I know we all want to be assured that no one is cheating in ET. But frankly, there’s a rule set that can be altered on the fly. This allowance encourages the admin’s on servers to cheat whenever they are not doing good, and they are using their weak playing abilities to justify their actions.
ET has become a very aggressive game. This means players are getting better and playing harder. The problem is when the admin doesn’t understand (themselves) that they can be beat, even on their own servers–and they act like children.
There are two servers recently that have created a problem for players. One of them have a policy where the admin will fling players around and kill them when they win a battle. For instance, a player is a good machine gunner and they defeat you in a duel. The next thing you see is that you’ve died. A bit of investigation shows that the Admin used !fling to throw you across the world. Another is when the admin doesn’t like you stealing his uniform and he uses a command called !splat.
Today, because I’m on a linux client, the server admin kept telling me I’m cheating because his PB couldn’t, apparently take screen shots of me.
The server admin kept repeating that I had to fix my client. Since there’s nothing wrong with my client there’s no need for him to complain. Since there’s a chance he couldn’t take screen shots it would only be attributable to my use of the linux client for ET. There are now Macintosh clients, Windows clients, and Linux clients. If PB won’t take a screenshot of me while I play on a linux client I should not be subject to their immaturity.
This in essense is the fault of splashdamage. They allowed such mods that this provides facilities which allow the admins to act childishly. If splashdamage had worried about securing it against cheating on both ends (server and client) we would not be having these problems as users. Server admin’s would be made to be more accountable.
The two servers I have had problems of this sort are the USEF and the LTF servers.
One server is located at clanltf.org. The admin there kept trying to single me out because I am a good player able to play each class very well. They may be amatuers but I have been playing for well over a year and don’t expect to be subject to such disrespect just because I’m a good player.
It also appears that they are trying to use the game to make money by pressuring you into fire teams where they push you to send them money.
Now I don’t have a problem with them looking for money, but they are doing it sort of underhandedly.
But it really bothers me that I have to be subject to clanlft’s admin cheating and the accusations that I am cheating because his windows pb client can’t snapshot my screen under linux.
I’m using FC3 with the latest kernel, a gf6600 gt with the latest nvidia video drivers. I’ve been playing on many servers and have never been accused of cheating. Especially, due to not being able to take a snapshot.
The responsible group for modifying the game need to bring to light the fact that linux is here to stay and that if a windows client has problems snapshoting it isn’t the fault of the linux client.
I can understand many of you saying this is not a splashdamage issue, but it is. Ultimately it all boils down to where the buck stops. If splashdamage created it and has continued to update it then it is their responsiblity to ensure that players don’t become disillusioned about how badly the server admins are allowed to act up because they are too lax in enforcing the rule sets once the server starts.
I normally play quietly. I don’t sass off. I rarely tell players what to do unless it helps with the objective, so I’m really low-key. But because I’m good it is obvious that I gain some notariety. I don’t talk back and I don’t start fight. I rarely complain unless someone is messing with another teammate and only the admin can do something about it.
I do not wall hack. I do not cheat. I do not appreciate being called a cheater. If the players on clanltf.org continue to be abused by the admins (or any server for that matter) then the situation will turn sour for ET.
Is there a location where the servers can be rated by the users? If we don’t have a say what goes on the servers run by these kiddies then we should at least be able to rate them so others know what the admins are doing–such as cheating.
- flinging players
- usign splat when they loose battles or get their uniforms stolen
- changing the weapon limits in the middle of the map because your team is loosing
- changing the spawn timers of one side because they are loosing–I was speccing axis and saw they were loosing (on the rail gun map). This was one of those where the allies have them backed up into their spawn and they can’t break out. I saw the admin change their spawntimer to 5 seconds. This changed the whole mix–and the axis finally won. I was speccing while two friends were playing here and decided to join in. This is when I saw the timer had changed to 5 seconds.
These are cheats. They aren’t server rules created by the admins, etc. Just like you don’t change the rules mid-game in chess because you own the board, you don’t change the rules in ET because you own the server. Doing so is cheating no matter how you look at it.
I’m looking for a site that allows us to rate the sites. If a server is set up to allow that sort of cheats the players should be able to tell other players about it.
I don’t think quake 3 had this sort of problem. There’s no ut2004 or ut2003 with this sort of problem and hence there should be no ET with this sort of problem.
Maybe splashdamage can put some effort into ensuring that the server rules are set in stone and can only be changed when the server is reset.
No offense to the good shrub/etmain players, I’ve yet to meet any in my relatively short ETMain experience.