Look, dude, no matter what you claim, history has /proven/ that OBJ based games in online shooters in a public capacity are more often than not ruined by people who simply farm their K/D ratios all day every day.
You can make claim after claim of why this will not happen in Brink, but it’s been happening forever.
And it doesn’t matter that Brink is so far apart from the types of games that usually suffer this, the K/D ratio focus would tempt people into this type of play.
You have to realise that there will always be a large percentage of people in any game who are in it to win it. They want to top the boards in the way that makes them look the most badass. Killing is the most badass way to top a board, if that’s not an option then they’ll go for anything… thankfully in Brink, the best way to do that is to heal and revive your team.
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Smart players know that k/d means nothing when your w/l is terrible. If the other team is loaded with idiots who wish to farm KD and lose every match and get crap experience, isn’t that great for you and your friends?[/quote]
And again, you miss the entire point of defending the OBJ and team based nature of Brink so adamantly… it would be /awful/ to come across a team in this game who were playing like that. Why? Because the experience for everyone gets better the /more/ people are playing it as intended.
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I just flat out disagree. Brink is such a far stride from the KD games that they won’t find a fragfest here. There are so many elements of the game that already defeat that mentality and it just doesn’t work in practice. You can’t sit and camp kills in Brink, teams will steamroll you (at least my friends and I do). To me it just sounds like someone who is afraid of seeing their own KD. The only people i’ve ever heard complain about those stats, are those with negative KD. And not even all of them complain about it. [/quote]
Any FPS game that awards kills with a score board acknowledgement will run the risk of OBJ based play being ignored. I’ve already been in games where groups of people were taking too long with OBJs just to frag it out over and over on the same spot while a couple of us waltzed up to the point and won. The mentality is always there, Brink does its best to discourage it.
It won’t be perfect, frag fests will still occur, they just won’t define the experience.
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But again I can live without kills or death. Wins and losses I think need to be in there though, this is a game about winning right? Or did I miss something again?[/quote]
Not sure why wins need to be counted. If you’re in a game you know who’s won, and it doesn’t matter how many matches you’ve won in a row unless you’re playing comp and then you can count that yourself.
I’m not saying no, just that I don’t see why you think it’s required.
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Thats a great attitude! Just pick up your ball and go home! Nobody can play with you if they disagree no sir! [/quote]
Scroll up, friend, you took this exact attitude and I was merely countering it with the reality.
Splash Damage have a game that they’ve made to their ideal and they’re not going to compromise it to suit those who don’t get what they’re trying to do.
It’s not a big deal, you don’t need to be offended. If it doesn’t suit you there are plenty of products that will.
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But seriously. You should be promoting anything that adds popularity onto this game. I personally would love Splash Damage to be rewarded with the sales figures of even a percentage of MW2 (which for a time held the record for the fastest selling entertainment product of all time).[/quote]
There’s a reason that generic sells well and more specific products do not. SD aren’t idiots, if they wanted to appease the crowds and go for the big bucks they wouldn’t have made Brink the way they did.
What we should be celebrating is the fact that dev companies exist who defy the norm and try to create unique IPs.
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Again I don’t want this to turn into COD, I LOATHE COD. Which is why I made a compromise on the KD thing. I don’t really care about “Kills and deaths” but I do care about a nice XP breakdown to at least detail our efforts. We earned it.[/quote]
i wish you’d just come to the thread and taken that stance. Instead you started an argument you didn’t even care about, and it showed via your obvious lack of care with your responses.
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You say “us” like those of us who currently play Brink and still enjoy Brink and would enjoy it more if more were added, aren’t part of some secret club you made.[/quote]
I say “us” like those of us who appreciate what SD are trying to do. It’s not a secret club, anyone is welcome, but don’t expect to join and change the wallpaper because you want it to look just like the other club you’re a member of.
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This is a video game. A fun one at that. Why would you ever want something kept so bland? Because you’re worried about some idiot who wants to sit in a corner with a sniper rifle?[/quote]
Since when did omitting K/D mean the game is bland? Since when did awarding kills more than team play make the game bland?
Here is yet /another/ example of you making a point that has absolutely zero bearing on anything I’ve said so far.
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Being good at shooting is also a part of Brink, and if some idiot wants to try and farm kills, then raise your weapon and show him what a BAD IDEA IT IS.[/quote]
This is not a fix for anything other than dented ego on an individual level.
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You can’t farm kills in Brink. A smart team will buff up and roll over you, then complete their objective and win.[/quote]
Smart teams aren’t the standard in pub play. Which is why Brink is set up in such a way that guides a team that lacks cohesion to compete in a team based fashion.
Brink’s entire set up is geared so you don’t even /need/ to coordinate your team, if you play the game as intended everything will simply fall into place.
This is what makes Brink so unique, its set up is a funnel that guides you to complete the OBJ and to support your team and to play in a way that, over time, you’ll become more adept at and will become second nature so - over a few months - the matches in brink will get more and more fluid and the game will truly come to life.
