Dear SD, just sharing my experience. It happened to me that the skill shuffler was triggered 20 seconds before the game end…obviously the bomb was about to explode in stopwatch and it was clear that the attackers win.I was in the attacking team with most points. Literally 5 seconds before end it put me in the defending team resulting me losing the match. Now that is kinda troll.
Is there any chance that this feature can’t be triggered at some point of time before the end of the match? Thx
Shuffles don’t seem to work anyways, if a shuffle passes, people will still do their best to jump teams and if they can’t, just quit the server. Completely useless feature in a game where players don’t want balanced teams.
Oh boy, this will happen to you once in 1000 years. A win is not important in this game and doesn’t give you anything special.
Well, shuffle require at least 9 vote in 8v8, that means if the whole of enemy team vote yes, the vote would not pass if your teammate didn’t press F1. Blame your teammate
You have got point mate. Victories do not matter if you’ve already done your daily 500c for the first victory. That is also something to think about for SD devs.
Later on I had another game where we steamrolled the enemy and the teams got shuffled. Didn’t really help much as the players switched back.
I see many players switching teams when they see that there are 20+ levels present…I personally would not prefer to see the player level either…
Anyway just wanted to share my feedback. Thanks
@Jostabeere
According to that logic, if we take a city with incredibly low murder rates, we should just let a a single murder slide because they’re so rare.
I’ve only seen shuffle passed ONCE, I LITERALLY CRIED.
Anyways, I think shuffle should be on automatic. If it’s already in the engine, why not just enable it constantly?
Shuffle teams early on in the game, fine. But at a later stage, no it should’t even be an option. I’ve never seen it go through, but the thought annoys me. Regardless how imbalanced the teams are and which side I’m on I will always vote no for a shuffle if it’s close to the end.
If you’re getting rolled, just let it happen and wait for the next round and shuffle earlier when you see imbalance. Don’t wait until you’re a minute from losing. That’s just fucking annoying. I’ve seen tons of people do this in balanced matches as well, in the last minute when they lose faith they vote for shuffle just for that opportunity to get the win.
Anytime before the half way mark or the first objective being complete would be a good time. After that, then you’re just punishing people.
The skill gaps between players on pretty much any non-max level 5 server tend to be so wide that shuffling with even team numbers doesn’t do anything, the better players will keep rolling regardless of which team they’re on.
There should be an automatic shuffle for when the other team is 2+ players down though.
@Jostabeere
According to that logic, if we take a city with incredibly low murder rates, we should just let a a single murder slide because they’re so rare.
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Your logic is pretty bad. A murder is something which is forbidden. A team-switch ain’t nothing illegal or bad.
[quote=“Xavien;113080”]I’ve only seen shuffle passed ONCE, I LITERALLY CRIED.
Anyways, I think shuffle should be on automatic. If it’s already in the engine, why not just enable it constantly?[/quote]
I have made so much threads about automatic balance here…Nothing happened, sadly.
Exactly…why people do this? Because of daily 500c for the first victory. There should be better motivation for the players to win matches other than daily 500c.
I agree that the shuffle feature should not be available in the later stage of the match.
[quote=“god1;113163”]The skill gaps between players on pretty much any non-max level 5 server tend to be so wide that shuffling with even team numbers doesn’t do anything, the better players will keep rolling regardless of which team they’re on.
There should be an automatic shuffle for when the other team is 2+ players down though.[/quote]
Shuffling all the players for a 2 or more imbalance of player count seems wrong. Why not just move someone to the other team?
how is the game supposed to know the match is almost over? if there is a plant it might get defused. if there is no plant, there might still be one 5sex before the end.
bottom line: >50% of the players has to agree to the shuffle. the scenario you describe seems very rare, assuming the team thats about to win understands what the vote is for
It’s pretty easy, if you’re on the last objective, then it’s almost over. And if it’s not almost over, well then the match isn’t imbalanced now is it? In which case you wouldn’t need to shuffle. If the attackers never get to the last point then the shuffle vote is closed X amount of minutes before the timer runs out.
I know winning in DB does not make much of a difference most of what you earn is from how you played yourself but having the win stolen by vote shuffle in a rather balanced match is VERY annoying.
Was in a lobby of lvl 5-13s today. Shuffled the team 3 times that game to try and get me off the enemy team, but in the end, I just kept stomping.
Yes.
You heard me.
Three. Fucking. Times.
I have recorded proof that shuffles can go through! Sadly it did not make anything better.
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bottom line: >50% of the players has to agree to the shuffle. the scenario you describe seems very rare, assuming the team thats about to win understands what the vote is for[/quote]
it used to be very rare, but it feels like people are more and more trying to abuse this feature these days…happened to me already several times since I left this post here.