Well deserved score I would say if you are an effective medic. personally I don’t see the big deal considering levels affect literally nothing.
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onLooSe
(onLooSe)
#22
This is the Aura OP, pls nerf thread. I get it. Wow you were on defense this game… in 8vs8 with no other medic. I bet you as fragger were constantly on this so stupid healing station?
Man for my 600 hours in game I have probably 500 +25 assists medals… MINIMUM as being decent medic.
Sorotia
(Sorotia)
#23
[quote=“steelMailbox;146627”][quote=“Amerika;146617”]What’s wrong with that picture is you can’t see how many revives they have. Getting revives, health insurance and badges for tons of revives contributes greatly to a score. You can get a pretty decent positive k/d score yet still not score that many points. You only start really bringing in points if you have a bunch of badges to go along with it (triple, quads and aces along with godlikes and other stuff). Same can be said for medics. They don’t have to be rambo to get a decent score because the system allows for them to play full on back of the line support yet still have the scoreboard treat them as if they are as good/better than the people getting kills.
So yeah, the only thing wrong with the scoreboard is it not showing revives and medals for revives. Sure, healing does give XP but it’s not what is carrying the score.[/quote]
Still something is wrong when a player gets so many points just by pressing Q and E.[/quote]
Well if you want to be technical, as a Fragger all you’re doing is clicking your left mouse button and pressing 4 (or whatever keybind your grenade is)…so you’re doing less than a Medic 
SteelMailbox
(SteelMailbox)
#24
[quote=“onLooSe;146642”]This is the Aura OP, pls nerf thread. I get it. Wow you were on defense this game… in 8vs8 with no other medic. I bet you as fragger were constantly on this so stupid healing station?
Man for my 600 hours in game I have probably 500 +25 assists medals… MINIMUM as being decent medic.[/quote]
Not even close. This thread isn’t asking to change Aura in any way shape or form but to change health insurance to something that can’t be ridiculously abused like this, even cutting the amount of XP gained in half would be fine. Yes of course I was on that healing station, I need to keep myself alive after all. And it is a pub, honestly I joined 8V8 for quick credits since I needed to buy cases for trade ups I don’t care if there was a medic or not.
I already explained about assists.
[quote=“Sorotia;146643”][quote=“steelMailbox;146627”][quote=“Amerika;146617”]What’s wrong with that picture is you can’t see how many revives they have. Getting revives, health insurance and badges for tons of revives contributes greatly to a score. You can get a pretty decent positive k/d score yet still not score that many points. You only start really bringing in points if you have a bunch of badges to go along with it (triple, quads and aces along with godlikes and other stuff). Same can be said for medics. They don’t have to be rambo to get a decent score because the system allows for them to play full on back of the line support yet still have the scoreboard treat them as if they are as good/better than the people getting kills.
So yeah, the only thing wrong with the scoreboard is it not showing revives and medals for revives. Sure, healing does give XP but it’s not what is carrying the score.[/quote]
Still something is wrong when a player gets so many points just by pressing Q and E.[/quote]
Well if you want to be technical, as a Fragger all you’re doing is clicking your left mouse button and pressing 4 (or whatever keybind your grenade is)…so you’re doing less than a Medic [/quote]
lol, I liked that. But honestly I have skill combined with it for the part of clicking your left mouse button to actually be able to aim and nades I said once and I will say it again need more skill integrated to them.
Just my thoughts, excuse me for thinking this is a skill based game.
onLooSe
(onLooSe)
#25
[quote=“steelMailbox;146645”][quote=“onLooSe;146642”]This is the Aura OP, pls nerf thread. I get it. Wow you were on defense this game… in 8vs8 with no other medic. I bet you as fragger were constantly on this so stupid healing station?
Man for my 600 hours in game I have probably 500 +25 assists medals… MINIMUM as being decent medic.[/quote]
Not even close. This thread isn’t asking to change Aura in any way shape or form but to change health insurance to something that can’t be ridiculously abused like this, even cutting the amount of XP gained in half would be fine. Yes of course I was on that healing station, I need to keep myself alive after all. And it is a pub, honestly I joined 8V8 for quick credits since I needed to buy cases for trade ups I don’t care if there was a medic or not.
