[QUOTE=kamikazee;324457]No, I mean a day-by-day list of peak players since the game’s launch, not some forum thread with people complaining about the “current players” counter at 11AM when nobody’s playing…
Otherwise, how can you know for sure the number of players is really going down?[/QUOTE]
I have checked every day for a week and every day there is a drop in peak players. Oh and believe it or not Euro’s make up a majority of the brink community now. Some of the lowest active numbers are during US prime time.
That’s great and all, but you need proof if you want to claim that the playerbase is shrinking. Looking at a given count at a given time can be highly deceiving.
Who wants to start a spreadsheet with player counts for each day of the week?
Every game has a drop of players in the first few weeks of launch. Due people except big things or don’t buy still bought it to join the crew.
And when the game releases all these people play for couple of hours and realise… They don’t like it at all due the “issues” and just stop playing it instead of waiting for the patches.
Go there and check. This game can only be played via steam so those numbers are 100% accurate. Unlike nonsteamwork games where it represents only part of the community. BRINK IS A STEAMWORKS GAME.
Day 1 BRINK had over 25k players. Remember this is primarily a multiplayer game. So the drop should not be as drastic as a single player focused game.
I’m not saying the numbers are wrong, but fearlessfox taking the numbers at 14:40 (UK) in afternoon during a weekday, which is about 9am east coast US is a bit skewed. Numbers need to be taken at various times and averaged out. Again I’m not saying the numbers are wrong, but that simple snapshot is not accurate.
Lol BFBC2 has been holding steady around 10,000 players online per console/pc, sometimes more sometimes less but right about there for the better part of the games life span> When it released though the numbers were way higher, on steam at one point there was 91k for BFBC2 and only 84k for MW2. On consoles it was the same if not more and quickly dropped off after a short time. All i can say it what i have already said, it happens, been there and doen that, but when you KNOW the game has potential you stick by it to the end and in most cases are rewarded for your diligence.
BFBC1 was not the greatest game, if many made up their mind off that game there wouldnt have been a BFBC2. That shows how much having an established franchise can carry you, and to this point i dont see where Brink is lagging so far behind BFBC2 when it was only 2 weeks old. To this point I find more things I like in this game that i wish were in BFBC2 then the other way around.
[QUOTE=Oschino1907;324629]Lol BFBC2 has been holding steady around 10,000 players online per console/pc, sometimes more sometimes less but right about there for the better part of the games life span> When it released though the numbers were way higher, on steam at one point there was 91k for BFBC2 and only 84k for MW2. On consoles it was the same if not more and quickly dropped off after a short time. All i can say it what i have already said, it happens, been there and doen that, but when you KNOW the game has potential you stick by it to the end and in most cases are rewarded for your diligence.
BFBC1 was not the greatest game, if many made up their mind off that game there wouldnt have been a BFBC2. That shows how much having an established franchise can carry you, and to this point i dont see where Brink is lagging so far behind BFBC2 when it was only 2 weeks old. To this point I find more things I like in this game that i wish were in BFBC2 then the other way around.[/QUOTE]
Bad company 2 is around 20k for ps3 and pc, and 10-15 for xbox. Stats.
I am sticking by Brink. I play Brink and I’m not taking my copy back. I’ll buy DLC and continue to tell my friends to try it.
However, I’m not going to spend all my free time playing a game that, on ps3 at least:
Runs with muddy engine
Runs with a laggy netcode
Has poor matchmaking
Has no VOIP options aside from those tied to obscure modes that no one plays
It’s a frustrating experience, how are you supposed to co-ordinate a team without any means of communication? Even thought Brink is somewhat organic in pushing the game toward the objective, it’s not perfect in this regard.
[QUOTE=Oschino1907;324629]Lol BFBC2 has been holding steady around 10,000 players online per console/pc, sometimes more sometimes less but right about there for the better part of the games life span> When it released though the numbers were way higher, on steam at one point there was 91k for BFBC2 and only 84k for MW2. On consoles it was the same if not more and quickly dropped off after a short time. All i can say it what i have already said, it happens, been there and doen that, but when you KNOW the game has potential you stick by it to the end and in most cases are rewarded for your diligence.
BFBC1 was not the greatest game, if many made up their mind off that game there wouldnt have been a BFBC2. That shows how much having an established franchise can carry you, and to this point i dont see where Brink is lagging so far behind BFBC2 when it was only 2 weeks old. To this point I find more things I like in this game that i wish were in BFBC2 then the other way around.[/QUOTE]
What you forget is BFBC2 is not a steamworks game. SO therefore what you see online is only the people who bought it through steam and are playing it. Unlike BRINk which you have to install it via steam no matter where you purchased it. So the numbers shown represent the entire population on PC.
