So what do you think about the MK46? (Possible nerf/balance?)

(Mr-Penguin) #21

It’s not bad, it’s just subpar.

(god1) #22

It’s not bad, it’s just subpar.[/quote]

Considering Thunder is supposed to compete for Fragger’s spot on a 5-man lineup it is bad, Thunder should have the stronger gun of the two since his ability is inherently much weaker.

(Szakalot) #23

It’s not bad, it’s just subpar.[/quote]

Considering Thunder is supposed to compete for Fragger’s spot on a 5-man lineup it is bad, Thunder should have the stronger gun of the two since his ability is inherently much weaker.[/quote]

this is true,

its definitely not dreiss-level bad though. Imo K121>M4>Mk46>Kek

(titaniumCrouton) #24

I personally find the new gun excellent. Although, that said this community (no offense guys) have a bad habit of discounting any gun that isn’t an M4 laser, so many of them aren’t going to be willing to learn to use it properly or really see how strong it actually is. 11 damage per body shot is excellent damage considering how insanely fast the thing fires, not counting rather easy headshots with it.

Hip fire is more than good enough for close range engagements which the fast RoF actually makes it decent at, especially if you can get headshots in. It’s iron sights are excellent and the accuracy trims up nicely in ADS making it extremely comfortable at medium ranges. The only thing it can’t really do well is long range because that is when you start to feel the recoil+bloom combo and I personally find that fine because the gun shouldn’t be good at everything.

Honestly, I see it so often people complain how terrible the gun is and as they’re complaining they’re out dueling and mowing everyone in there path down without effort because of how good the weapon is but since it’s not a laser guided missile like the M4 is, most everyone discounts it as trash.

The weapon is good. The players are debatable in this case.

(titaniumCrouton) #25

It’s not bad, it’s just subpar.[/quote]

Considering Thunder is supposed to compete for Fragger’s spot on a 5-man lineup it is bad, Thunder should have the stronger gun of the two since his ability is inherently much weaker.[/quote]

Thunder’s ability is much stronger than fraggers though? It’s just terribly bugged at the moment.

(neverplayseriou) #26

@titaniumCrouton u made a thread saying u dont even own thunder…

(Szakalot) #27

It’s not bad, it’s just subpar.[/quote]

Considering Thunder is supposed to compete for Fragger’s spot on a 5-man lineup it is bad, Thunder should have the stronger gun of the two since his ability is inherently much weaker.[/quote]

Thunder’s ability is much stronger than fraggers though? It’s just terribly bugged at the moment.[/quote]

thunder’s ability is infinitely worse than frag grenades. whenever you concuss, a frag would simply get a kill.

(god1) #28

[quote=“titaniumCrouton;115852”]
Thunder’s ability is much stronger than fraggers though? It’s just terribly bugged at the moment.[/quote]
The bugs make the ability much stronger than intended but even in their current state I wouldn’t pick Thunder over Fragger.
Do you want to temporarily stun a room or do you want to nuke everyone in it? Hmm tough call.

(SaulWolfden) #29

I’d sooner trust the Dreiss for close quarters than the MK46.

(gg2ez) #30

I’d sooner trust the Dreiss for close quarters than the MK46.[/quote]

You must really suck with the MK46.

(Jostabeere) #31

Well you should write down the stats then if you make claims based on “facts”.
The gun is still strong. Mainly because it’s on-level with the K-121 but has a lower recoil. And recoil is a big factor for LMGs, even in Dirty Bomb.

(titaniumCrouton) #32

Doesn’t mean I haven’t played him o-o I have friends. One of which was spending time with his family so he let me play on his account xP he has thunder and I was able to test his weapons and kit for myself through about 25 or so matches I played yesterday.

it’s how I know I want to get him for myself. Super fun merc. Not about to sit here and hard grind 40,000 more credits for someone Idk if I’ll like O_o I’m too damn lazy for that.

