'Skill' in Brink

[Chris2]

There are certainly a lot of areas where SMGs can be dominant. That being said, those areas aren’t all the game has to offer. Look at SecTower for example-- both the opening plant and several elements of the escort objective take place in areas where the two sides will be widely separated from another. Further, even on the hack objective, which takes place in a not-particularly-large room, there are places where longer-range weapons can shine. The outer corridor, for instance, is long enough that ARs will have an advantage over SMGs. Further, since you can change your loadout on the fly with a command post, players can switch to whatever is most useful at the current stage of the map and aren’t stuck with a poor weapon if the game changes to a different phase.

To this day I’ve not play SecTower in an online match properly, strange I know, probably down to the fact I can only play few rounds before I get headaches and eye strain so just by chance I’ve always missed that map…

What you describe though would be nice to see used bit more throughout the game, this was present in SD’s past games by the bucket load.

I fully agree with you on this being a misstep. While the automatic voice chatter is useful, it doesn’t convey the full picture to people, and critically doesn’t help them coordinate pushes and rushes on specific objectives. This can be mitigated by proper planning, but was IMO a clear design flaw in BRINK.

Yep.

I don’t find this to necessarily be the case, especially when playing classes with multiple buffs to give out. As a medic, for instance, I often find myself budgeting two or three supply pips for revives and battlefield heals, and more on escort missions. As a soldier, I often save ammo distribution for those who really need it so that I’ll have more grenades when the time comes.

I was slightly over exaggerating, as things stand it just doesn’t feel like it’s working as intended, I like the idea behind buffs but what I don’t like is that in order to stand a chance in a fire fight you need to be buffed to the eyeballs and the only way to ensure that is have a bunch of guys each spawn buffing each other before setting out.

I was going to propose a system a while back where you could only receive one modifier buff so that the buffs were spread across the team, you would give the best aimers the weapon buff, your objective classes the kevlar buffs and so on, rather than give everyone every buff.

Health and ammo would be unaffected.

I think this is actually an important point. At present, shooting skill is likely deemphasized too much, leading to frustrated players and often people switching to different games. By tightening up the spread but keeping damage relatively low, I think Splash Damage will be able to create a balance that will appeal to people who prefer both more traditional and more teamplay-oriented games. Of course, it remains to be seen whether this will result in an influx of players, but to me it seems like the obvious next move.

I think it’s too late for Brink but something they need to seriously think about for their next title.

Thanks for the well-thought out reply!

Thanks for posting a proper alternative perspective, wolfnemesis et al could learn a lot from your posts, your post deserved an equally thought out retort, theirs typically don’t.

[Verticae]

you may struggle at Brink and have to learn. Deep down this game is too hard and too different for some.

Yes, the people that consistently get most kills and play in the finals of large tournament must be the ones that are struggling with Brink.

Fetter, kudo’s for actually debating things.

[wolfnemesis75]

[QUOTE=Verticae;372392]Yes, the people that consistently get most kills and play in the finals of large tournament must be the ones that are struggling with Brink.

Fetter, kudo’s for actually debating things.[/QUOTE]Are you trying to say that YOU got to the finals of a large tournament in Brink?

[Chris2]

No he wasn’t can’t you read or something?

Congrats in derailing yet another thread.

[juv3nile]

Skill in brink is the blending of all elements of the gameplay, parkour movement, gunplay, objective understanding, and team strength, coordination, and communication into a singular talent and heightened awareness. High level Brink players are just that good. Know that they are gonna win 99% of the time, every time. Have a deep understanding how to break any hold n revel in cracking the code. Not something that can be explained to the closed-minded or folks who hide behind point n click as a paper-thin badge of self-proclaimed skill more smoke n mirror than actual. Stick to your comfort-zone, that way you don’t have to face the awful truth: you may struggle at Brink and have to learn. Deep down this game is too hard and too different for some.

Can you take a video and show me how you play? Im really curious. Cause I dont see anything atm.

My xbox broke so Im using a controller to play brink on the PC but still get most kills (8v8 not bots) most of the time. Cuz the spread is so large that I just need to spam in the general direction and I’ll get kills. However, when I go to css using the controller I get raped cause the guns are accurate.

[Bauer]

Skill in brink is the blending of all elements of the gameplay, parkour movement, gunplay, objective understanding, and team strength, coordination, and communication into a singular talent and heightened awareness. High level Brink players are just that good. Know that they are gonna win 99% of the time, every time. Have a deep understanding how to break any hold n revel in cracking the code. Not something that can be explained to the closed-minded or folks who hide behind point n click as a paper-thin badge of self-proclaimed skill more smoke n mirror than actual. Stick to your comfort-zone, that way you don’t have to face the awful truth: you may struggle at Brink and have to learn. Deep down this game is too hard and too different for some.