I already explained about assists.[/quote]
You do realize that if there isn’t an decent medic or even whatever medic you will get destroyed, right?! I don’t get your teamplay in this teamplay oriented game guys… Seriously! I want to play Fragger or nader or whatever from time to time too but I really can’t! I join game and every god damn time I see us losing and have to switch to medic… Forced… forced… no medics to be found. This isn’t enough incentive! I don’t care about the XP, I just feel forced to do it. I’m tired of it and after every other game I say to myself: “no more of this!” I go fletcher with 5 proxy in my team and get destroyed…
SteelMailbox
(SteelMailbox)
#26
[quote=“onLooSe;146646”][quote=“steelMailbox;146645”][quote=“onLooSe;146642”]This is the Aura OP, pls nerf thread. I get it. Wow you were on defense this game… in 8vs8 with no other medic. I bet you as fragger were constantly on this so stupid healing station?
Man for my 600 hours in game I have probably 500 +25 assists medals… MINIMUM as being decent medic.[/quote]
Not even close. This thread isn’t asking to change Aura in any way shape or form but to change health insurance to something that can’t be ridiculously abused like this, even cutting the amount of XP gained in half would be fine. Yes of course I was on that healing station, I need to keep myself alive after all. And it is a pub, honestly I joined 8V8 for quick credits since I needed to buy cases for trade ups I don’t care if there was a medic or not.
I already explained about assists.[/quote]
You do realize that if there isn’t an decent medic or even whatever medic you will get destroyed, right?! I don’t get your teamplay in this teamplay oriented game guys… Seriously! I want to play Fragger or nader or whatever from time to time too but I really can’t! I join game and every god damn time I see us losing and have to switch to medic… Forced… forced… no medics to be found. This isn’t enough incentive! I don’t care about the XP, I just feel forced to do it. I’m tired of it and after every other game I say to myself: “no more of this!” I go fletcher with 5 proxy in my team and get destroyed…[/quote]
You’d be surprised if I tell you medic isn’t a necessity for winning.
srswizard
(srswizard)
#27
As a Sawbonez main who runs around reviving, healing and slaying left and right like crazy, it pains me to see these newbie Auras sit in one chokepoint for the whole match, and then receive the same, or higher, XP for it.
Obviously the enemy is the one to be blamed for not targeting the health stations, and this kind of noob Auras don’t get anywhere in matches where the enemies are even half competent.
Really, though, there are bigger issues in DB, so I’d leave this as it is, for now.
AlphaUT
(AlphaUT)
#29
Before you talk about medic earn XP too easily, have you ever think about how easily health station can be destroyed ? There are many mercs like Storker, Nader, Fragger, Thunder (let it stop working for a while) , or even proxy’s mine. All their abilities can destroy HS so easily.
DO YOU REALLY THINK IT"S A PROBLEM THAT MEDIC CAN JUST GAIN THAT MUCH XP SO EASILY JUST BECAUSE HE/SHE IS A MEDIC ?
Medics’ life aren’t just farm the XP, they revive the teammates, and they help you to avoid that long spawn time. She was just doing her job. That’s all. SO DON’T COMPLAIN ABOUT IT. THEY DESERVE IT.
After all, why do you care about the XP ? Is it going to give extra HP or ? BTW, in that game, she only had like around 1000 exp more than the second place. what’s the matter ?
Eox
(Eox)
#30
This happens to me everytime I go with Sawbonez. It’s perfectly normal : it shows that you were doing your job.
onLooSe
(onLooSe)
#31
[quote=“steelMailbox;146649”][quote=“onLooSe;146646”][quote=“steelMailbox;146645”][quote=“onLooSe;146642”]This is the Aura OP, pls nerf thread. I get it. Wow you were on defense this game… in 8vs8 with no other medic. I bet you as fragger were constantly on this so stupid healing station?