Global PC StatisticsPlayers at bfbcs: 2,827,654 Players online: 20,116Servers: 6,364
Global XBOX360 StatisticsPlayers at bfbcs: 3,199,102 Players online: 11,961Servers: 3,878
Global PS3 StatisticsPlayers at bfbcs: 2,502,884 Players online: 18,193 Servers: 3,696
Number from when this post was made. Def higher then it was as recently as February/March when i was last playing daily (then my blu ray when poop on me), seems the number have been climbing back up to shortly after release levels (especially for time of day) but thats something i would expect considering the low price now and hype building up for BF3, but i used to check the stats almost daily when i played so i KNOW for sure the current player numbers are new players/people picking it back up and getting ready for BF3. LOL i will prob be back on there sooner or later myself.
The guy asked me how to prove the numbers were dwindling, and I gave him a link to the stats, showed that it’s obviously an issue as it’s a prime topic of debate, and told him to keep an eye on it to see for himself so he could see.
@Fearless Fox, not trying to be a dick but seriously stop trying to argue for BFBC2 or even trying to compare it to Brink when you literally just picked it up and tried for the first time within the last WEEK! You sir have ZERO room to talk about a game you just picked up after its been out over a YEAR and compare it to something thats been out barely 2 WEEKS. Be on BFBC2 from the start and then tell me about it, yes numbers where higher cause a bunch from the COD crowd came and ruinined it for a short while, now its goin on again, i hop on BFBC2 from time to time but more non teamplaying lone wolfing douches by far then Brink has. More players doesnt mean better community, not at all!
My comment was with regards to current stats, the ‘guy’ wanted evidence of dwindling since launch. I explained why a single snapshot at poor time of the day isn’t accurate portrayal of current stats… which you didn’t explain at all = poor explanation.
I’ve been playing games for years, and my experience in this genre is extensive. From the original Doom, to Quake online… to Unreal GOTYE to Halo PC… TFC, GOW, ET:QW, BF PC, etc…
I’m only saying this to show I have enough experience to be able to play a game for a short time and read up on its history and have an educated idea of how the evolution from release to current day state occurred.
Many of us are well experienced in this regard, it’s not impossible for someone to make a comparison like I have and to understand the aspects enough to do it well.
Anyway…
The comparisons between Brink and BC2 were made to highlight a couple of things.
How a game can be released with bugs and massive errors and still be considered great across the board.
How a game can survive despite being released in such an awful state.
I’ve already stated that BC2 had more to back it up. It had previous well known titles that were received well overall and hold very high average scores and it had a more generic style that appealed to more players.
And for whatever reason, the game survived.
The relevance to Brink was to help flesh out the question “will Brink make it?”.
Brink doesn’t have the luxury of a previous incarnation or IP that’s well known en mass and successful to boot.
Brink doesn’t have the luxury of mass appeal as it’s quite a niche title.
Brink was released in similar states to BC2 and other titles, but those other titles got great reviews while Brink received a heavy mix of good and bad. And it’s not just review sites not “getting” the game like others claim, I could go to the sites that rated it low and pick out dozens of obscure niche titles the reviews in question have scored high.
There is also a converse thread:
Brink has a lot of innovation that could pique people’s interest.
There are enough people in the world who consider OBJ based play to be ideal for Brink to succeed.
The comparison wasn’t made to prove BC" is better than Brink, it was made to put a little weight and direction behind a potential discussion.
Still no matter how you look at it, a game that’s just been released and that as touted as a definitive MP experience that doesn’t feel as alive as a year old game is not a good sign.
There’s only so much SD can add to Brink to help this, and as they’ve already had a year to apparently do this and failed (relatively), how can we hold faith that they’ll succeed?
Eh… it feels like you’re just picking on that now.
I explained that I can’t provide the evidence because I can’t find a link. I did, however, give link to a place where the guy could do his own research and draw his own conclusion.
Bottom line: guy asked for evidence of dwindling player base, I gave him the tools to do the research.
The initial post might not have been handled well, I’ll admit.
@Fearless Fox, Yes i too have been playing FPS games since those days, Wolfenstein on, played alot of pc up until around 2000, but if playing for so long and so many games has taught me anything its that you cant really judge a game after its been out for a long time. If you arent there from day one (or even before back to its development) then you really can have no perspective of what it was or was not like outside of other peoples view. I am trying to give you mine but apparently your web searches and educated guesses hold more value then the experiance of someone who was there.
The image in the quote is “top games by current player count” and Brink is at 22nd position. It doesn’t just show current player count, but also peak today.
