Teasing with event rewards...

(almondFlower) #1

Reopening the thread as previous was closed due to “flame bait”. I was todl in PM by Faraleth I am allowed to.

So I kindly ask every1 who decide to post to do it in a normal manner. I try to copy+paste from the previous thread the “worthy” posts.:

by me:
"… are very bad for the game.

You can’t just throw in: “Hey there is this cool LIMITED edition card you can farm in 3 days, come and play with us!”

What’s funny is the Devs are probably home with a smile on their damn face thinking “Yeah fellas, we gave something really cool to the community”.

While in reality, they just gave anger, annoyance, and the chance some ppl will get so upset they will quit or never purchase anything again.

I can only speak for myself. But I’ve been playing in shifts with my wife from the first minute the event started. Only taking break for food,restroom,bath and sleep… (I know, why sleep when I can farm more -_-)

Think I can safely say that after MANY of us spent 30++++ hours farming, and only gaining the Trash Case (hundreds of them)… Let’s just say this part of the community starts to feel that the game isn’t fun anymore.

Also seeing how some1 random fella, who doesn’t even had ANY idea that we even have an event comes on the forums and yell “Derp I got 4 CW Event cases praise the RNGesus” <— @$!# him and @$!# the RNG

TL;DR: this event, in this form does more harm to the game than good."

by Lumi:
"I think the base feeling from the devs was to give us all the chance to get at least one through the regular cases with 0.3%. Since that didn’t happen, due to it being ridiculously low, they came up with this idea to give us a chance at getting one.

I agree with you that this is pretty lame. As they could just have given one away as a login treat instead of the expert cases. But considering the fact that all started idiotically since the 0.3% drop chance idea, this is better than nothing.

I might be biased, since I got one card after playing for 4h40min, but then again have been playing pretty much yesterday all day and nothing…

In my opinion next time they do something like this, they would get much more money if they’d sell one of those guaranteed cases for 1 euro. I would have bought a bunch of them and I know of many who would have too."

by me:
"@Lumi “I might be biased, since I got one card after playing for 4h40min, but then again have been playing pretty much yesterday all day and nothing…”

Yes you are biased. I’m more objective on the “matter”. Even if I happen to get 1, I still know this event is a crap and not fair with the playerbase… and yes, I would still be here on forums complaining about this."

by cornJester:
“To be honest the expert cases should’ve just been limited edition cases and the random drop idea should’ve been scrapped. That way everyone gets some, not some getting a few and others getting none.”

by Daergar:
"Who is defending a 0.3% chance of getting the major reward from a hyped event? If we discount the odds of getting an actually viable card.

The value of said reward is very debatable, though much less so than this god damn randomly decided crap. SD really needs to take an updated course on monetization, maybe even realize that this entire card system is flawed."

by servuskal
“Really? So double credit event, massive store discounts and the chances for a 100% CW case arent enough for you? In most F2P games you dont even get the chance to aquire the new exlusive skins as a F2P player. Why would anyone want to spend 35€ if everyone would get a guaranteed CW loadout? You do realize Splashdamage isnt the salvation army and instead needs to make money, right?”

by me:
"“Why would anyone want to spend 35€ if everyone would get a guranteed CW loadout?”

I don’t know… Maybe because the 10 chests + 1 CW event case? The 10 cheasts has increased drop chance for the special (10%?).

Heard this reasoning several times, and it’s always bullshit. Show me it in the store where you need to pay 35euro and you only get 1 CW event case.

Look at it at a different point of view. Giving out 1… ONE CW event case to every1 who logs in a specific day can result in a few things.

Ppl get a free event card, be happy about it even if it happens to be a good or a bad card.

If it’s good? Great, they are very happy, they might consider purchasign the 35euro (now discounted) pack for the 10case+event case in hope to get more.

If it’s bad? They are sad, but also happy, At leats they got 1 to look at. Might motivate some to purchase the above mentioned pack in hope for a better 1.

Honestly. What scenario happens with the current method? Nothing.
Ppl get either super lucky, or never get any. This results in frustration and anger, and you can bet your ass that those who don’t get even 1 case as a drop WONT purchase the 35euro pack knowing other ppl already got 4 for free.

Giving out 1 to every1 is much more profitable then giving out random amount or none at all."

Tried to quote the “worthy” posts from the previosu thread, censored out the words that needed to be consored :slight_smile:

(Backuplight) #2

Starting to think we just need a CW event case rage megathread. As I’ve said elsewhere, at great length, I concur.