Man for my 600 hours in game I have probably 500 +25 assists medals… MINIMUM as being decent medic.[/quote]
Not even close. This thread isn’t asking to change Aura in any way shape or form but to change health insurance to something that can’t be ridiculously abused like this, even cutting the amount of XP gained in half would be fine. Yes of course I was on that healing station, I need to keep myself alive after all. And it is a pub, honestly I joined 8V8 for quick credits since I needed to buy cases for trade ups I don’t care if there was a medic or not.
I already explained about assists.[/quote]
You do realize that if there isn’t an decent medic or even whatever medic you will get destroyed, right?! I don’t get your teamplay in this teamplay oriented game guys… Seriously! I want to play Fragger or nader or whatever from time to time too but I really can’t! I join game and every god damn time I see us losing and have to switch to medic… Forced… forced… no medics to be found. This isn’t enough incentive! I don’t care about the XP, I just feel forced to do it. I’m tired of it and after every other game I say to myself: “no more of this!” I go fletcher with 5 proxy in my team and get destroyed…[/quote]
You’d be surprised if I tell you medic isn’t a necessity for winning.[/quote]
Go play lottery for millions! You will be surprised if I tell you that you don’t need frags to grab a win… not even one for your whole team! It surely can happen!
Sorotia
(Sorotia)
#32
[quote=“steelMailbox;146645”][quote=“onLooSe;146642”]This is the Aura OP, pls nerf thread. I get it. Wow you were on defense this game… in 8vs8 with no other medic. I bet you as fragger were constantly on this so stupid healing station?
Man for my 600 hours in game I have probably 500 +25 assists medals… MINIMUM as being decent medic.[/quote]
Not even close. This thread isn’t asking to change Aura in any way shape or form but to change health insurance to something that can’t be ridiculously abused like this, even cutting the amount of XP gained in half would be fine. Yes of course I was on that healing station, I need to keep myself alive after all. And it is a pub, honestly I joined 8V8 for quick credits since I needed to buy cases for trade ups I don’t care if there was a medic or not.
I already explained about assists.
[quote=“Sorotia;146643”][quote=“steelMailbox;146627”][quote=“Amerika;146617”]What’s wrong with that picture is you can’t see how many revives they have. Getting revives, health insurance and badges for tons of revives contributes greatly to a score. You can get a pretty decent positive k/d score yet still not score that many points. You only start really bringing in points if you have a bunch of badges to go along with it (triple, quads and aces along with godlikes and other stuff). Same can be said for medics. They don’t have to be rambo to get a decent score because the system allows for them to play full on back of the line support yet still have the scoreboard treat them as if they are as good/better than the people getting kills.
So yeah, the only thing wrong with the scoreboard is it not showing revives and medals for revives. Sure, healing does give XP but it’s not what is carrying the score.[/quote]
Still something is wrong when a player gets so many points just by pressing Q and E.[/quote]
Well if you want to be technical, as a Fragger all you’re doing is clicking your left mouse button and pressing 4 (or whatever keybind your grenade is)…so you’re doing less than a Medic [/quote]
lol, I liked that. But honestly I have skill combined with it for the part of clicking your left mouse button to actually be able to aim and nades I said once and I will say it again need more skill integrated to them.
Just my thoughts, excuse me for thinking this is a skill based game.[/quote]
Well…it does take some skill to revive people…you’ve got to run up to people and revive them without getting taken out yourself…sometimes even if you’re the kind of medic who hangs back…you have to use your weapon to save the person you’re trying to rescue.
Plus if you’re a medic you generally have a big target on your back…especially if you’re good at keeping your charge from having to go back to the respawn point.
zealousHumdinger
(zealousHumdinger)
#33
How about this little nugget? I didn’t want to kill anyone at all, the 2 kills were accidental hits with the Dreiss. It is nothing but occasional smoke and incessant spotter exp spam (I hope they don’t nerf Redeye)
Arty is of course god.
Bottomline, objective game rewards objectives. 
