Something to look forward to

(ouroboro) #41

I “live and die by it” because I strongly prefer it. How is my preference funny? As you said, ETPro leaves the game largely intact, so my preference is really for etmain with essential bug fixes and improvements. Is etmain funny? (OK, don’t answer that. :P)

On the other hand, XP save is completely foreign to the game. There’s a reason XP is reset after 3 maps: eternal skill upgrades are detrimental to gameplay.* The fact that the majority of players prefer it is only to be expected. Once they’ve earned it, they want to keep it forever; they don’t want to fight for it again. Gamers as a group are perhaps the most selfish and lazy people in the world. They will give up nothing voluntarily, even if it is demonstrably bad for the game as a whole. As long as it’s good for them as an individual, wild horses couldn’t drag it from them. In real life, people make concessions for the greater good (e.g. taxes), but gamers cannot fathom this concept. It must be forced upon them by server admins. Imagine if there were no such thing as XP save. I believe ET as a whole would be a much more exciting game to pub. It would certainly be a more balanced game, and infinitely more fun for newbies.

Of course it does, at least for the individual. The very reason some of us are not comfortable with certain mods is because they require rather extensive configuration to find the W:ET hiding underneath all their bling.

I have nothing against you or your mod. The few times I’ve played it I was glad to see the ETPro influence. But every time I see something goofy added to a mod (UT sounds, etc.), I have to find a way to disable it. When I can’t disable it (doublejump, poison needles, etc.) my only option is to leave. These things are a turnoff, so I don’t bother trying anymore.

ETPro is warm and fuzzy, just like Bani. :smiley:

*If everyone is started with full skills, that’s a different story. It’s clearly a balanced game in that case, although I’ve yet to see a map that could comfortably handle several fully-levelled Field Ops, etc. So even if you balance the skills, you have to balance them to a sane level – or start making new (huge) maps.

(Joe999) #42

i’m with nail on that one. it’s usually the kids who talk 'bout stuff like “what rank are you?” … “i’m general” … and then go :eek:

imo mature peopz don’t give a $#!t about a permanent rank, all they want is having a good time while they have a cig n such while they eg lay in the gold chamber equipped with a mobile mg waiting for the allies to come in … :smiley:

ps lol @ nail’s answer: it’s always fun to beat people with their own words :smiley:

(jah) #43

hacks nowadays are so refined that they can bypass punkbuster, auto-update themselves AND they even have somesort of cdkeys (if you lend the hack to someone it stops working). it’s a business.

in w:et you’ll even find dedicated servers for cheaters, i remember seeing a couple of them on ASE. beeing a free game, w:et has a lot of people using hacks. but the witch hunting is paranoia at it’s worse.

and hackers stating that they’re developing hacks for et:qw isn’t that suprising. just grab the doom3 engine code and wait for the rest of the source code when the game is released, or even the beta.

the thing is, et:qw will have cd-keys and therefore a lot of people will think twice before installing a hack and ofcourse the age of the players will rise a bit (w:et has too many 13 year olds playing) since it won’t be a free game, and that will help reducing players with hacks a bit.

there will always be hacks and people using hacks, but free games like w:et will always be the biggest victims (less control, less support, no cdkey banning, more immature players, etc).

J

(jaybird) #44

The very reason some of us are not comfortable with certain mods is because they require rather extensive configuration to find the W:ET hiding underneath all their bling.

Not really. I don’t know about ETPub, as I haven’t set up a server with it in quite a while, but with Jaymod, the vast majority of added features are disabled by default. Bugs will be fixed, but essentially dropping the mod and firing it up will get you a server w/o all the extras.

I’d call that personal

It was hardly personal, and certainly not intended as a personal insult. It was a direct response to this tirade:

“little boys stroking their e-penis with 10,000 xp” servers

That was very immature and doesn’t help your argument whatsoever. You mean to tell me that anyone who prefers a server with xp save enabled are “little boys” who actually give a shit if they have more XP than another guy? You are sadly mistaken. And…

you think your mod is great, I think it sucks

What’s that all about? My mod has nothing to do with this conversation, yet you bring it up as a jab at me. Quite immature.

So what I said was no personal insult, but if you insist on considering it so, then we’ll call it even.

If you want to go out on a limb and criticize a whole sub-community of players, that’s your perogative, but do not turn this into a middle-school style shit slinging contest.

Oh, and…

ps lol @ nail’s answer: it’s always fun to beat people with their own words

Hardly.

(1_ZeUs) #45

Nail

ET doesn’t have xp save, mods do

Ah, but ET is based off of what game? I remember it being RTCW, where you do save skill from map to map

Ourboro

I “live and die by it” because I strongly prefer it.

YOUR choice, not a regulation of everyone who plays for fun or competition.
Mods, as well as new maps are for new choices in the game. I suppose you all still play the original 6 maps only, as you don’t want to discover new versions of them or new maps.
Why not go back to the original subject of this topic and quit slinging single minded opinons to everyone else.

(1_ZeUs) #46

Ah, good point, but been a member for over 5 months, just going thru the map making section. :nag:
Why not just get back to the original topic? Or do you just like the drama? Have to put in your .02 also? :bored:

(DemonTheKiller) #47

I am 42 and love playing on XP save games, does this make me childish? lol

I also play ETPro with the TWL for Competition game play, I don’t like this mod, its too slow and like running in tar, but thats my opinion. But that is what TWL users, so be it

Mos days you will find me playing on a server with XP save and Jaymod as its a lot more fun to play then ETPro and that why I play games online, so I can have fun

(DemonTheKiller) #48

[quote=“Nail”]

xp save = NO etpro, not meaning to diss your mod, but afaik, etpro anti-cheat works[/quote]

How Does XP save relate to cheating, as most cheater, on our server get kicked or banned, so they dont get much XP, They do get a lot of headshoots tho

(jfu Sander) #49

Insert big rofl here
U guys are fun, Main Q why do u play ET i think everybody says fun
Well some ppl have fun in just playing
other need great stats and scores
Etpro = more for the 2nd one
Jaymod = more 1st but ppl that can frag like jaymod to
A lot of servers run on jaymod so stop whining about it everybody likes ET but to make it better u can chose server and mod, theirs only 1 ET and few mods and a lot of servers so its easy to whine about mod, but its sad

And on etpro are more cheaters i think bc wenn ur new join etpro and u suck bc other ppl are good then u will find a way to get better learning to play or hax, and who gives a F*ck about anti-cheat stuff Only thing u need is good admins and admins are the things i miss on most etpro servers

**And for the real etpro hoolis that still are whining about jaymod, with their facts that are based on opnions **
Did you just had a bad score and are pissed off???
Or was their a panzar on your server and bc u only can play as medic u didnt got flak jacket he???

(Wils) #50

Thread has turned to garbage.