(Jostabeere) #3

“Let me spam the same thread again because the old one was closed due to my shitty attitude and now only include things which I liked because I don’t accept others opinions.”
That’s how you make a biased, one-sided and aggorant discussion.
Atleast link the thread so people can see what you really wrote and how you insulted the dev-team :smile:
http://forums.dirtybomb.nexon.net/discussion/20869/teasing-with-event-rewards#latest

(Hibbsan) #4

i have said it before and i say it again, it really is crazy how much you guys whine because you are not getting any CW cards. Why is it so hard for you to understand that this is a F2P game and in order to make money they have to do things like this? They can’t give away CW cards for free just because you are not lucky enough to get one. i can promise you that no matter how much you whine about the rng, it is always going to be here. There is absolutely no way that they are ever going to remove it because thats how they make money with their limited playerbase. The Devs are trying so hard to make you guys happy with this event but you are so damn greedy. shut up with this whine every single day.

(MarsRover) #5

No drops in 11h of playing. Yeah I’m gonna call BS on this.

Something, anything for regular players that doesn’t include RNG. Get x amount of XP. Play x amount of games. But no, let’s double down on RNG! That will make them happy!

(Hibbsan) #6

No drops in 11h of playing. Yeah I’m gonna call BS on this.[/quote]

i have easily played 16+ hours, still no drop for me either. Do you see me complaining?

(MarsRover) #7

No drops in 11h of playing. Yeah I’m gonna call BS on this.[/quote]

i have easily played 16+ hours, still no drop for me either. Do you see me complaining?[/quote]

I didn’t know you’re the benchmark and arbiter of this system. Sorry, I’ll stop now.

(Hydrelion) #8

I’ve played for at least 10+ hours. No limited case, but i’m still enjoying the update because everything is discounted and there is double credits. Just enjoy it, it’s limited.

(almondFlower) #9

I’m quite enjoying it too, don’t know what my feelings will be when the event is done and I missed in the reward. But as some1 suggested (can’t recall his name sorry), an XP based system would have been good too. Like reach XY amount of XP and you can redeem a Case.

(DMaster2) #10

You do realize that people pissed off by rng will be even more pissed now? I know for sure i won’t spend a single cent now. I don’t gamble for money by principle, but i could’ve considering purchasing something if it was worth it. Now? I don’t think so. And i don’t think i’m the only one out there feeling this way. But yeah, you and the level 5 i played against today (one of the ton of games i’ve had this week) enjoy your lucky CW case drop. That level 5 may even not play anymore in a couple of months. But it’s ok no?

(DMaster2) #11

[quote=“Hibbsan;116464”]
i have easily played 16+ hours, still no drop for me either. Do you see me complaining?[/quote]
Then don’t tell people what they should do. I grinded the whole fuc*ing weekend and i’m pretty pissed right now, having wasted all this time for nothing. So yeah, good for you if you aren’t angry. I am tho.

(Backuplight) #12

I hear ya, and am pretty meh over having not gotten a drop for the entire weekend - but I have enjoyed playing. Biggest issue I have with the whole RNG nonsense in the game is that I still love the game. It doesn’t stop me from playing, but it grinds my gears something chronic.

(DMaster2) #13

[quote=“Backuplight;116654”]I hear ya, and am pretty meh over having not gotten a drop for the entire weekend - but I have enjoyed playing. Biggest issue I have with the whole RNG nonsense in the game is that I still love the game. It doesn’t stop me from playing, but it grinds my gears something chronic.
[/quote]
I had my fun, for the first 3-4 hours. After that it become a frustrating grind. I’m so much fed up that i don’t even play anymore, unless i have the missions. I literally don’t give a fuck anymore, i’m way too much disappointed with the game right now i’ve lost the fun playing it.

(Armuh) #14

I don’t get all this whining over the CW cards, at the end of the day they’re just skins and provide nothing to boost your gameplay.
If you want to avoid some of the rng you should just buy them, I don’t see how a f2p player is entitled to a single one of these cards. There has to be an insentive for people to spend money on this game otherwise it’ll close down. DB as a whole is alot more friendly to freeloaders compared to many other f2p games I have played, so stop whining.

EDIT: My bad, made a mistake about the rng.
I do agree about the fact that paying 20 quid for a random cw card is a bit much, however my point about an f2p player not being entitled to a CW card still stands.
Imo SD should make 100% skin cases available in the future for a decent price, they will probably keep to the RNG tactic because it is a consistent method of making money.

(MarsRover) #15

Please explain how to do it, with the emphasis on “all”.

(DMaster2) #16

[quote=“Armuhsin;116678”]I don’t get all this whining over the CW cards, at the end of the day they’re just skins and provide nothing to boost your gameplay.
If you want to avoid all the rng you should just buy them, I don’t see how a f2p player is entitled to a single one of these cards. There has to be an insentive for people to spend money on this game otherwise it’ll close down. DB as a whole is alot more friendly to freeloaders compared to many other f2p games I have played, so stop whining.[/quote]
Are you f kiddin me? I don’t spend 20 euros to get a random CW card, that can be for a merc i don’t like playing and can be a terrible loadout even if it’s the right merc. If i can purchase the exact loadout i would consider it, but as it is it’s a no-no. If you like wasting your money with rng, be my guest.
What makes me extremely mad is that i’ve seen since yesterday people level 5, 7, 4 even a fuggin level 2 with CW cards. Those weren’t purchased for sure. People that may drop the game in a month or two. I’m playing since almost an year and got nothing. So nice.

