Splash Damage's message on Reddit, about Phantom.

(Eox) #1

Just in case you missed it : https://www.reddit.com/r/Dirtybomb/comments/3cjh9m/in_regards_to_phantom/

Hey everyone. We wanted to touch base with you about Phantom, how we worked him and what our plans are going forward.

We spent several weeks playing with the latest Phantom internally everyday (as we do with each new Merc) and tweaked and changed him over that time. Unfortunately our internal playtime is instantly eclipsed within 30mins of releasing any Merc into the live environment so things aren’t going to be right straight away. We do want to get a ‘test realm’ set up where public players can get hands-on earlier. This will give us a lot more information on how new Mercs/features will work on a larger scale.

We do have less work-intensive and controversial Mercs we could have released before Phantom, but we decided to get him out as early as possible so we have as much time as we can to get him in to shape. Invisibility is always going to be very hard to balance in any game, and melee especially difficult in a multi-player FPS.

We’re definitely keeping a very close eye on Phantom, but we want to wait for things to settle a little before making any drastic changes. It takes a while to learn how to best play against each new Merc (a good example of this is Rhino) and we don’t want to knee-jerk react after a day’s play.

We accept that the current situation isn’t ideal but, given time, we’ll do our best to resolve it :slight_smile:

(Daergar) #2

That post contains far too much logic and sound reasoning to be acceptable. Live testing during the beta phase being more useful than limited internal quality control? Preposterous!

(Ghosthree3) #3

It’s like…they almost…knew what they were doing to begin with.

Did reddit lie?

(avidCow) #4

Rhino was never a big deal, was he? Big slow target with a fat head.

(watsyurdeal) #5

[quote=“Ghosthree3;41982”]It’s like…they almost…knew what they were doing to begin with.

Did reddit lie?[/quote]

To be fair, they had basically both ends of the spectrum last time.

In the times they introduced him, he went from being overpowered, to underpowered. They prob felt completley confused as to what to do.

So they’re prob going to treat him like the demo man in tf2, the king of nerfs over the next month and he’ll still be rock solid.

(Nail) #6

no nerfs needed, slight tweaks to cloak timing will be all that’s needed

(XavienX) #7

Yea, it’s really just the cloak that needs a little bit of tweak.

(APRenpsy) #8

I want them to change the katana, honestly think the cloak is fine.

This on the other hand. Well I admit it is funny XD

(avidCow) #9

That’s funny but it’s also sad.

(Ardez1) #10

People were raging about Rhino being OP. Then either the complainers left or they learned how to fight it.

Phantoms release has been a bit more intense… so far… As far as complaints go. Hopefully it will settle. I am actually excited to see the dead phantoms pile up when his free rotation starts.

(APRenpsy) #11

People were raging about Rhino being OP. Then either the complainers left or they learned how to fight it.

Phantoms release has been a bit more intense… so far… As far as complaints go. Hopefully it will settle. I am actually excited to see the dead phantoms pile up when his free rotation starts.[/quote]

Walk back shoot head, was funny cause I went 28/9 with Vassili killing only phantoms try to kill me…

(PlayingUndead) #12

Hahah, I love that response. “Hey dudez, uh, ah, it’s… a beta? Alright toodles <3”

Nah but seriously, glad they’re replying and not trying to go full iron curtain or anything. It’s really nice just to see them reply, and honestly I’d call this a pretty speedy reply, although one might say that’s because they knew this little flare-up could happen and were ready for it. They are game designers after all, can’t imagine it never crossed their minds.

(Eox) #13

People were raging about Rhino being OP. Then either the complainers left or they learned how to fight it.

Phantoms release has been a bit more intense… so far… As far as complaints go. Hopefully it will settle. I am actually excited to see the dead phantoms pile up when his free rotation starts.[/quote]

Walk back shoot head, was funny cause I went 28/9 with Vassili killing only phantoms try to kill me…[/quote]

It doesn’t actually work that well if you encounter a Phantom with half a brain. Gotta get your KEK-10 brain meltdown.

That guy is just so frustrating to deal with and just spoils the fun to a lot of people, me included. I can agree that he’s not as overpowered as he looks, but so far dealing with that guy is really as pleasent as a having a colonoscopy.

(Gi.Am) #14

I must say everytime SD reacts to community outrage I like them more.
Wait and see how things look after the dust has settled and than apply nerfs/buffs as needed. Worked pretty good with Aura, Fragger and Nader so far.

(Eox) #15

[quote=“Gi.Am;42062”]I must say everytime SD reacts to community outrage I like them more.
Wait and see how things look after the dust has settled and than apply nerfs/buffs as needed. Worked pretty good with Aura, Fragger and Nader so far. [/quote]

I must admit that it was pretty well handled.

(avidCow) #16

People were raging about Rhino being OP. Then either the complainers left or they learned how to fight it.

Phantoms release has been a bit more intense… so far… As far as complaints go. Hopefully it will settle. I am actually excited to see the dead phantoms pile up when his free rotation starts.[/quote]

Yes, they did. But you wouldn’t normally see people charging around and dominating with him unless he had a pocket medic, which is actual teamwork synergy and not lolshield and a beyblade.

(PlayingUndead) #17

Hey @avidCow, have a like, have my like because you managed to fuse Beyblade into my memories of Phantom, and that’ll never go away.

(litheJacket) #18

i dont need nerf i need remove. i don’t care how much hp he has they can give him 250 hp. All problem with phantom is he is ghost. Phantom can kill you 1 seconds with katana or headshot but you can’t fight back because you can’t see him before he attack you. i love this game too much i never crying op about rhino or any mercs but phantom… it’s just unfair.

(avidCow) #19

@PlayingUndead

Thanks, but I give original credit to MrBoojangels video :slight_smile:

(stealthyBass) #20

But you can see him. Pay more attention.