Snipers should cost 100k each!

[Nail]

lol, skill

push lmb = leet skill

[Dysfnal]

As someone who plays a LOT of Aimee, and just worked my ass off to get a cobalt F82, I would completely abandon this game of they removed snipers. Even I, as a pretty mediocre sniper myself, who rarely ends up at the top of the scoreboard, can regularly make an impact on a game simply by occupying the right area and shooting at people’s heads. I don’t even have to hit them. Aim may seem like the most important factor, but it really isn’t, at least not for me.

[Cleanlybomb]

I’m okay with this idea.

As long as they make Fragger 1000000 credits and make Javelin infinite +1 credits.

[STARRYSOCK]

@Dys[fn]al said:
As someone who plays a LOT of Aimee, and just worked my ass off to get a cobalt F82, I would completely abandon this game of they removed snipers. Even I, as a pretty mediocre sniper myself, who rarely ends up at the top of the scoreboard, can regularly make an impact on a game simply by occupying the right area and shooting at people’s heads. I don’t even have to hit them. Aim may seem like the most important factor, but it really isn’t, at least not for me.

Sniper’s abilities are what allow them to do that mainly. A well placed snitch can be death for the other team. I actually like their abilities, besides red eye at least. They’re an important part of the game. However, their weapons themselves are not. As I’ve mentioned several times, sniper rifles are out of place in DB. I won’t go on too much about that since I’ve mentioned it a lot in my other comments.
But well, the other thing is, if you can do well as aimee, you can probably do a lot better as pretty much anyone else once you get used to the playsytle. Sure you can make an impact, but that doesn’t necessarily mean you’re helping much. DB is not a deathmatch game. Doing objectives, being an effective medic, etc, it’s usually a lot more important than raw kills or just inconveniencing the enemy team.

[TheStrangerous]

It doesn’t matter how much you overbloat their price, or make them harder to use than Dark Souls games. A good sniper won’t have a counter, other than good sniper.

[scrub_lord]

@Sorotia said:
not fun especially when they’re being assholes and you ask them to play something else

The irony of this statement

[scrub_lord]

@STARRYSOCK said:

@Dys[fn]al said:
As someone who plays a LOT of Aimee, and just worked my ass off to get a cobalt F82, I would completely abandon this game of they removed snipers. Even I, as a pretty mediocre sniper myself, who rarely ends up at the top of the scoreboard, can regularly make an impact on a game simply by occupying the right area and shooting at people’s heads. I don’t even have to hit them. Aim may seem like the most important factor, but it really isn’t, at least not for me.

Sniper’s abilities are what allow them to do that mainly. A well placed snitch can be death for the other team. I actually like their abilities, besides red eye at least. They’re an important part of the game. However, their weapons themselves are not. As I’ve mentioned several times, sniper rifles are out of place in DB. I won’t go on too much about that since I’ve mentioned it a lot in my other comments.
But well, the other thing is, if you can do well as aimee, you can probably do a lot better as pretty much anyone else once you get used to the playsytle. Sure you can make an impact, but that doesn’t necessarily mean you’re helping much. DB is not a deathmatch game. Doing objectives, being an effective medic, etc, it’s usually a lot more important than raw kills or just inconveniencing the enemy team.

I’d argue that an insane sniper is more painful to play against than an insane Fragger. Snipers secure kills more effectively then any other class, it’s just the skill floor and ceiling is way higher than everything else. Missing headshots punishes you hard.

Kills are very relevant in this game.** Defending is literally all about preventing the enemy team from doing the objective by killing them. lul**

Medics and engys who don’t secure kills are inconveniencing the team. Can’t tell you how many times I get players who refuse to shoot things simply because they are medics or engineers. Meanwhile the best medics are those who stick with the main slayer, healing them when they need to be healed and helping them down players when they don’t. Watch any real comp match and you’ll see how medics should be played.

[Sorotia]

@scrub_lord said:

@Sorotia said:
not fun especially when they’re being assholes and you ask them to play something else

The irony of this statement

I’m sorry…am I being a asshole to ask them to switch to something that would contribute more than someone with no skill playing a high skill required class?