Hey wolf, i’d really be interested in seeing a video of you and your team/clan playing as i’ve not seen one competitive match on Brink since it’s release. It’d be great if you could just post a skill filled video with loads of tactics and amazing kills to get all these nay sayers to shut up about the lack of skill ay? How about it?

[wolfnemesis75]

^ ha ha. PC lurkers posing as Junior Members. You can’t handle the truth.

[Verticae]

He made a fair request, why do you need to be so offensive? I suppose it is because you can’t deliver?

[wolfnemesis75]

[QUOTE=Verticae;372408]He made a fair request, why do you need to be so offensive? I suppose it is because you can’t deliver?[/QUOTE] You a riot. I’ll respond when they can at least get their combined post count up to a respectable number.

[Bauer]

^ ha ha. PC lurkers posing as Junior Members. You can’t handle the truth.

So you’ve got nothing then?

edit: Not even a PC lurker, played this crap on the 360 and PS3 on launch, got tired of spraying down wave after wave of bots while sitting at choke points.

[Chris2]

He made a fair request, why do you need to be so offensive? I suppose it is because you can’t deliver?

He claimed the people who he regularly plays with would destroy us old schoolers in a game of Brink other day, guess he said that as he knows it can never happen, empty threats.

You a riot. I’ll respond when they can at least get their combined post count up to a respectable number.

The **** has post count got to do with anything?

[wolfnemesis75]

[QUOTE=.Chris.;372411]He claimed the people who he regularly plays with would destroy us old schoolers in a game of Brink other day, guess he said that as he knows it can never happen, empty threats.

The **** has post count got to do with anything?[/QUOTE]I play Brink every day, brother. If console is so easy, it should be like stepping down to junior high for you right, point n clicker? Except stepping down might break your hip, Old Man Gamer. Either way, I’d have to put you out of your misery.

[Bauer]

I play Brink every day, brother. If console is so easy, it should be like stepping down to junior high for you right, point n clicker? Except stepping down might break your hip, Old Man Gamer. Either way, I’d have to put you out of your misery.

Are we ever going to see footage of the amazing wolf in action or are you just all talk?

[V1cK_dB]

Are we ever going to see footage of the amazing wolf in action or are you just all talk?

I’ve seen him play. He’s not good. He’s a casual. He and his amazing team used to spend half their time playing all out against bots LOL.

I’m also willing to prove this by doing a 1 v 1 against him and posting the vid for all to see. I’m also willing to do the same and post a vid of a 5 v 5 match of people I know against his “hardcore” team Lmao.

[Chris2]

I play Brink every day, brother. If console is so easy, it should be like stepping down to junior high for you right, point n clicker? Except stepping down might break your hip, Old Man Gamer. Either way, I’d have to put you out of your misery.

The hell are you talking about now? Answer the questions instead of making yourself look like an idiot.

Just so you don’t have to look for the questions again because I know you find reading hard enough as it is without trying to pin point questions I’ll post them again.

1. Do you have a video that shows your awesome skills?

2. What does a person’s post count have anything to do with your inability to answer them?

They are not trick questions so don’t worry about answering them.

[Verticae]

wolfnemesis, I’m going to kindly request you start a thread yourself at this point. This thread is for the critical discussion of skill level in Brink on PC, something you’d quite frankly know nothing about. You do nothing but insult people, derail threads and post flamebait, and quite frankly, it’s a miracle your posting rights haven’t been revoked yet.

[montheponies]

However, when I go to css using the controller I get raped cause the guns are accurate.

Accurate guns in CSS…hmm okaay.

[Bauer]

[QUOTE=V1cK_dB;372415]I’ve seen him play. He’s not good. He’s a casual. He and his amazing team used to spend half their time playing all out against bots LOL.

I’m also willing to prove this by doing a 1 v 1 against him and posting the vid for all to see. I’m also willing to do the same and post a vid of a 5 v 5 match of people I know against his “hardcore” team Lmao.[/QUOTE]

Please do! Anything to get him to shut up about how amazing he is at a game designed for blind amputees.

[wolfnemesis75]

[QUOTE=Verticae;372420]wolfnemesis, I’m going to kindly request you start a thread yourself at this point. This thread is for the critical discussion of skill level in Brink on PC, something you’d quite frankly know nothing about. You do nothing but insult people, derail threads and post flamebait, and quite frankly, it’s a miracle your posting rights haven’t been revoked yet.[/QUOTE]The prerequisite for discussing Skill in Brink, should be based at least somewhat on actually playing the game to a significant degree. Transparent posts and shallow perceptions of Brink while discounting opinions of those who actually log hours playing the game, doesn’t constitute an open discussion or an accurate one for that matter. Anyone can play Monday Morning Quarterback talking about Skill, but when you’re not in the trenches pushing the limits of the game, its hard to take you seriously.

This thread should read partly as a post-mortem once again for why Brink is not ETQW:Brink.

[juv3nile]

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Are you gonna play that dude?