Shotguns & Melee


(Loki.) #1

Tried my first Shotgun last night in a longtime, what a JOKE!

The spread and range are ridiculous, all you need to be is somewhat close with your cross-hairs and you take off half a players HP… Two shots = kill!

Camp a health station and plug away… Get in close and One-Shot = Kill!!

Again, shotguns are joke, a very bad one…

Went on a cricket bat spree, just as bad as Shotguns! Couldn’t believe a friggin wooden bat did more damage then an AR!

If this was a SP game, coo! But it’s not… These weapons and their damage make no sense to me… But it does explain why so many players use Shotguns and just melee weapons…


(everlovestruck) #2

Even though I hate shotguns too, SD doesn’t seem to like the idea of offending <lvl10 cheesy shotgun jumpshot Proxy mains. Because you know, Proxy is the face of the game and she’s noob friendly
Sooo, no shotgun nerfs for us.


(ImSploosh) #3

Shotguns just confuse me. I main Kira and randomly get 1-shotted by shotguns, but when I use a shotgun, it takes 3-4 dead-on shots to kill. Maybe I’m missing something? Headshots don’t help either. They’ve always confused me though. I heard aiming down sights decreases the spread and maybe that’s what I should be doing? Like some MW2 type shit.


(GatoCommodore) #4

@6429F1740165 said:
Tried my first Shotgun last night in a longtime, what a JOKE!

The spread and range are ridiculous, all you need to be is somewhat close with your cross-hairs and you take off half a players HP… Two shots = kill!

Camp a health station and plug away… Get in close and One-Shot = Kill!!

Again, shotguns are joke, a very bad one…

Went on a cricket bat spree, just as bad as Shotguns! Couldn’t believe a friggin wooden bat did more damage then an AR!

If this was a SP game, coo! But it’s not… These weapons and their damage make no sense to me… But it does explain why so many players use Shotguns and just melee weapons…

shotguns are extension of melee.

just like pistol.

thats why you use SMG because shotgun is only for fun.


(LifeupOmega) #5

SD want all guns to be viable, but they forget to take into account the risk/reward and how enjoyable some of the garbage they have in the game is to fight. For a game focused around aim centric, drawn out gun fights they sure to add a lot of high alpha damage weaponry that can one shot you. : )


(neverplayseriou) #6

@ImSploosh shotguns in db just punish you for even bothering to aim at the head, most of the pellets will miss if you do, better of aiming at the body unless ur straight up against the enemy.


(Boory Marks) #7

Shotguns are my guilty pleasure in this game tbh, but cricket bat is my life and soul


(watsyurdeal) #8

If a Shotgun doesn’t kill in two blasts, you’re dead.

You’re talking about taking over half a second to kill someone, where as the M4 and other auto matics can kill super fast with good aim.


(Loki.) #9

@watsyurdeal said:
If a Shotgun doesn’t kill in two blasts, you’re dead.

You’re talking about taking over half a second to kill someone, where as the M4 and other auto matics can kill super fast with good aim.

Thats sort of the point, shotgun will kill within two shots with shitty aim, while it takes far more shots, even with a decent aim to kill someone with a AR/SMG…

Add all the bunny hoping and bouncing off objects, your aim has to be above ‘decent’ which the avg-to-above-avg players doesn’t have…

The balance is shifted heavily to the shotgun totting bunny hopper on meth!!


(kopyright) #10

As long as sniper rifles can down me with a single hit you can pry my shotgun from my cold dead hands.


(Your worst knifemare.) #11

Hahaha I suck with shotguns yet always die to 1 random shot from them.


(hawkeyeguy99) #12

I honestly can’t stand playing with shotguns anymore. I used to only use them for Fletcher and Aura, but now I’ve switched to BL loadouts for both. I just like having to actually track people with my aim instead of just running around flicking my mouse back and forth one-shotting people.


(bgyoshi) #13

I used to whine about getting 1 shot by shotties

Then I noticed I’m an idiot and trying to fight shotgun mercs when I have 20 HP left

The bunny hopping makes it as hard for them to aim as it is for you to aim at them. If they’re still crushing you, then your aim is worse than theirs.

Personally, I keep shotguns at mid range or longer and pretty much don’t die to them. This is why Fletcher is beyond unreasonable. All shotgun classes should be weak at range, but Fletcher just throws twice as powerful sticky mines when at range. And for me, the only thing easier than aiming stickies is dropping proxy mines.


