Starting to plan QuakeWars 4 Dummies .... err Newbies

(Bongoboy) #21

Respect and Props to the Ifuritollah, I say!

(Loffy) #22

I admire your logical and sequential descriptions and your ability to put it out to web-surfers and mappers alike with a pedagogical touch. I am thinking of, for example, your short but well written “things that I learned during my x first days of mapping for ET”-text.

In essence, the main thing is that you have decided to do it. Whatever comes out of it, will be of high quality and easy to read and understand.

Personally, I agree with the folks above that state that a scripting-section would be nice. Scripting is the thing that brings maps to life and there will obviously be some changes in ETQW.

(McAfee) #23

lets hope battle sense and the likes havent changed much this time around
:smiley:

(mortis) #24

Digibob said the scripting language for ETQW is much more powerful and less convulted than for Wolfy. We all would benefit from a comprehensive script writing tutorial.

(Ifurita) #25

I doubt that I’ll be doing any mapping for QW, so if you’re looking for maps scripting tuts, it’ll probably fall on someone else’s shoulders

(nappy) #26

I’m still waiting on Quake Wars 1.

(BrightSoul) #27

Why don’t you show help screens/tips DURING the installation process? Of course I would like to know what the basics are (Shift to run, no stamina bar, RB to alternate firing mode, L for limbo menu, etc…). Even if these might be obvious, you can’t really tell what degree of newbiness is the person installing the game. Also, not everyone has played an FPS featuring vehicles.

After these, I would like to know what I can do with each class. A brief, but complete list of what each can do. You know, it took me a while to learn that an ET cov.ops. could spot mines ^^ And that’s because us males are less prone to ask for informations or bother reading manuals :evil:

(Unless you have to wait for the installation to complete)

(Ifurita) #28

How about, “a game some people might refer to as BF2”

(TX_RED_ANT) #29

Iffy…

I would say an explanation of why when people are yelling at you to quit shooting them in the back, or why when u tap after a med has strafed half of the map to get to you, why you shouldn’t tap out. LOLZ Either way a good addition is always been “etiquette”

ANT

(SlippytheWeasel) #30

While waiting for it to load?

How about War and Peace, the extended version. :wink:

Slippy

(Flesh) #31

You know, technically, we will all be Newbies the firist time we play QW :wink:

(McAfee) #32

Yeah, but most players can go pass that stage in a timely fashion. While others pretty much stay that way unless they receive 3rd party aid.

(Ifurita) #33

I plan to pull the etiquette section from RTCW 4 Noobs forward, with the appropriate updates:

Being a Good Newbie
Updated for Enemy Territory
While I can only speak for the RTCWOnline.com and the Planetwolfenstein forums, as far as I can tell, newbies (slang term for new people) are always welcome there. Hang around either one of those forums, and many others, play with us on a couple of servers the regulars frequent, and you will learn how to play RTCW and Enemy Territory in a good, supportive, team environment - the way it’s supposed to be played. However, as the new player, you have certain responsibilities:

RTFM - You have to learn the basics. We can help you out, but please take the time to figure out the basic controls, what each class does, and how to zoom with the sniper rifle. We’re willing to teach, but we’re in-server to play a game, not teach RTCW 101. A good place to start are the game documents (find these in the /docs folder) and this web site.

Take time to spectate for a while. However, keep in mind that most of the ‘good’ servers stay pretty busy and are almost always full. If you spectate for more than a couple of minutes, you’re taking up a valuable slot that someone else could be using. This isn’t the Victoria’s Secrets Web Show.

Team killing is inevitable, but if you’re going to indiscriminately shoot your panzerfaust or flamethrower into a crowd of teammates, you’ll find that people aren’t going to be too jazzed to help you out. Newbs should probably stick to the basic guns first. Additionally, a little bit of trigger control and common sense will go a long ways.

The corollary to the previous point is that you are going to get killed by team mates. THINK TWICE, VOTE ONCE. If the positions were flip flopped, would you want someone else to file a complaint against you? Did they deliberately team kill (TK) you or did you wander into one of their marked mines? You know, those little flags sticking out of the ground. As a basic rule, I almost NEVER file a complaint, unless it was 100% clear that the other person maliciously TK’d me.

Remember the law of averages. On some days, you’ll have great games with amazing teamwork. On other days, you’re going to get owned like a Christmas fruitcake. However, on average, you’re going to have a great time playing. Don’t let the great days go to your head and don’t let the bad days get you down.

Start a server on your own, gain a basic familiarity with the more common maps, and give each class a spin. Wander around the maps a little and learn where the objectives are. It will do wonders for your when you realize that you actually know where people are going and from where they’re calling “Medic!” While in your own server, try out each class and figure out what each key does. The friendly spawn point during your first on-line game should not be where you figure out that the funny green grenade is an airstrike cannister.

Don’t spam for medics or ammo. Most seasoned players on a server will be pretty proactive in finding you and feeding you health and ammo. Remember when you ask for ammo a sign apears above your head so be a bit patient and you will get what you requested. Continuous spam is highly annoying and a good way to ensure you don’t get anything.

Resist the temptation to go for glory. The game is about teamwork and not individual points or experience. In fact, don’t even think about the points - that’s the fastest way to improve your game. Every newbie who wants to be John Wayne is just another body I have to fight my way into No Man’s Land to revive.

Be a good sport. Common courtesy goes a long ways. Be nice to your fellow team mates and your opponents, because in later games, they’ll also be your team mates. Just avoid being a jerk in general. Act as if you were in a room with live people. Say “hi” when joining a server, “bye” when leaving, and remember that “thank you” and “sorry” go a long ways.

Don’t automatically assume that other people are cheaters - it gets old fast and kills your credibility. You’re going to see a lot of people do things you never imagined were possible. Watch and learn.

Have fun! Remember, it’s a game and nothing more. If you’re losing, it’s not the time to start screaming abuse at everyone. When you start losing your cool then it’s time to take a break. Never resort to team killing it achieves nothing and you will only find your name being remembered in the server for the wrong reasons.

Never be afraid to ask questions (but do some basic research first). You can bet your ass someone knows the answer. There are lots of good forum communities out there chock full of people who will help you improve your game. So sign your name up, introduce yourself, and kiss goodbye all your free time.

(signofzeta) #34

When I’m usually given a new map, I host a LAN game with that map and I pick engineer, or objective vital classes, and run it through solo. Then when I get the feel of where everything is, then I play online with other people.

The problem here is that some people may not know the “brains” of the people of some servers.

In Wolf ET, I played in one server, and got to know their rules. I decided to try out another server, it seems people there shun those who don’t build CP’s first or “accidently revived the wrong body” because as my brother was playing he mistaked an allied field ops for axis medic, where he’s an axis medic. Mistakes happen.

As my brother was playing, I told him to not to shoot there, he did and our account got kicked from that server, which is the best server I could find. Of course that spot is one of the spawns. Looks like I’ll be playing solo now.

What I don’t like about some people is that their rules are no spawnkilling, of course my brother stripped me of my game, but I can go back to the old server, is that they kick people who spawnkill, but they themselves spawnkill. The server I got kicked from has no hypocrite people so I don’t mind the kick. It just means I don’t have to be “addicted” to wolf ET.

In RTCW, especially in xbox live, some people are just arses who kick people who become better than him. 187 showtime is an example and the 187 rival clan BDP hate him. They claim he used to be nice though. Since the 187 showtime server is the only server, I have no RTCW xbox MP games to play so I play solo with no one.