Should SD add a server cvar option for FF-off-mines?

(bani) #1

Right now bad players can abuse tk complaints to get good engies kicked. This is actually worse than teamkilling because they get good players kicked from the team, yet the lamers stay! :angry:

(pack) #2

in the first months of rtcw people complained sometimes yeah. Now when you join a server it’s hard to get a complaint. I even have it disabled (complaintpopup 0 or…)

But indeed I agree, no complaints when stepping on landmines :slight_smile:

You lose some experience 2 if you receive complaint, no ? That should be removed.

And btw one shoot on a friendly cov ops = red sign
2nd shot, some copy paste from player guide appears on his screen or so :slight_smile:

(bani) #3

well the other problem is teammates trying to sabotage the team by running over your mines to detonate them (and on ff enabled servers, to get you kicked via complaints).

so there should be a cvar option where friendlies can’t trip friendly mines at all… that would end the sabotaging of your team’s defenses…

(Englander) #4

Its simple ,just make it so you cant file at all on mines or leave the option to turn FF on mines on or off in the server options before you create it.

Making mines were FF is off for every server is wrong and not the answer, it will spoil the game IMO.

If you get an idiot laying mines in places were hes meaning to kill his own team or walking on mines from his own team on purpose just call a vote to kick him or if Admin is around he will get kicked with a ban.

For the time a TKer is around i dont see the problem really,wether mines have FF on or off TKers can still find other ways to be a pain in the ass, so that is another reason to leave FF on mines IMO.

(RivrStyx) #5

Happens on my server all the time…teammates filing on good and bad engs(the bad ones who cares). Would defeat the purpose of checking map and being able to file on the bad ones tho.

(Pippi) #6

If you get an idiot laying mines in places were hes meaning to kill his own team or walking on mines from his own team on purpose just call a vote to kick him or if Admin is around he will get kicked with a ban.

I disagree. This isn’t possible on publics. Even with Rtcw this isn’t possible all the time, and since ET will have a much larger amount of newbies, this will encourage teamkillers. Trying to shift the responsibility to votes and admins that are almost never on most servers is a good way to kill the games on a lot of pubs.

Don’t reason from your own situation (clanserver/actively adminned server), but think of the pubs filled with newbies, teamkillers and idiots, and where there is never an admin present.

Just disable the triggering of mines by friendlies… That’s the only option that has no gameplay disadvantages.

(bani) #7

well it should be an option anyway, for friendlies to not trigger mines at all. unrealistic yes, but its the option with the fewest negatives.

as it stands now, mines are a lamer’s wet dream. he can get good players kicked by stepping on mines and filing complaints! it’s even better than teamkilling in rtcw because the lamer doesn’t get kicked, and he manages to get good players kicked!

(RivrStyx) #8

i’d rather see an option to allow a complaint or not for mine tking… with maybe a vote option. Anyway those type players if an admin is active won’t last long.

(Pippi) #9

Well, and there you have it. Complaints on/off only works if an admin is online, or when the larger part of the server is filled with helpfull, honost, and intelligent players.
I’d like to stay positive and think that’s 50% of the servers. So just let the other 50% of the servers be screwed?

I don’t think so, complaints on or off is just a mediocre solution.