Some impressions on ET after a time of absense


(_IRON_MAN_) #21

BlackDeath,

As you already know, there are no control options in the game that allow a player to go prone instantly. If you must talk, say something that does not make you look like someone who uses an instant prone cheat, or just look like a dink. Be nice. Take a bath daily. Pray regularly. Eat your vegetables.

I’m outa here.

Cheers!


(CM..Punk) #22

Uh huh. Kiddo, I understand that your immaturity compulsively causes you to try to put down someone who says they have done anything, but it just reveals yout true character to say that just because I killed someone they must have had a lower ping (lower???) or were inexperienced, which makes no sence anyway, since a lower ping is a benefit. If you want to be argumentative for the sake of satisfying your adolescent mindset, at least make some sence. You crack me up.

OK, I was trying to tell you, as somebody who’s been that Axis player with the MG on Oasis quite a few times, that I fear a rifle grenade a heck of a lot more than a Panzer, hence you might wanna try it. But you’re insane, so I’m gonna give up now.


(BlackDeath) #23

Ironman, post a demo showing this so called “prone cheat” in action. You claim to see it so often, I think we can all expect one posted in a few days.

Our society is based on evidence. You cannot make accusations or assumptions without the data to back it up. Your here to convince us that these hacks exist, we are not here to convince you they don’t.

By showing us a demo you will:

1.) clear up any misconceptions about said point

2.) Help to prove or disprove your point

Although I would be OVERWHELMINGLY surprised if you posted, im not counting on it, based on your previous cheating accusations. You like to accuse, but can’t provide any evidence supporting your points.


(_IRON_MAN_) #24

BlackDeath,

Your society? lol You mean the society of you and the sissy panty losers that use such cheats and constantly attempt to belittle anyone who says they see them, as all players do, and challenge them to provide a demo of what you see every other time you play? Geeeez kid. You need a reality check. I know you think you are smart, but you just hurt yourself in the process kiddo. I betchat that the more that you try, the greater the lesson you will learn in your older age though. So mayber there is some twisted value in your efforts. Wait till you are over 40. Your eyes will start opening and you will shake your head at you childish, insolent mannners.

Out of here for good. Enjoy kids.

I take that back. I think people are either basically good or basically evil. Anyone who constantly lies and ties to belittle others to provide themselves with the illusion that they are bettering themselves must be evil. So, go back to hell kid.


(Kendle) #25

IRON_MAN, there is no “prone hack”. The animation you see of the other player going prone is different to what they see. To you, when you go prone, it looks like it takes a bit of time. To anyone else, you appear to go prone almost instantly. It’s always been that way. The problem is a lot of players are using prone in firefights nowadays, as it certainly does put the enemy off.

Also, not wishing to inflame another argument, but you do realise your last sentence almost perfectly describes you? You constantly lie and belittle other people. That seems to be your sole purpose in being here. :???:


(_IRON_MAN_) #26

Kendle,

Your reputation for senceless antagonism precedes you. How about this. How about you lie because everyone knows that some players use instant prone when there is no option for it in the game.

I do honesty pity you. Truly. I wish I could have been there to help you a few years ago when you were a troubled teen needing direction. Perhaps that might have helped you not become such a sissy liar on the net and make a fool of yourself for no good reason.

Anyway, I can’t change the past. And frankly, at 43 yrs age, I have no inclination to. The thrill of out-performing kids your age at chess or games was over with a few years ago. Been there, done that. Learn from your elders kid: no garbage you spew passes. It’s transperent. You have much to learn young man. Unfortunatley, you do not posess humility, which will make your travel through mortal life much more difficult. Alas, I cannot change this for you.

Sick Boy, your avatar tells everyone who you are. A smartmouthed loser. You look and talk like the fatherless kid down the block that is always in tourble with the law. So, I understand your sissy Eminem attitude. Life goes on though. YOu can change befoire it’s too late.

CYA in anothet thread, where you will undoubtably follow me. K? Till then.
Later


(Sick Boy) #27

not only the last sentence, I thought

Geeeez kid. You need a reality check. I know you think you are smart, but you just hurt yourself in the process kiddo. I betchat that the more that you try, the greater the lesson you will learn in your older age though. So mayber there is some twisted value in your efforts. Wait till you are over 40. Your eyes will start opening and you will shake your head at you childish, insolent mannners.

was a pretty good self-analisys too.

And quit the “I’m over 14” act, Ironman, nobody believes it, and if it were true, you’re attitude would be even more embarrassing


(SCDS_reyalP) #28

In etmain (and most likely shrub) prone is always instant. The players hitbox changes from full size to prone size in a single moment (see src/game/bg_pmove.c:PM_CheckProne). I seem to remember bani mentioning that in etpro, the hitbox actually lerps from full size to prone size.

Since hit detection is done using axis aligned bounding boxes, what the model does is completely irrelevant.
Some information on the bounding boxes: http://www.et-center.com/?page=articles&id=43

Actually in etmain, there is a bug in antilag that makes prone not exactly instant. In effect, it is actually faster than instant, operating backwards in time. :moo:
See: http://bani.anime.net/banimod/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3234 and http://www.splashdamage.com/index.php?name=pnPHPbb2&file=viewtopic&t=7391

Note to IRON_MAN… if you wish to dispute any of this, I suggest you cite lines of code. That should be amusing.


(_IRON_MAN_) #29

SCDS_reyalP,

Actually, you are trying very hard to convice someone that this cheat is a sympton of a mod. Keep trying kid. I like to see you make yourself dumd. Perhaps you need to be on a MOHAA thread blathering such garbage. Aftrer all, that’s where this sissy cheat began.

Later my good friend!


(Kendle) #30

LOL, I’m 40 years old, and almost certainly older than you.