(titaniumCrouton) #33

It’s not bad, it’s just subpar.[/quote]

Considering Thunder is supposed to compete for Fragger’s spot on a 5-man lineup it is bad, Thunder should have the stronger gun of the two since his ability is inherently much weaker.[/quote]

Thunder’s ability is much stronger than fraggers though? It’s just terribly bugged at the moment.[/quote]

thunder’s ability is infinitely worse than frag grenades. whenever you concuss, a frag would simply get a kill. [/quote]

You vastly overestimate fragger nades and there kill radius. To an astounding point.

[quote=“god1;115872”][quote=“titaniumCrouton;115852”]
Thunder’s ability is much stronger than fraggers though? It’s just terribly bugged at the moment.[/quote]
The bugs make the ability much stronger than intended but even in their current state I wouldn’t pick Thunder over Fragger.
Do you want to temporarily stun a room or do you want to nuke everyone in it? Hmm tough call.
[/quote]

Not…really. The ability has loads of bugs right now and stronger isn’t the word I’d use.

I’ve had times where I get stunned by the grenades a mile away and times where I am point blank on an enemy one and it doesn’t even effect me.

I’ve had times where the stun lasted the amount of time it is supposed to last and then I’ve had times where it wore off immediately.

I’m sorry but if you honestly think his grenades are just STRONGER right now, you’re kinda full of shit O_o.

Also killing/wounding a fewpeople vs blinding/stunning them all, along with disabling any mines or healing stations in the room so me and a few others can effortlessly get on point and clean up?

Yeah, I’ll take the second option.

Edit: Got my thoughts backwards lol.

(SaulWolfden) #34

I’d sooner trust the Dreiss for close quarters than the MK46.[/quote]

You must really suck with the MK46. [/quote]

I more reliably got kills with the Stark on him and I can’t use that gun to save my life.

(darlingClaymore) #35

MK46 is fine, 11 dmg per bullet with high rof. Its for long range as its ADS is good. Also its a gun made to kill people that are blinded… what do you expect?

(Telzen) #36

Well you should write down the stats then if you make claims based on “facts”.
The gun is still strong. Mainly because it’s on-level with the K-121 but has a lower recoil. And recoil is a big factor for LMGs, even in Dirty Bomb.
[/quote]

The stats are on the wiki. And oh no the gun is strong. You say that like he should only get a gun if its weak or something.

(Mr-Penguin) #37

The problem is that the conc is unreliable as f*ck.

(Amerika) #38

I switched from the MK46 to a Stark loadout with drilled and my already decent numbers with Thunder went up considerably. The MK46 is really good at close range but starts getting rough to kill with at medium distance and beyond against people who know how to move well. And the extra belt capacity doesn’t assist with this. This isn’t an issue with the K121.

The Stark fixes this issue for me and allows me to play the peek game and use my HP to tank more damage while being able to kill mobile/low hp targets ridiculously fast. I just find myself in more situations, at least with my playstyle and against very mobile opponents, where the MK46 isn’t as good as other weapons.

I think the gun is a but underwhelming after sinking quite a few hours behind it.

(Szakalot) #39

[quote=“Amerika;116161”]I switched from the MK46 to a Stark loadout with drilled and my already decent numbers with Thunder went up considerably. The MK46 is really good at close range but starts getting rough to kill with at medium distance and beyond against people who know how to move well. And the extra belt capacity doesn’t assist with this. This isn’t an issue with the K121.

The Stark fixes this issue for me and allows me to play the peek game and use my HP to tank more damage while being able to kill mobile/low hp targets ridiculously fast. I just find myself in more situations, at least with my playstyle and against very mobile opponents, where the MK46 isn’t as good as other weapons.

I think the gun is a but underwhelming after sinking quite a few hours behind it.[/quote]

at mid range mk46 thunder wants to shoot from cover; ADS can mop people up with headshots.

hipfire is way too inaccurate to combat other rifles, does alright against smgs, you likely will win with thunder’s hp+extra ammo

(avidCow) #40

I don’t like the ADS much as this weapon jumps side to side a bit.