(GatoCommodore) #14

@watsyurdeal said:
If a Shotgun doesn’t kill in two blasts, you’re dead.

You’re talking about taking over half a second to kill someone, where as the M4 and other >auto matics can kill super fast with good aim.

Thats sort of the point, shotgun will kill within two shots with @$!# aim, while it takes far more shots, even with a decent aim to kill someone with a AR/SMG…

Add all the bunny hoping and bouncing off objects, your aim has to be above ‘decent’ which the avg-to-above-avg players doesn’t have…

The balance is shifted heavily to the shotgun totting bunny hopper on meth!!> @6429F1740165 said:

@watsyurdeal said:
If a Shotgun doesn’t kill in two blasts, you’re dead.

You’re talking about taking over half a second to kill someone, where as the M4 and other auto matics can kill super fast with good aim.

Thats sort of the point, shotgun will kill within two shots with @$!# aim, while it takes far more shots, even with a decent aim to kill someone with a AR/SMG…

Add all the bunny hoping and bouncing off objects, your aim has to be above ‘decent’ which the avg-to-above-avg players doesn’t have…

The balance is shifted heavily to the shotgun totting bunny hopper on meth!!

lemme explain the logic of using shotgun to you.

Shotguns, as the stereotype goes, are high damage weapon that can kill enemies fast/with two shot within VERY VERY CLOSE RANGE. Its designed as a CQC weapon that actually still require aim if you want to kill enemies fast enough. The pellet spread is very high on medium range and barely giving any damage because the gun itself has very big damage drop-off.

while other weapons like Assault rifles and other medium ranged weapons can devastate enemies without requiring to close the range gap, that means no need to risk getting shot before you enter effective range.

while shotgun damage is very big (if you get all the pellets on target) it acts more like a secondary weapon, less killing potential (2 shots dead means the short shotty can only kill 2 and a half) and a long arse reload time.

so, Rifles and SMG are made to kill from medium-long range while shotgun is useless if operated for medium or long range.

shotgun owners are either very squishy, moderate or very slow, means high chance you can kill shotgun owners with other weapons even before they can damage you.

while playing shotgun, the main skill to have is flanking manuever because rifles are more likely to kill you too fast, so a good map knowledge is also needed when playing shotgun

you see now why shotgun is not better than rifles and SMG?


(x3onn) #15

Shotguns are the worst guns in the game at high level, but very low effort to use


(Szakalot) #16

its always funny to see those hopeless proxies jumping around like bunnies screaming ‘shoot me, shoot me’ as you back up and juke between their ‘timed’ shots, to dodge 90% of attacks.


(Sithas) #17

I dont mind the two-shots much, i have actually some time to react to the enemy. But getting one-shotted really pisses me off, nothing more annoying then getting killed without even having 1 bloody second to react.
Shotguns are sadly low risk high reward weapons.
I dream of the day that sd gives the shotguns a really decent nerf, but that will probably around the same time when the game goes out of beta.


(Chilled Sanity) #18

I learned how to play Dreiss Kira and Bolt action vassili so I could dodge most of the nuisance slash cancer in game. To name some, Hopping autism of Doom and Nuclear Pancakes, Female Hitler Sentient Mortar, “You dont have to be more accurate you just have to shoot more” or Ghetto Girl


(GatoCommodore) #19

@Sithas said:
I dont mind the two-shots much, i have actually some time to react to the enemy. But getting one-shotted really pisses me off, nothing more annoying then getting killed without even having 1 bloody second to react.
Shotguns are sadly low risk high reward weapons.
I dream of the day that sd gives the shotguns a really decent nerf, but that will probably around the same time when the game goes out of beta.

-Shotgun
-Low Risk

kek, please dont jest


(KangaJoo) #20

@watsyurdeal said:
If a Shotgun doesn’t kill in two blasts, you’re dead.

You’re talking about taking over half a second to kill someone, where as the M4 and other auto matics can kill super fast with good aim.

You’re forgetting that shotguns are about burst dmg. At high level play on the rare occasions shotguns are used, the people using them don’t stand out in the open spamming left click, nor do they do the typical noob wall bouncing proxy gimmick. They usually play off a healing station and pillar in and out of cover. If you factor in human reaction times and how fast you can dart out, shoot, and go back behind cover, the shotgun can do pretty well against an AR as long as the range is close to medium-close.