Suggestion for EV repair

(Lisjak) #1

Hello guys,

so we have all experienced this. You go and repair the EV as an engineer and other non-engineers just stare at you with the tool out instead of defending you.

Recently I had a similar situation. A skyhammer started repairing the EV and I (as proxy) came in and started repairing. Just as I finished we both got killed by because he was staring at me instead of covering me. Here’s the great part, when I asked him why he tried to lay an egg next to me instead of defending me he said " Shut up I did repair it".

So my suggestion would be the following: If and engineer is allready repairing, anyone else trying to repair should not even take out the repair tool. I think this is the reason why people are confused because they see the tool and the bar moving forward, making them think they repaired it.

Thoughts?

(MarsRover) #2

Anything that’s more visible will be better than just a different text we have now.

(XavienX) #3

The text should say, “If you’re not a goddamn engineer, why tf don’t you protect a engineer and stop repairing like a moron cuz your tools are trash and won’t speed it up. Comprende?”

(Yes) #4

They should make it so the person constantly repairing when an engineer is repairing takes damage. :rage:

(MarsRover) #5

When frustration exceeds safe levels I ponder allowing engineers to mow down those “helpers” with FF :tired_face:

But really - progress bar disappearing and a bigger, more descriptive RED text will suffice in 90% cases. The rest is hopeless.

(SteelMailbox) #6

There are two real ways to handle this:

  1. Not letting them even try to repair
  2. Have repairs stack

Those are really the only ways I can see fixing the problem

(LifeupOmega) #7

Pubs make me wish FF was a thing sometime, so I could just shoot them and be done with it. Be it if they jump in front of me when I’m trying to finish off an enemy, or not protecting me when I’m repairing. No one will be safe.

(Seriously it needs to be explained in big bold neon letters so half the player base will understand)

(DMaster2) #8

Last time i said to a dude that makes us both killed because he was defusing with me (me engi, he assault) instead of guarding that when he saw the “teammate x” he had to go away and do something else half of the chat called me greedy (thinking i wanted the xp e_e).
Just put a goddam tutorial for engi, won’t solve everything but at least less people will stand in your way.

(Jostabeere) #9

Devs should make a better tutorial. But you as a player can share the info with newbs if you know it. Nah, better play the elitist and hate on newbs instead of explaining it. Great not being a dick attitude.
Comments like: [quote=“Lisjak;18333”]why he tried to lay an egg next to me instead of defending me[/quote] Don’t help anyone and are just stupid.
When I get such situations I explain it with teamsay and people understand it.

(MarsRover) #10

Of course I explain. But this happens again and again, and most of the time people understand when I explain. Which means people are not the problem, it’s the UI. EV repairing etc. tutorial will help, but the UI needs to change.

(FireWorks) #11

There is a core mechanic at work that nowhere in the game is explained: Repairs dont stack. There is zero explanation for this. There are enough other games out there and especially the older SD titles where more engs would speed up the process.

As veteran of any SD title youd think you can do good.
There is no thing telling them otherwise.

New to dirty bomb, you only know that you should work towards the objective.
You start repairing as Sky and its slow. Suddenly someone jumps in and helps you, it shows “Teammate repairing” (if you even notice the small text) and suddenly the work is done much faster.
Conclusion: 2 work faster than 1. Like it ever has been. Why should you assume otherwise?

Worst thing about it: Escorting it with multiple people does stack and speeds up the process.

Its the core mechanics that need explanation for the game. SD fails at it now, so we as community gotta do it. Spread the word. In /allchat for everyone on the server to potentially learn. “Repairs dont stack in Dirty Bomb. If it says ‘teammate repairing’ someone else does the repair job and you should be better protecting him.”
You could also explain that engineers (objective specialists) override the normal and slower repair mercs.

(farmakoxeris.exe) #12

no offence , but they are not confused, they are blind or idiots, cause u all know… TEAMMATE REPAIRING instead of REPAIRING…
i wish this was their only problem…
feel free to rage with me: http://forums.dirtybomb.nexon.net/discussion/17256/enough/p1

(Jostabeere) #13

[quote=“farmakoxeris.exe;88635”]no offence , but they are not confused, they are blind or idiots, cause u all know… TEAMMATE REPAIRING instead of REPAIRING…
i wish this was their only problem…
feel free to rage with me: http://forums.dirtybomb.nexon.net/discussion/17256/enough/p1[/quote]

Because that “teammate rapiring” explains anything and is clearly visible. It doesn’t say “teammate repairing, you don’t”.

(Glot) #14

Imho, repair should stack, this also goes to defuse. Sometimes you need cover from teammates, sometimes you have no time, and have to risk being shot, bt to repair the object (last seconds in Chapel EV path)

Right now it is very counter intuitive, especially dirung a fire fight.

  1. You repair
  2. Proxy starts, you cannot repair
  3. Proxy is killed, so now you can repair
  4. Proxy is revived and continues to repair, so now you again cannot repair.
    this is very frustrating everytime. and you literally have no choice but to play this repair tool jugglery (few seconds left, and you want to win, remember?)

The only realy right way is to return multistack repair\defuse.

(K1X455) #15

That’s why I’m opting to use RaidCall or TeamSpeak3 cause if was to use the in-game voice feature of the game, I’d be very rude if I start yelling at them at the top of my voice. I give room for being a novice, but it’s on a very short fuse.

(frolicsomeCrane) #16

That’s a great idea. +1

(farmakoxeris.exe) #17

I could not agree more! DEVS please! Also when someone is planting/defusing could work just fine!

(Nail) #18

taking away a team mates health is NEVER a good idea, solution is simple, only engis can repair or defuse

(Aazhyd) #19

That was taken out a couple of upgrades ago.

(Black) #20

Why dosent a pop up come saying: “Defend the engineer” come up?

Or even give players points for defending a engineer repairing.