So, let's talk aiming habits

(watsyurdeal) #1

So, talk about how you aim a bit.

  1. What sens do you use in game?
  2. What DPI do you use? How about Polling Rate and the mouse you use?
  3. Do you move your whole arm or just your wrist?
  4. Do you rest your elbow on your chair or on the desk?
  5. Do you use a large mousepad or a small one? Or none at all?

Why do I ask these things? Well because in my pursuit to improve my aim I’m willing to try new things to get better consistency. Figure I’d see what works for other people and see what I can apply to my setup.

(Ghosthree3) #2
  1. 3.7
  2. 2000 with 1000hz but I’m downscaling by 0.5 and throwing in some accel, mouse is G502
  3. Whole arm, but it depends, obviously I don’t need to move my whole arm for tiny movements
  4. Don’t rest, made sure to get a desk where I could avoid doing that - well I try not to, sometimes I get lazy
  5. Large pad, Qck+ 450mm x 400mm x 2mm

Edit for below

Claw or Palm: Used to be palm, then claw when I started to actually learn to aim, now it’s somewhere in between where I claw my lmb finger and thumb but the rest is more relaxed.
Regular Y-Axis, also 1:1 X:Y axis ratio.

(MTLMortis) #3

you forgot:

claw or palm grip?

regular or inverted y-axis?

(Amerika) #4
  1. 5 sensitivity in-game. The reason for this is what I read about UE3 rounding errors with any non-whole values under 5.
  2. 400 DPI with 1000 polling rate. Roccat Kone XTD Optical. It’s the Cadillac of mice as it’s huge and great for big hands. I consider it the best mouse I’ve ever used in over 15 years of using ‘gaming’ mice (all hail the Intellimouse Explorer 3.0).
  3. I move my whole arm when I play.
  4. My elbow/arm is never at rest.
  5. Currently using a large SteelSeries QCK+ on top of another fatter SteelSeries pad. [url=“http://amerikan.us/photos/apartment/2014-04-29%2000.15.51.jpg”]Picture of my setup from when I first moved in to my apartment.
  6. It changes based on what I’m doing really.

I figure out my sensitivity in-game by attempting to do near perfect 180’s consistently going both directions. When I can do that I’m done. Does anybody else do something similar?

Actual aiming in action:
Kek10
Crotzni
Moa
PDP
K121
M4
Hochfir

(Ghosthree3) #5

Doesn’t this only affect zoomed sensitivity?

(Amerika) #6

Doesn’t this only affect zoomed sensitivity?[/quote]

I only ever noticed it while zoomed. But I play Vassili enough that I figured I might as well setup my sensitivity to where I used 5 as my baseline in game.

(Ghosthree3) #7

Yeah fair enough, I don’t zoom that much - I probably should - so it was never an issue.

I just use setsensitivityscale to make zoom feel right anyway.

(Vampwood) #8
  1. 9 Senstivity in Game
  2. 400 dpi with a 0.9 post scale X with 0.075 Accel and 2.3 power on a ZOWIE EC2 A
  3. Arm for sweeping movements but wrist for small adjusts, my aim is more twitch based then say Amerikas tracking based with a Palm grip
  4. Wrist and elbow not at rest
  5. ZOWIE GSR Large mat
(srswizard) #9
  1. 5
  2. 600DPI, 1000Hz, G502
  3. Mostly wrist and finger adjusting for tracking and whole arm for larger movement.
  4. Chair
  5. Huge one: Mionix Sargas 900
  6. Claw/palm grip hybrid

http://puu.sh/j2Fa2/5e4df821ac.jpg

(Ghosthree3) #10

Best screensaver.

(watsyurdeal) #11

A common trend I am noticing is that a lot of you say your arm is not at rest.

So then that means when you are moving your mouse your arm is basically in the air at all times? No leaning or resting on anything? I’m assuming that’s so nothing throws you off, but doesn’t that fatigue you at all?

And how would you recommend that on my setup? My chair doesn’t quite go up high enough, so I have to put my right arm at an awkward angle compared to my left, that and I have about 18 inches of length and 12 inches of width to move my mouse around.

I was thinking of getting a drawer to put my computer tower on, and getting a much larger mouse pad to cover all that extra space, the only thing is figuring out the chair, and how to get it to go a little higher.