SteelMailbox
(SteelMailbox)
#34
I think some people didn’t understood me, I do think medics should get rewarded for being medics, but they shouldn’t get this rewarded for being just medics.
onLooSe
(onLooSe)
#35
Just medics?! That Aura was the only medic in your team! Imagine if she wasn’t there. Do you think you would have survived enough encounters to get your score? I doubt it… Also check the enemy team man. That Aura RIGHT THERE surely didn’t deserved her spot too? Yeah right… Teamplay my ass…
Level 4 medic second scoring in my team… WTF! I would have been in heaven.
Arjun
(Arjun)
#36
@steelMailbox - First of all , the points by pressing these Q and E and exactly the number of HP it heals . If you and your fragger teammates were so good and didn’t took so much damage or stop dying, she would not have got so much XP . Plus she was the only support Medic in the team which could possibly be the only reason you even Won .
I don’t even understand whats the point of whining against a good medic who actually cares to heal people .
[quote=“steelMailbox;146649”]
You’d be surprised if I tell you medic isn’t a necessity for winning.[/quote]
This is just like saying Engineer is not necessary to plant or defuse C4 . Or an Assault class is not necessary to kill people !!! Whats the point of classes ??
I have over 100+ hours as Aura . What if i say , i can get more kills as Aura than you with Fragger in a particular match ? Its totally possible
@srswizard - Aura doesn’t have a powerful primary weapon like crotzini or has a med kit to run around and slay people . Nor does she have enough HP to tank any of the other mercs . So ofc she has to put the station at a chokepoint ( i mean whats the point of putting it in the open ) and stay near it . She is designed as a defensive merc . And yeah maybe for the whole match it was at the same position because whats the point of changing the position if the enemy is too noob to realise and destroy it at first hand . Also it allows teammates to have a common fallback position when pushed or get hurt . Trust me i’ve seen enough people running around the map and yelling “Where did you put the f=king healing station”
doxjq
(doxjq)
#37
I don’t understand @steelMailbox how it isn’t right. I can’t even recall how many times I’ve had 20,000+ XP in a game with Sparks and single handedly won the game for the team at the end of the map by reviving 30+ people in 2-3 minutes on the last stage of Chapel for instance.
If you ask me every single XP was well and truly deserved. You keep them alive so the other team can’t do their thing. It’s that simple. If anything that role alone is more important than being a slaying class and killing 2-3 people. Keeping 5-6 alive > killing 2-3 enemies if you ask me :neutral:
SteelMailbox
(SteelMailbox)
#38
You know what I gave up. I just gave up on you all. You keep saying the same things and I keep answering them and it is just this one big thing that is so annoying to try and do over and over so IDC if the mods close it at this point in fact I hope they do since this already got to my nerves explaining the same thing.
Feley
(Feley)
#39
Playing medic =/= Being medic…
I just see medic teammates running over me, than check the score, and they are still first… Just cause they tapped someone on revive, that that someone killed enemy, and medic recieved Heath insurence xp… Also that same person, cause of lazy medics will die again (with his 30 hp) and this time be forced to wait for long spawn… And medic, he/she will get xp nevertheless, altough they did the bad thing.
Now don’t get me wrong. I’ve seen toneful of great medics, which deserved every single XP point, and there are lots of those, but on the other hand there are medics which will recieve tons of XP for stuff they shouldn’t recieve XP for…
As for healing. Medics get very good amount from healing which is deserved in every way, but still, I don’t get that 10 seconds health insurence xp. (It should be at least like 50% of xp earned from teammates, or duration of 5 seconds)
That way, good medics will still be top scoring and will be rewarded for being good medics, but bad medics (which will just tap you so you recieve 30 hp, or put an healing station to heal herself and remove it once someone steps on it) and still get 10 seconds worth of health insurence? Kinda unfair IMO.
watsyurdeal
(watsyurdeal)
#40
It’s almost like a Fragger getting rewarded for playing a Fragger
Or a Skyhammer being rewarded for being a Skyhammer
As far as I’m concerned if Medics are the ones with the most kills…your team isn’t doing their part.
What I see in the op is nothing wrong