Someone please explain this to me.


(NthLegion) #1

According to the stats on the Brink wiki, the Maximus LMG is basically a Gerund with a larger clip. They supposedly have the same per-bullet damage and ROF. However, my kills/hour with the Maximus are significantly higher than with any other gun I’ve used, and it really seems like the Maximus is doing much more damage than an assault rifle.

Some of the difference is clip size and increasing game skill, but not all of it. Is there some other hidden stat for heavy weapons? Is the wiki mistaken?


(its al bout security) #2

maximus is much more powerful and belive me accurate.
gerund has sniper accuracy for 2 shots than its impossible to hit an escort bot from a sneeze distance


(Ark_peasant) #3

The Maximus deals more damages on the torso hitbox (32 instead of 30 for the Gerund) and is less accurate.

The Gerund deals less damage on the torso (30 instead of 32 for the Maximus) and is more accurate.

Source : DenKirson on Brink

IMO, the most important difference is the fact that the clip size is more than doubled (x2.5) on the Maximus, it allows you to kill from 2 to 3 enemies (4 if lucky) in a row without having to reload, at medium to close range, without aiming that well or firing short bursts.

Also, the +2 dmg on the torso hitbox ends up being +150 potential-torso-dmg-per-clip.

The low accuracy of the Maximus is perfectly adapted for the Brink gameplay : running enemies, short-range action. You can run in the melee and spray everyone, while you can’t really do that with the Gerund.


(NthLegion) #4

I’ve been paying close attention to my kills with the Maximus since I first posted. I think you’re right in that clip size is the deciding factor. If the enemy gets clustered together, a single clip can take down 4 or even 5 enemies.


(its al bout security) #5

look even with muzzle break and front grip the gerund gets worst acuraccy in a spray


(Super-Pangolin) #6

I agree about the clip size being what makes the Maximus being so destructive. Using standard mags on both, you’re lucky to get 3 or more kills without having to reload on the Gerund.


(its al bout security) #7

nice to see you made the swtich from that play pin over at bethesda.

any ways youll find the maximus is much more powerful.

ny ways these damage figures people have are decieving what if its been patched to do more and these averages people make from the stats sight are now incorrect??


(NthLegion) #8

I think I saw a dev mention that no weapon tweaks are live yet. I assume they would let us know when weapons get changed. They’ve been pretty good about detailing the other updates.


(crazyfoolish) #9

afaik they are not live yet.


(tokamak) #10

Hahahhaha no.

The only thing this ‘weapon’ has going for is clip size. Which is absolute nonsense. You chose between the three machine guns depending on how much combat efficiency you want to pass in favour of clip size.


(crazyfoolish) #11

[QUOTE=tokamak;335316]Hahahhaha no.

The only thing this ‘weapon’ has going for is clip size. Which is absolute nonsense. You chose between the three machine guns depending on how much combat efficiency you want to pass in favour of clip size.[/QUOTE]

Since when did clip size not affect “combat efficiency”?


(Super-Pangolin) #12

[QUOTE=tokamak;335316]Hahahhaha no.

The only thing this ‘weapon’ has going for is clip size. Which is absolute nonsense. You chose between the three machine guns depending on how much combat efficiency you want to pass in favour of clip size.[/QUOTE]
I thought the Maximus did more damage per-bullet than the Gerund… it also has pin-point accuracy for the first 1 or 2 bullets ADS. And I’ve never paid attention, but it does feel more accurate than a Gerund after prolonged full-auto fire, I find bursting with the Maximus isn’t as much of a necessity.


(tokamak) #13

32 to the Gerund’s 30. Woopidoo.

We’re comparing a MACHINE GUN to an ASSAULT RIFLE here. It’s bollocks.

All heavies get to do is hold the trigger a bit longer.


(Ninjat_126) #14

That said, I love the Maximus. It’s reasonable accurate and has a big enough clip to mow down more than one person. I preferred it to the Gerund and Gottlung.


(Kalbuth) #15

Isn’t the Maximus a liiiitle bit like good ol’ GPMG, and has a rather vertical recoil? It’s probably my imagination, though, but that’d make it a lil bit more precise. I found it better suited for medium range fight than the other heavy weapons


(Jess Alon) #16

Gerund can’t spray therefore I won’t use it. I will use the rhett which is deadly in bursts at a distance and can go full auto from the hip up close.


(NthLegion) #17

[QUOTE=Ark_peasant;334598]The Maximus deals more damages on the torso hitbox (32 instead of 30 for the Gerund) and is less accurate.

The Gerund deals less damage on the torso (30 instead of 32 for the Maximus) and is more accurate.

Source : DenKirson on Brink
[/QUOTE]

If the info in the link above is correct, the accuracy of the Maximus isn’t really that bad. In fact, it’s a little better than the Rhett’s. I know the numbers don’t necessarily translate to the
in-game experience, but the Maximus does seem to fire like a large assault rifle when ADS.


(its al bout security) #18

i think that assigining numbers and figures to these guns are total shams.

PROVE to me these figures are correct, just throwing data out there with no other shown scientific data is a total no no, there are many steps in finding these numbers and these averages are just crap i dont like them because of the major deceit that are packaged with them.

i used to box, 32 punches>30 sorry bro


(tokamak) #19

There’s nothing unreasonable about that data.


(NthLegion) #20

If you actually take a look at the link, you’ll see that the numbers were derived used debug commands in the console. There’s no reason to believe they aren’t accurate.