Replay value

(BiigDaddyDellta) #1

I know this game is all about the fun and I’m all for that but I want to know how long will it be all about it? is this game going to be applicable for expansions I’m sure with the release only weeks away there has at least been some talk. :smiley:

(Mustkunstn1k) #2

Well, it’s kind of multiplayer focused. So it pretty much has endless replay value. Same goes for single-player levels since bots act different each time. It has 8 maps or so (not sure with all the bonus ones), probably takes around 20 minutes to complete one. And ofcourse for the singleplayer you have 2 campaigns and there are challenges etc.

They have said that they will be continue working on the game after release, so there will probably be DLC. Hell, since the game is gold they are probably working on stuff right now.

(BiigDaddyDellta) #3

right right I get that, what I’m saying is there are the story maps and all but when it comes time to make the game bigger if they chose to do so they can’t just make a regular old map pack. they would have to expand the whole game. I suppose replay value is a strong term what I really mean is long term playability for diehard brink fans.

(Mustkunstn1k) #4

We don’t exaclty know what they are working on (maps, weapons, clothes) but it will most likely have some new content.

(II Captain K II) #5

I wouldn’t call Halo copy and paste. I’d call it a trendsetter and pretty original, but whatev.

(Realirony) #6

From what I can tell it’ll have alot of long-term playability. If you notice in the E3 vid and some of the Character Customization vids on YouTube there is a menu option that is greyed out that says “Downloadable Content” so I’m sure they will release many new maps, alternate campaigns and the such.

 Also if I remember right, there are alot of missions titled "What-if" missions that lead to an alternate story (if I understand that correctly). So I'm sure they can add alot of "What-if" missions in the future or add to the storyline itself if they feel that the community is getting sparse, like adding a new map that would deviate from the story a bit but ultimately route you back into the main story. Also I could assume that they could add extra Challenges to the game to make it enjoyable.

But if they don’t add anything like that I can still see putting countless hours into the game. I mean, BFBC2 (sorry to name drop) had very few MP maps to begin with and I put in enough hours on that game to hit rank 50 before new maps were released. And Brink has me stoked as hell and I’ve never anticipated a game this much in a long time.

(BiigDaddyDellta) #7

the past two halo games have def been copy and paste. oh yeah they have the online thing down, but it really needs an evolution. a game better than itself a new trend so that the bar can be raised and the games can only get better :smiley:

P.S. was a trend setter… years ago.

(BiigDaddyDellta) #8

[QUOTE=Realirony;284034]From what I can tell it’ll have alot of long-term playability. If you notice in the E3 vid and some of the Character Customization vids on YouTube there is a menu option that is greyed out that says “Downloadable Content” so I’m sure they will release many new maps, alternate campaigns and the such.

 Also if I remember right, there are alot of missions titled "What-if" missions that lead to an alternate story (if I understand that correctly). So I'm sure they can add alot of "What-if" missions in the future or add to the storyline itself if they feel that the community is getting sparse, like adding a new map that would deviate from the story a bit but ultimately route you back into the main story. Also I could assume that they could add extra Challenges to the game to make it enjoyable.

But if they don’t add anything like that I can still see putting countless hours into the game. I mean, BFBC2 (sorry to name drop) had very few MP maps to begin with and I put in enough hours on that game to hit rank 50 before new maps were released. And Brink has me stoked as hell and I’ve never anticipated a game this much in a long time.[/QUOTE]

Good call man

(II Captain K II) #9

[QUOTE=BiigDaddyDellta;284035]the past two halo games have def been copy and paste. oh yeah they have the online thing down, but it really needs an evolution. a game better than itself a new trend so that the bar can be raised and the games can only get better :smiley:

P.S. was a trend setter… years ago.[/QUOTE]

An “evolution” is exactly what Halo has been doing, so what can you complain about? They update the graphics, add more features (theater mode, forge, etc.), add more guns, expand the story with a new campaign. What else can you ask for? If it’s a good game (which it is) why would you want it to change drastically? That’s what Zipper just did with Socom to try and keep things “fresh” and it ruined the game, losing all of its identity.

No matter what the cynical haters think, Halo is still an exemplar in the world of first person shooters.

(madoule) #10

[QUOTE=II Captain K II;284038]An “evolution” is exactly what Halo has been doing, so what can you complain about? They update the graphics, add more features (theater mode, forge, etc.), add more guns, expand the story with a new campaign. What else can you ask for? If it’s a good game (which it is) why would you want it to change drastically? That’s what Zipper just did with Socom to try and keep things “fresh” and it ruined the game, losing all of its identity.

No matter what the cynical haters think, Halo is still an exemplar in the world of first person shooters.[/QUOTE]

k, u are right by saying they updated graphics, added more features, added guns, expand the story. that however is not an evolution. these are the bare necessities if you do a sequel to an intellectual property and light-years away from an evolution (game wise).

sure MS first halo was a milestone but yet they copied certain aspects of gameplay from other IP, combined and stirred well.

(II Captain K II) #11

Lol, then what is an evolution? Please define it within the terms of gaming then. You act like any game out today is actually “original”. They draw inspiration from tons of places. Wolf ET wasn’t particularly original but it was so well done that I never cared. Would you call ET boring and copy and paste because RtCW came out first? lol I bet not.

(obliviondoll) #12

From what I’ve heard on it (not on XBox, so can’t really comment with authority), Reach has altered the mechanics more than any previous Halo release did after the first. I’d call that an evolution, but the previous games weren’t - they were just the continuation of a successful formula.

Back to the actual topic though…

Brink! When you can have up to 10 different, totally uniquely-designed character who play completely differently, and can re-spec any of them at a moment’s notice to experiment with new combinations of abilities. Any 20 from a list of 58, to be more accurate…

I’d call that a lot of options to experiment with, and when that also gets influenced by your body type of choice, and whether you’ve specialised in one class, two, or more… Then add weapon selection, and the customisation of your weapons… The possibilities are pretty much endless.