I guess you like to carry dead weight?

[BerylRdm]

If there are people willing to play snipers - let them. But, as far as I’m concerned there are many people willing to play matches without snipers (like myself). Solution? SD should give us 2-3 stopwatch servers with snipers banned on them.
Both sides would be satisfied.

[STARRYSOCK]

@scrub_lord said:
I’d argue that an insane sniper is more painful to play against than an insane Fragger. Snipers secure kills more effectively then any other class, it’s just the skill floor and ceiling is way higher than everything else. Missing headshots punishes you hard.

Snipers are a lot harder to actually play “insanely”, that’s what I mean. Sure a godlike sniper can make a massive impact in the game, moreso than a godlike fragger in some situations, but it’s a lot harder to find a sniper that can actually do that than it is with pretty much any other merc.
Like I said in my previous posts, I’ve only seen about 30 or 40 snipers in total, in my 1,000+ hours of playing this game, who have actually made that kind of impact in the game, the rest (and vast majority) have all been a waste of a merc slot. Snipers have a higher skill ceiling than most mercs, but unless you can actually reach that ceiling, there’s no point in playing them because it’s usually easier to do better as practically any other class.
It’s like playing sparks as an assault merc. When it’s done well, she can usually outpreform nearly all other mercs, even assault classes, because she has such a high skill ceiling. But unless you can actually reach that ceiling, there’s no point in playing her for kills when you could just play any other “easier” merc and preform better.

But that’s not even my main argument against them, it’s just one factor.

[WatchAsILead]

@Sorotia said:

@Nail said:

@Sorotia said:

@Nail said:
snipers are here to stay SD likes them

Are you sure? That jump sniping nerf says different.

Not saying they should be in game, just really getting on my nerves that these newb Snipers that are carrying up the rear even on offense and they’re good for nothing.

Even when they contribute nothing to the match, refuse to change…it’s like you’re down a man or three depending on how many good for nothing are in the match.

A good Sniper can kick some real ass, but the number of good snipers is a tiny fraction compared to the number of @$!# snipers who ruin games.

yes, I’m certain, jump snipe has been contentious since closed alpha especially considering it’s impossible to actually do irl

Just like it would be impossible for petite little 120 pound women to jump around and fire shotguns with almost pinpoint accuracy without getting knocked onto their ass, or without injuring themselves?

Game has a lot of impossible that people do daily…

Are you saying woman arent strong and cant do what men do? So sexist.

[Sorotia]

@WatchAsILead said:

@Sorotia said:

@Nail said:

@Sorotia said:

@Nail said:
snipers are here to stay SD likes them

Are you sure? That jump sniping nerf says different.

Not saying they should be in game, just really getting on my nerves that these newb Snipers that are carrying up the rear even on offense and they’re good for nothing.

Even when they contribute nothing to the match, refuse to change…it’s like you’re down a man or three depending on how many good for nothing are in the match.

A good Sniper can kick some real ass, but the number of good snipers is a tiny fraction compared to the number of @$!# snipers who ruin games.

yes, I’m certain, jump snipe has been contentious since closed alpha especially considering it’s impossible to actually do irl

Just like it would be impossible for petite little 120 pound women to jump around and fire shotguns with almost pinpoint accuracy without getting knocked onto their ass, or without injuring themselves?

Game has a lot of impossible that people do daily…

Are you saying woman arent strong and cant do what men do? So sexist.

No…I’m saying a skinny little girl couldn’t do that…but I don’t see a man doing it either. Just a example that came to mind because you see more bunny hopping Proxy than any other shotgun wielder.

[Nail]

and I said I know several women who could do that, plus about 200 of the IDF among other forces

[Sorotia]

@Nail said:
and I said I know several women who could do that, plus about 200 of the IDF among other forces

LOL

Wont believe it till I see it…people can injure themselves just from holding a shotgun improperly…like to know how the hell they can handle the kick without hurting themselves or having the gun buck wildly from hipshooting in mid air.

Plus who the heck even actually fires a weapon while bunnyhopping or jumping in mid air besides maybe almost Matrix level unrealistic shooting scenarios you see only in the movies.