA for anybody interested in buying a laptop and plan on gaming on it as a primary system.

The biggest issue is that laptops do tend to have processors and GPU’s that sound like they are equivalent to desktop models with similar names but in reality they were nowhere close. So a lot of people think they are getting something way more powerful than it actually is which causes issues with gaming performance expectations.

And even if you know this and accept it, the the biggest issue with playing games on laptops is games produce a lot of heat for the CPU and GPU and the system in general. This very quickly increases the chances of your machine throttling itself down to avoid damaging your hardware which leads to overall FPS drops or spikey performance. Also, due to running at super hot temps compared to desktops, laptops break down fast due to them running so hot. And there isn’t much you can do about that without getting it serviced (and sometimes not even then).

There are a lot of downsides to gaming on laptops sadly. However, the one plus is that is starting to change a bit with newer technology. Newer Intel procs are starting to get very close to their desktop brethren and Nvidia GPU’s in laptops, 10xx series, are now identical to their desktop counterparts outside of being underclocked a bit since they don’t get as beefy of cooling solutions. That might not solve the thermal/heat issues in some laptops but at least gaming laptops are getting closer to being acceptable in regards to performance.

[watsyurdeal]

So much agree with the above post, thanks Amerika

[The_N00Ba]

I am always honored when ever i learn some thing new from the more Veteran FPS players. Thanks again Amerika.

[K1X455]

There’s always a downside to things doesn’t it? Even Lauren Scott doesn’t recommend gaming laptops, but hey, manufacturers like Alienware do it for a particular range of app for a particular set of gamer (more specifically, someone who has to be moving from place to place). The hardware arrangement of this breed of laptop is different from your run of the mill portable computing device. Technology wise, they got more dedicated cooling mechanism per watt consumed because manufacturers of these gaming platforms know that if they don’t resolve that issue, no one will buy their product. This is one of the driving cost of this gaming platform.

I used to run DB using MSI laptop without a hitch (of course, the usual bugs and here and there but it was highly tolerable unlike now). Ever since MSI’s power soupfly unit gave up, I decided to hand build a desktop myself and it was all good until SSIII.

Come to think of it, the problems of low end spec platform is not that different from my platform. Even an Intel I7-6700K, with 32 GB DD4 and Radeon RX480 is struggling to run DB, but conversely it’s not having any issues with other games like DOOM, Borderlands2, CS:GO, The Division, TF2, DyingLight, MechWarrior II, or even eVolvE II. It’s not hardware at fault. Firmware could be having problems but more evidence shows that it’s the app that causing the issue.

[SnakekillerX]

Ok I’ll clear things up for u guys

My specs.

Intel Core i5-2410m
8 Gigs of RAM
Radeon Hd 6470m

Well i donno but a thing i tried before the update is close explorer process from tskmgr. So it will reduse the load on my HDD or CPU (donno what it is) . But now it doesnt work.

Secondly,

I was playing at 720p with 25 fps but i managed to aim nicely. but with this update when fps go down below 30 my mouse become irresponsive (aim lagging)

I tried to lower down to 800x600 but it doesnt help. I seriously need help cause I love the game so much

Waiting for an answer !!!

So basically DB development has to stop because this guy’s potato won’t be able to run it well… am I reading this right?

While map optimizations were done, there will still be MORE things added to the game, which means it will ultimately continue to take up more resources, and you will still need a better computer to run it in the end.

[GatoCommodore]

[quote=“SnakekillerX;214320”][quote=“Speedless_Flash;214046”]

Ok I’ll clear things up for u guys

My specs.

Intel Core i5-2410m
8 Gigs of RAM
Radeon Hd 6470m

Well i donno but a thing i tried before the update is close explorer process from tskmgr. So it will reduse the load on my HDD or CPU (donno what it is) . But now it doesnt work.

Secondly,

I was playing at 720p with 25 fps but i managed to aim nicely. but with this update when fps go down below 30 my mouse become irresponsive (aim lagging)

I tried to lower down to 800x600 but it doesnt help. I seriously need help cause I love the game so much

Waiting for an answer !!!