(Dog) #17

People are complaining because it’s entirely possible that you can participate in this event and have nothing to show for it. Even worse is that the only guarantee to show that you participated is a $35 entrance fee.

Compared to CS:GO, ignoring the obvious population difference that gives them more freedom to do stuff differently, you pay like $15(? i dunno i never bought those either) to get access to their events, and you get some stuff automatically to show that you paid for it, and you have the ability to unlock more things by participating in the event. Then, after the event is over, most of these unlockable things become open to the rest of the user base that didn’t pay for the event. Anything you unlock retains value because there’s literally nothing tied to it stat-wise, so it’s purely a question of cosmetics.

In DB, you have a limited time to get event items, and there’s no guarantee unless you shell out $35 (I’ve stated in previous threads that buying just the 10 elite cases without that guaranteed case would have ~35% of all people purchasing not receiving a single CW card, and it takes ~350 normal cases to reach that same percentage for f2p players) and after the event they’re gone, never to return. And worse, there’s the chance you’ll get a card that you’ll never use because, objectively, it just has bad augments. I have 2 CW cards that I’ll never use because they’re both outclassed by a bronze and a silver card that I have for those same classes. And to rub salt on the wound, they’re for classes I don’t play often, nor do I particularly enjoy playing them when I do.

To give an analogy, a bad CW card is like having a stylish looking coat, but it has a small thumb tack in it that you can’t remove. I may look good wearing it, but I’m going to suffer while wearing it, so I might as well wear a coat that doesn’t prick me. A bad CS:GO skin is like having an ugly coat. Sure, it looks bad, but at least I’m wearing a coat unlike those other people with nothing on.

(almondFlower) #18

[quote=“Armuhsin;116678”]I don’t get all this whining over the CW cards, at the end of the day they’re just skins and provide nothing to boost your gameplay.
If you want to avoid all the rng you should just buy them, I don’t see how a f2p player is entitled to a single one of these cards. There has to be an insentive for people to spend money on this game otherwise it’ll close down. DB as a whole is alot more friendly to freeloaders compared to many other f2p games I have played, so stop whining.[/quote]

My issue is how this event is handled and how the Phoenix “event” was handled.

Phoenix = You got it unlocked if you didnt own them OR you get an OBSIDIAN card for Phoenix if you unlocked it before the timeline.

I didn’t participate in it so I don’t have either fo them. But it was a fair event. If you worked for it and participated, you got your reward.

You can spend the entire 72 hours in game and have a very big chance you won’t get anything.

How is giving out Merc or a Obsidian card to every1 is okey, but suggesting to give a CW Event case to every1 is instantly “freeloaders entitled”?

(DMaster2) #19

[quote=“almondFlower;116708”][quote=“Armuhsin;116678”]I don’t get all this whining over the CW cards, at the end of the day they’re just skins and provide nothing to boost your gameplay.
If you want to avoid all the rng you should just buy them, I don’t see how a f2p player is entitled to a single one of these cards. There has to be an insentive for people to spend money on this game otherwise it’ll close down. DB as a whole is alot more friendly to freeloaders compared to many other f2p games I have played, so stop whining.[/quote]

My issue is how this event is handled and how the Phoenix “event” was handled.

Phoenix = You got it unlocked if you didnt own them OR you get an OBSIDIAN card for Phoenix if you unlocked it before the timeline.

I didn’t participate in it so I don’t have either fo them. But it was a fair event. If you worked for it and participated, you got your reward.

You can spend the entire 72 hours in game and have a very big chance you won’t get anything.

How is giving out Merc or a Obsidian card to every1 is okey, but suggesting to give a CW Event case to every1 is instantly “freeloaders entitled”?[/quote]
Yep. The Phoenix event was exactly the example of how these events should get handled. The meltdown event instead is utter sh*t.
Was it really hard on monday to give a free event case to each player that logged that day? No it wasn’t, and it would’ve made people happy to have at least a token, even if it’s a terribad loadout. But no, they had to make people grind for nothing and get frustrated.

(Feley) #20

[quote=“DMaster2;116685”]
What makes me extremely mad is that i’ve seen since yesterday people level 5, 7, 4 even a fuggin level 2 with CW cards. Those weren’t purchased for sure. People that may drop the game in a month or two. I’m playing since almost an year and got nothing. So nice.[/quote]

Whats even worse is, if we lets say used all that time playing for weekend on some new account, that account would already be viable for min. level 10 servers.
But yeah, same story as you…