(Ghosthree3) #12

It does fatigue a little but you get used to it, mostly. It’s worth it not to have the windscreen wiper effect though, as well as less friction in general. Speaking of friction, I always pull my sleeve up too so the part of my arm that does make contact sometimes moves as smoothly as possible.

If you chair isn’t high enough that your elbow simply cannot fall below the desk you’re pretty screwed in that regard though, since holding your arm up high enough would be exhausting.

I have my tower on the floor tbh, haven’t had one on a desk in many years.

If you need more right side room is shuffling everything to the left out of the question?

(watsyurdeal) #13

It does fatigue a little but you get used to it, mostly. It’s worth it not to have the windscreen wiper effect though, as well as less friction in general. Speaking of friction, I always pull my sleeve up too so the part of my arm that does make contact sometimes moves as smoothly as possible.

If you chair isn’t high enough that your elbow simply cannot fall below the desk you’re pretty screwed in that regard though, since holding your arm up high enough would be exhausting.

I have my tower on the floor tbh, haven’t had one on a desk in many years.

If you need more right side room is shuffling everything to the left out of the question?[/quote]

My tower is at the very edge of my desk, and I would put it on the floor but…I’m seriously afraid of static clean and other shit. That and it being starved for air, my tower is an Enthoo Luxe, I think putting it on this Drawer. Even if I put it on the left it’d still be at the very edge with barely enough room for my monitor, keyboard, and mouse.

At least with the Drawer it will give me about 10 more inches of room to move my mouse, and I could put a large mouse pad like the Razer Goliathus on the desk and it’ll fit. That and I could put my boxes for Graphics Cards and shit in the drawers instead of the closet. XD

(Gi.Am) #14
  1. 5 - just lowered it today. was 7 before but 5 seems to work better so far.
  2. 750 DPI 500hz Logitech G300, cheap does everything you want and most important symetrical.
  3. wrist, for aiming / strafe compensation lower arm for 90° -180° movement
  4. Ellbow on the desk. Got a office desk they are designed with resting your arm in mind.
  5. None at all. The desk has a smooth surface (like a kitchen counter) with little random dots perfect for mouse sensors. And to be honest crashing your mouse into your PC and Keyboard is way better than falling of a mousepad :wink: .

Additional stuff.

Got the QL mouse acc driver installed, but no acc for now (maybe later). Only a bit angle snapping.
Using a custom crosshair that I tweak pretty much every day via Rainmeter.

(Ghosthree3) #15

Yesssss

Oh god why. Doesn’t that snap you to horizontal/vertical when you’re close to it? I mean I can see some advantages, but it’s not worth the disadvantages imo.

Also since 2 of us - possibly 3 @Vampwood ? - are using the QL mouse accel driver I’ll post pic related.
What I’m using now:

(Vampwood) #16

Ya I use it. Sens is currently at 9, but these are my current values otherwise.

(Ghosthree3) #17

The author of the GUI has said that the sensitivity value doesn’t seem to really do anything and can be left at 1. Tried it myself setting it really high and really low, doesn’t seem to make a difference.

That said, it doesn’t make a difference so you don’t need to change it :stuck_out_tongue:

(Amerika) #18

@Vampwood is using that same application to add in Q3-style accel. I used to use accel for some weapons in Q3 but I stopped a while back since it was hard to replicate in other games and extremely difficult at some LAN events. So I simply got used to not using it in Q3 or any other game.

Accel is great for tracking while also being able to twitch but I found that a consistent track works as well or better, for me, than the ability to snap since I tend to just go to targets quickly and rarely over-compensate with my current setup.

It’s definitely worth trying out though as it might work for some people.

(Fiktio) #19
  1. In-game sensitivity 10
  2. DPI is 800 and Polling Rate 1000 Hz (Mouse: Steelseries Kana V2)
  3. I move my wrist mostly
  4. Most often elbow isn’t resting
  5. Quite small mousepad, though mouse almost never goes over the edge while playing
(Ghosthree3) #20

I’d say that perhaps you never found that perfect set up that let you do both well. But since what you’re using now works great anyway there’s not much point in testing it.

SAD.