Although I have to admit, I actually admire your ability to continue arguing a point even AFTER you’ve been proven wrong. Keep it up, these forums had started to dry up lately, and you’ve certainly bought the fun element back. :smiley:


(Kendle) #31

Oh, and I nearly missed that bit. Please post that demo of the “panzer hack” you discovered, in which you displayed your ET “talents” to the amusement of us all. And please, please, please, please, please, join a server I play on sometime, I really want to learn to be as good a player as you :wink:


(_IRON_MAN_) #32

No Kendle, I am over 40 my boy. Once more, your mouth exceeds your mind. Enjoy! Keep following. I offer you wisdom. Take the pebble grasshopper, if you can.


(BondyBoy007) #33

Well you certainly dont act it mate, calling people kiddo or boy and referencing their lack of maturity all the time - I think you have some serious issues :wink:

but keep up the good work Ironman, as Kendle says it has been a bit dry without you


(Kendle) #34

IRON_MAN, I can’t quite put my finger on it, but you’re not quite as much fun as you were last time you were here. You defeat your own arguments with your own ignorance too easily. You give up and resort to insults too quickly. You’re too eager to behave as you accuse others of behaving. Pretty much convinced you are indeed the same I R O N M A N who provided us with such entertainment last time, but this time you seem to have lost some of your comedy value. Maybe it’s just lack of originality.

Keep trying though, I especially like the bits where you pretend to be all wise and knowledgable, despite the overwhelming evidence to the contrary. More of that please. :smiley:

edit: Actually, reading back this thread, I think I know what’s missing.

In this thread IRON_MAN talks about a “prone hack”. OK, that’s worth a chuckle, as we all know what he’s refering to, and we all know it’s not a hack. But then, after he’s proven wrong, he immediately switched to “insult” mode.

The I R O N M A N of old would’ve gone on to explain why this “prone hack” exists, how it works, who uses it, and why, gradually digging himself into a deeper and deeper hole as his arguments became more ridiculous, thereby providing us with even greater comedy value.

He’s not doing that this time. Shame :frowning:


(Sauron|EFG) #35

Anyone that fits three or more categories have my sincere admiration. :notworthy:


(bubba g) #36

Your reputation for senceless antagonism precedes you

Who does this make me think of? Well maybe the person who wrote:

If you must talk, say something that does not make you look like someone who uses an instant prone cheat, or just look like a dink.

Your eyes will start opening and you will shake your head at you childish, insolent mannners.

I do honesty pity you. Truly. I wish I could have been there to help you a few years ago when you were a troubled teen needing direction. Perhaps that might have helped you not become such a sissy liar on the net and make a fool of yourself for no good reason.

Sick Boy, your avatar tells everyone who you are. A smartmouthed loser. You look and talk like the fatherless kid down the block that is always in tourble with the law. So, I understand your sissy Eminem attitude. Life goes on though. YOu can change befoire it’s too late.

But water and a ducks back spring to mind. So instead, lets have the first verse of Ironman!

Has he lost his mind?
Can he see or is he blind?
Can he walk at all,
Or if he moves will he fall?
Is he alive or dead?
Has he thoughts within his head?
We’ll just pass him there
Why should we even care?

Seems quite fitting. Oh, and don’t call me kid - you’d need to be about 20 years older to even come close.

B.


(Kendle) #37

Not quite sure he fits option 4), and remains to be seen whether he’s a 2) or a 3), but definately 1) and 5) IMO.

Trouble is, he’s only been back a few days and I’m getting bored already. Insults may pass away the odd boring afternoon, but for real belly laughs we need IRON_MAN to answer the following:-

  1. When did he first discover the “prone hack”?
  2. How did he identify it?
  3. In what way can using the “hack” be distinguished from simply pressing the prone key? (I think as a public service he should answer that one at least)
  4. How does this hack work? (technical explantion required so ReyalIP / Lekdevil / Rain / Bani can get in on the fun)
  5. When will he be posting demos of the “hack” in operation? (presumably accompanied by a demo of someone simply pressing their prone key as a point of reference)

That’s the kind of stuff he used to do, and that’s where the true comedy value of the legend that is IRON_MAN comes from.


(CM..Punk) #38

sissy panty losers that use such cheats and constantly attempt to belittle anyone who says they see them, as all players do, and challenge them to provide a demo of what you see every other time you play?

So let me get this straight, you’re saying we all use these cheats, and all other players see them? I’ve been playing ET since it’s release and I’ve NEVER seen a person cheating, apart from when they get kicked by PB or ETPro for it. Yes I’ve seen players go prone, but I made the wild assumption that they had pressed the prone key. What is so unusual about asking for a demo to prove there’s a cheat for it? We’ve never seen it, you’re saying it’s everywhere, so prove it.

(This is where you say you don’t need to prove anything, and we’re childish sissys).


(Kendle) #39

CMPunk, we’ve challenged him repeatedly to provide demos of cheats (that he’s caught), and he never has.

He posted someone else’s demo once, showing a wallhack, which some of us had already seen and besides which no-one’s ever denied there are cheats anyway, just not all over the place like he claimed.

He also posted a demo of a “panzer hack” which showed a Panzer firing in less than a second. He was humiliated when it was pointed out to him that the Panzer fires in 0.75 seconds. Mind you, that one was good for a laugh cos it was his demo, and showed what a crap player he is. Not that playing ability validates or invalidates anyone’s opinion, but he’s often claimed to be a good player (and has done so again in this thread), but his demo proved otherwise.


(puubert) #40

I think IRONMAN is right, I’ve found the prone hack. It’s built into ET so it can never be detected. You can see in the following screenshot how to activate it.

He’s not even trying anymore. Trying to pretend that going prone is a hack, and there’s no command for it. That’s just too easy to disprove. We want a challenge!!!