They have manufactured a reason, its quality is rather questionable.
Keeping players in the dark only breeds discord and whole “harassment” reasoning is completely bogus. If there would be any merit to it, then 99% of internet forums would simply die out.
While “forums being respectable enviorment” idea is nice and everything, its impossible without strict moderation, good ruleset and harsh punishments… that are not present. Even basic anonymity that internet provides to its users, and general difference in opinions and ages, leads to people having absolutely no respect to other people due to simply reason that they are not motivated to do so. Its far easier to tell some1 to sod off, rather than trying to have a reasonable conversation, not to mention that its universal.
Stop complaining about the new AC.
[quote=“Jurmabones;70653”]What if it crashes occasionally for the next month? 3 months? Until official release? Should we all wait still to give any feedback? How do we determine when exactly we should be able to give feedback anyways? Who exactly has the right to dictate to others when they’re allowed to give feedback or not anyways? Why should there be a complete lack of feedback on the anti-cheat in the first place simply because it’s new? You see the problem with what you’re saying already but let me continue.
It’s not like I’m saying anything untrue or being inflammatory with my posts. I’m not threatening to quit, I’m not name-calling, I’m not on some smear campaign. I’m not even calling the game bad, I’m simply pointing out what’s completely observable. I’m simply calling the new anti-cheat bad.
If people kept making posts about how WONDERFUL and GREAT the new anti-cheat is gee whiz thanks splash, none of you would be in those threads telling them “Hey, it’s new, stop giving feedback! Just be patient, even if you’re happy with it!” No! You’re only here bothering people willing to point out the bad. You’re falling for SD’s/Nexon’s damage control and contributing to it yourself by trying to police other users’ posts.
I play this game daily and have supported SD/Nexon/Dirty Bomb heavily, I’m not some casual free-to-player who’s just griping. I’ve spent more money on it and more hours per day on it than I care to admit right now. I really do enjoy Dirty Domb, and I do put up with the hackers. I put up with whatever issues I’ve come across because the game is fun and I want it to succeed, which is precisely why I’m taking the time to make these large posts in addition to the time and money I spend on the actual game. Getting complacent and keeping quiet is never going to contribute to the game’s potential long-term success.
The most obvious, glaring issue in this game is hacking. I will admit my claims that the new anti-cheat is already a failure is a bit premature, but considering they released it in a state such that it crashes, tells me the new anti-cheat was released more to appease players than because it was ready to be released. I’m saying all this because it seems pretty obvious to me that it is the case and that I’ve spoken to many players who feel precisely the same way. I don’t see any upside to withholding my opinion but there’s plenty of upside to sharing it.
I want this game to do well, and forgoing my ability to provide relevant criticism will only contribute to the game’s potential long-term failure. As I asked at the beginning of my post, who is to decide and how are they to decide when it is okay to give feedback and what exactly is considered legitimate feedback? There is no logical or fair way to put a time frame restriction on player feedback, that’s just stupid in the first place. Why would you even ask your customer base to not tell you what you think is wrong with their game any way?
Now, I’ll stop posting about the anti-cheat for a while since I’ve at least got evidence a dev actually saw what I’ve said for now, and not to mention avoiding all the responses from people trying to burn me at the stake for having something other than low expectations.
But know this: in the day and age of free-to-plays with DLC and microtransactions being the dominant business model, throwing time and money at a game but never speaking up about your opinion will always leave you with a bad game that has no future in it.[/quote]
Perhaps I chose the wrong words, of course your feedback is appreciated and everyone is entitled to share theirs. But your intention was to let the development team know of these issues(Which is noble, I to would do it if not for the following reason), and mission accomplished… though not by you. See, the problems you’ve talked about are things many people are already saying, they know what’s going on and having people keep telling them the same thing over and over isn’t truly feedback. But so far this dev team has done great things for this game, by next update the anti-cheat will be better… maybe not fixed entirely, but better all the more. I’ve seen a lot worse from a lot more successful companies(No offense Nexon, love you!) and as such I’ve had the same mentality as you when it comes to things not working or being fixed for a large amount of time.
So in the gist of that all I am trying to say is while feedback is obviously great to have, having hundreds of people say the same thing doesn’t help get it fixed sooner.
Naming and shaming is by any means an unacceptable thing if it’s done by the community. Defamation and slander are bound to happen in this context for whatever bad relationship between players reasons. And those are strong rights offences in most countries, and are regarded as such since the Roman. I’m not even mentioning the fact that no one should be allowed to do justice by himself, even with unquestionable evidences.
Anyway, anyone deserves to be judged without being put in front of the public place, so naming and shaming by the devs (see Survarium for example) is also subject to question.
As for the competitive scene, the only hope is that everyone will get judged with equity by uninvolved and competent tourney authorities.
If someone is even thinking that having new AC will block all cheaters instantly and we will never ever see a cheater in this game, it would be about the time to get back to the earth.
It’s good to have dreams, but there’s a difference between dreams and reality.
A game without cheaters is a dream, but unfortunately that kind of game doesn’t exist. Cheaters are everywhere, in every game, especially in online games. If you would like to play a game without cheaters, playing alone some kind of single player game might be the best for you. Though I’m not surprised if somebody is cheating even in Tetris.
(And now I’m not pointing with this comment to anyone in this thread, this is mostly general opinion of mine.)
New AC can only decrease the amount of cheaters, but it will never completely stop them.
When new AC programs are getting developed and released, all the time newest cheating programs are getting improved as well.
Fight against cheaters will never end.
[quote=“MissMurder;70558”]The crashing security violation thing is unfortunate and we are working on it as fast as possible.[/quote]I hadn’t had this happen to me at all in spite of a very heavy weekend of playing. Then today, I’ve had it twice. First time I shrugged off and rejoined, second time and I just don’t feel like playing anymore. Hope this gets fixed soon.
Saw a guy blatantly cheating and openly admitting to it, as he stood in the center of Underground destroying everyone.
You should definitely be giving feedback. But just make sure it’s constructive and not repeating known issues over and over. Being overzealous with positive comments is just as damning as yelling that the sky is falling too early. So give it time guys 
New AC is amazing. I’m having fun reading posts on hack forums that their hacks are detected and they are being kicked/banned. Really good work! Through, there are still ways to not be detected now, sadly. But overall, very good.
Why not? I’d say know your enemy, else you will be talking shit in forums like “I’ve played over 200 hours and never saw a cheater”.
I speak with no knowledge whatsoever but if I was to run a hack community I wouldn’t let someone access the forum without purchasing the hack first.
And you think these crying kids would be able to download hacks for this game when they are behind massive trust/paywalls? You got access to google?
PS: I’d take some pc you don’t work-on to be on the secure side.
Btw: Seems there is a new wave around. So let’s hope soon is soon, and we can report them from in the game, before they learn to hide it.
The forums I’m reading are public. You can read what they’re posting, but you can’t download without having an account there. And trust me, It’s fun seeing some guy working on a new version of his ‘hack’ and few hours later reading about how it’s starting to be detected.
Yeah, they released a new version not so long ago.
From what I’ve been reading, the “normal way” is detected, but some know how to avoid that.
I would write more info, but I’m not sure if its allowed here.
Why would you even have access to those.[/quote]
I’m a regular on mpgh. shrug[/quote]
Yeah, since mpgh is more than “just a hack/cheat” forum.
Whether or not the AC works is of little concern to me, and should not be a concern of other players.
The important thing is the efficiency and response time of the report system.
Reports should be checked everyday.
AC can’t always catch hackers, but other players can.