(madoule) #13

why do i need to define it for you? you can google that for yourself, i hope.

gaming wise: we are currently facing IMO a backwards evolution, looking and the ways especially FPS games are designed. the mindless click and shoot types are not following any sort of evolution, except for improved graphics. tehy do not however show any evolution in terms of gameplay. its all history repeated and degrading backwards towards DM modes that somehow sucked IMO even in the early days.

concerning halo1, the devs did a lot of things very good, however none of the halo games offered something unique such as first real 3d (quake), 6 axis of movement (decent), first FPS ever (the game that was NOT wolfenstein, sorry i forgot the name) or a new way to compete online then by means of CTF, (T)DM… you get the point. have a look here! there are lots of truly evolutionary games: http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/02/14/the-very-important-list-of-pc-games-part-1/#more-50692

on a side note: whats up with thoses “lo’sl”, are they ment to ridicule my point of view?

(ed lolington) #14

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(II Captain K II) #15

[QUOTE=madoule;284086]why do i need to define it for you? you can google that for yourself, i hope.

gaming wise: we are currently facing IMO a backwards evolution, looking and the ways especially FPS games are designed. the mindless click and shoot types are not following any sort of evolution, except for improved graphics. tehy do not however show any evolution in terms of gameplay. its all history repeated and degrading backwards towards DM modes that somehow sucked IMO even in the early days.

concerning halo1, the devs did a lot of things very good, however none of the halo games offered something unique such as first real 3d (quake), 6 axis of movement (decent), first FPS ever (the game that was NOT wolfenstein, sorry i forgot the name) or a new way to compete online then by means of CTF, (T)DM… you get the point. have a look here! there are lots of truly evolutionary games: http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/02/14/the-very-important-list-of-pc-games-part-1/#more-50692

on a side note: whats up with thoses “lo’sl”, are they ment to ridicule my point of view?[/QUOTE]

Dude evolution is a bunch of gradual changes derp. I’m pretty sure that’s what halo has been for the past 5 years or whatever. I think you are just kicking yourself in the butt because you realize that evolution was a terrible word to use if you are trying to criticize halo. Oh yeah, halo 3 basically revolutionized console multiplayer. There were tons of unseen gamemodes and playlists, such as grifball.

But yeah none of that matters apparently, I guess CTF was a huge incredible-genre changing innovation and halo is just copy and paste. You seem to be just another critic who thinks that knocking something popular is cool just because. And I don’t feel I need to use acronyms to belittle you since your stance is already so pathetic as is.

(madoule) #16

[QUOTE=II Captain K II;284162]Dude evolution is a bunch of gradual changes derp. I’m pretty sure that’s what halo has been for the past 5 years or whatever. I think you are just kicking yourself in the butt because you realize that evolution was a terrible word to use if you are trying to criticize halo. Oh yeah, halo 3 basically revolutionized console multiplayer. There were tons of unseen gamemodes and playlists, such as grifball.

But yeah none of that matters apparently, I guess CTF was a huge incredible-genre changing innovation and halo is just copy and paste. You seem to be just another critic who thinks that knocking something popular is cool just because. And I don’t feel I need to use acronyms to belittle you since your stance is already so pathetic as is.[/QUOTE]

i was not trying to criticize halo in the slightest, i wonder where you read that. i am simply pointing out that taking halo as an example for an evolutionary game is wrong. there are better examples.

again, i have to ask: where you read me saying that

CTF was a huge incredible-genre changing
thing? if you don’t actually bother to read my post, then please just drop it and let it be.

again, i am just a forum who is arguing that

update the graphics, add more features (theater mode, forge, etc.), add more guns, expand the story with a new campaign.
is a lazy ass excuse to call a product as “evolutionary”. its the bare minimum to keep an IP alive.

finally, we cool but do me a favor and read your final statement at least once:

And I don’t feel I need to use acronyms to belittle you since your stance is already so pathetic as is.

if i’d have posted that, i’d go tomato-faced, even in the interwebz

(Herandar) #17

So this poll is really asking if we will play with the OP, right? I can’t properly answer that without more information. Please confirm platform, time zone, play time etc. Okay? Thanks.

Maze War? Beat Wolfenstein by about two decades. Or do you mean MIDI Maze/Faceball, which I was playing on the SNES in the late 1980s?

(madoule) #18

god, dude you caught me on the single flaw in my post. :wink: gotta google. zzzziiiinnng!

EDIT: maze war it is…

(Nail) #19

liked Spasim more

(II Captain K II) #20

i was not trying to criticize halo in the slightest, i wonder where you read that. i am simply pointing out that taking halo as an example for an evolutionary game is wrong. there are better examples.

again, i have to ask: where you read me saying that

You said it doesn’t have anything unique about it. That’s wrong.

is a lazy ass excuse to call a product as “evolutionary”. its the bare minimum to keep an IP alive.

Bullcrap again. Look at the difference between CoD 4 and 5. Skins. I guess all it really takes are skins to keep a franchise alive. I still think the word you are looking for is “revolutionary” not “evolutionary”. Maybe you don’t understand the difference, it wouldn’t surprise me.

if i’d have posted that, i’d go tomato-faced, even in the interwebz

I can’t see why. I said I didn’t have to use ACRONYMS in some subliminal way to insult you, because your argument is pathetic, and I’d rather insult you overtly if that’s what it comes down to. I bet you were like “LOL HE SAID HE DIDNT NEED TO BELITTLE ME BUT THEN called me pathetic”. To be honest, if I had posted what you just said I would shut off my computer and go read a book. Try harder next time.