[/quote]

So basically DB development has to stop because this guy’s potato won’t be able to run it well… am I reading this right?

While map optimizations were done, there will still be MORE things added to the game, which means it will ultimately continue to take up more resources, and you will still need a better computer to run it in the end.[/quote]

no his computer isnt a potato mine is worse than his and still run DB 30FPS.
its just the update was very weird taking up processing for the Black Chiper.

while i agree that he will probably need to upgrade, his 8 GB ram is kind of no problem to be honest. I5 also not very bad at playing games

[AlphaUT]

I don’t even know what I can say about him. Both @Amerika and @dakone23_cc explained pretty well.

Also, 8GB shouldn’t really be a problem for playing dirty bomb.

[prismaticDinosaur]

[quote=“sweetColumn;214332”][quote=“SnakekillerX;214320”][quote=“Speedless_Flash;214046”]

Ok I’ll clear things up for u guys

My specs.

Intel Core i5-2410m
8 Gigs of RAM
Radeon Hd 6470m

Well i donno but a thing i tried before the update is close explorer process from tskmgr. So it will reduse the load on my HDD or CPU (donno what it is) . But now it doesnt work.

Secondly,

I was playing at 720p with 25 fps but i managed to aim nicely. but with this update when fps go down below 30 my mouse become irresponsive (aim lagging)

I tried to lower down to 800x600 but it doesnt help. I seriously need help cause I love the game so much

Waiting for an answer !!!

[/quote]

So basically DB development has to stop because this guy’s potato won’t be able to run it well… am I reading this right?

While map optimizations were done, there will still be MORE things added to the game, which means it will ultimately continue to take up more resources, and you will still need a better computer to run it in the end.[/quote]

no his computer isnt a potato mine is worse than his and still run DB 30FPS.
its just the update was very weird taking up processing for the Black Chiper.

while i agree that he will probably need to upgrade, his 8 GB ram is kind of no problem to be honest. I5 also not very bad at playing games[/quote]

It’s a 5 year old laptop. that “I5” is actually a low-speed dualcore and the gpu is propably weaker than intel’s integrated ones. I’d be worried about hardware overheating even with the ancient venerable engine of this game.

[GatoCommodore]

[quote=“prismaticDinosaur;214390”][quote=“sweetColumn;214332”][quote=“SnakekillerX;214320”][quote=“Speedless_Flash;214046”]

Ok I’ll clear things up for u guys

My specs.

Intel Core i5-2410m
8 Gigs of RAM
Radeon Hd 6470m

Well i donno but a thing i tried before the update is close explorer process from tskmgr. So it will reduse the load on my HDD or CPU (donno what it is) . But now it doesnt work.

Secondly,

I was playing at 720p with 25 fps but i managed to aim nicely. but with this update when fps go down below 30 my mouse become irresponsive (aim lagging)

I tried to lower down to 800x600 but it doesnt help. I seriously need help cause I love the game so much

Waiting for an answer !!!

[/quote]

So basically DB development has to stop because this guy’s potato won’t be able to run it well… am I reading this right?

While map optimizations were done, there will still be MORE things added to the game, which means it will ultimately continue to take up more resources, and you will still need a better computer to run it in the end.[/quote]

no his computer isnt a potato mine is worse than his and still run DB 30FPS.
its just the update was very weird taking up processing for the Black Chiper.

while i agree that he will probably need to upgrade, his 8 GB ram is kind of no problem to be honest. I5 also not very bad at playing games[/quote]

It’s a 5 year old laptop. that “I5” is actually a low-speed dualcore and the gpu is propably weaker than intel’s integrated ones. I’d be worried about hardware overheating even with the ancient venerable engine of this game.[/quote]

my pc to work and to play DB is bootcamped iMac with i5 2400s and only 4 gb of ram.

[prismaticDinosaur]

http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i5-2410M-vs-Intel-Core-i5-2400S

tldr: around 50% higher benchmarks on your side

Memory shouldnt be an issue as long as its >4gigs with adequate bus speed