Reistance v. Founders (Security)


(DarkangelUK) #41

Gonna wait till I play it before deciding, though initial gut feeling is Security.

@Jess, you’ve been here a while, so I think I can say this now and know you won’t take it too serious. I can’t wait for the day when you learn how to multi-quote in a single post instead double posting :slight_smile:


(MatthiasK75) #42

I’ve always been resistance. My entire life i’ve been in the back of the class and the one everyone picks on because im quiet, and i will be quiet until the day i die. because of this i tend to side with underdogs, and the story of people rising to overcome oppression is always appealing. I also love rag-tag type of fighting, in MAG i went SVER because they were the rag-tag type of group, using whatever they had to fight (too bad that game was horrible) and so when i first heard about brink and the story behind it i was immediately drawn to resistance. I will of course play the other side, because ive also grown up in a society that says the military is ****ing bad ass and youre a bad ass if youre in it. and yes i do have views on the politcal and hypothetical talk in this thread but i think ill just read it and keep my mouth shut :slight_smile:


(tokamak) #43

One of the premises of a democracy is an informed public yes. Too bad that clashes with another important tenet: freedom of speech. People watch the channels they want, not the channels that inform them the best. These channels can say what they want. North Koreans can’t be blamed for not having an accurate picture of what’s going on. But in a Western society everyone has access to proper information, everyone can educate themselves if they want to.

Which leads me to the following reasoning:

People get the media they deserve which gives them the opinion they deserve which gives them the government they deserve.


(Jess Alon) #44

I’m totally playing security.


(Jess Alon) #45

How does one do this thing? :wink:


(Seyu) #46

That sucks, especially because I do try not to be rude or come off as conceited to people I don’t know on the interwebs.
What I wrote earlier didn’t result from an indignant attitude, I was just annoyed by Etek’s frequent posts decrying other posts that weren’t about gameplay.


(Cankor) #47

Where’s the I don’t care button on the poll?

You should make a poll for: “which side do you favor, attackers or defenders” because the politics do not affect the gameplay (plus it’s a poll which hasn’t been done so far as I know).


(Seyu) #48

[QUOTE=Cankor;282190]Where’s the I don’t care button on the poll?

You should make a poll for: “which side do you favor, attackers or defenders” because the politics do not affect the gameplay (plus it’s a poll which hasn’t been done so far as I know).[/QUOTE]

Haha, you guys are going make SD regret having bongoboy on their payroll. :wink:

Yes, it doesn’t affect gameplay but the storyline too is a facet of the game and I didn’t want to get burned out discussing intricacies of classes and abilities before the game launches.

And SD has some of the most grotesque emoticons I have seen on the web, takes a certain amount of will just to be able to post them.


(Weeohhweeohh) #49

[QUOTE=Whydmer;282108]
I’m on a boat and it’s going fast and
I got a nautical themed, Pashmina Afghan
I’m the king of the world, on a boat like Leo
If you’re on the shore, then you’re sure not Weeohh(weeohh)…[/QUOTE]

I’m liking where this is going!

On Topic: This is just my speculation, I think that there are more then 2 factions. Security, resistance and possibly the founders. You can say that security and the founders are the same thing, but I don’t think so. I think the security is a puppet organization that will eventually split off and start thinking for themselves. I don’t think they would go as far as to hold hands and frolic with the resistance, but there is more going on here then meets the eye.


(Cankor) #50

[QUOTE=Weeohhweeohh;282193]I’m liking where this is going!

On Topic: This is just my speculation, I think that there are more then 2 factions. Security, resistance and possibly the founders. You can say that security and the founders are the same thing, but I don’t think so. I think the security is a puppet organization that will eventually split off and start thinking for themselves. I don’t think they would go as far as to hold hands and frolic with the resistance, but there is more going on here then meets the eye.[/QUOTE]

Good call. Brink 2.


(Weeohhweeohh) #51

Brinkception. I’m on a boat inside a boat. BAMM. Your minds = blown.


(crazyfoolish) #52

I too share your frustration :wink:

The only method i can think of now is to reply to go to the reply form for one of the qutees, copy their post number thing and then go to the other qoutee and copy the quote tags but change the post number thing.

I just know that Darkangel is laughing reading this.


(LyndonL) #53

Press your middle mouse button when pressing QUOTE on each post and it’ll open in a new tab for each quote… copy and paste the info from the new tabs into a single reply field. BAM you now know how to do teh rocket szienze.


(system) #54

[QUOTE=Seyu;282192]Haha, you guys are going make SD regret having bongoboy on their payroll. :wink:

Yes, it doesn’t affect gameplay but the storyline too is a facet of the game and I didn’t want to get burned out discussing intricacies of classes and abilities before the game launches.

And SD has some of the most grotesque emoticons I have seen on the web, takes a certain amount of will just to be able to post them.[/QUOTE]

I care about the storyline because it sets a background, gives a bit of meaning to all this, nothing more. But from this to worshiping some fictional faction in a story… You need to get out more.
Life is not about black and white kiddo.


(Seyu) #55

[QUOTE=Etek;282251]I care about the storyline because it sets a background, gives a bit of meaning to all this, nothing more. But from this to worshiping some fictional faction in a story… You need to get out more.
Life is not about black and white kiddo.[/QUOTE]

Ah, right, now I get it. So, you’re thinking that those discussing the storyline are one of those obsessive fanboys who fawn over every minor detail, right?

That isn’t the case. Just because someone chose Resistance/Security in the poll doesn’t mean he won’t play as the other faction. Of course, both factions are equivalent but picking sides for the sake of carrying forward a discussion doesn’t mean people are worshiping it. Take this discussion the same as how a bunch of people would discuss a movie’s plot. Chill down a bit, alright?


(system) #56

[QUOTE=Seyu;282256]Ah, right, now I get it. So, you’re thinking that those discussing the storyline are one of those obsessive fanboys who obsess over every minor detail, right?

That isn’t the case. Just because someone chose Resistance/Security in the poll doesn’t mean he won’t play as the other faction. Of course, both factions are equivalent but picking sides for the sake of carrying forward a discussion doesn’t mean people are worshiping it. Take this discussion the same as how a bunch of people would discuss a movie’s plot. Chill down, a bit, alright?[/QUOTE]

discussing a movie’s plot without seeing the movie first. Oh ya!


(tokamak) #57

I think it’s a rather simple plot. The founders use the conflict to cull the population on the ark and leave more resources.


(Seyu) #58

Pretty much agree but then why should people be punished for being stupid? A guy who grew up watching Fox News doesn’t deserve the government he elects or the media that he watches. Being in a developed Western country doesn’t mean every individual always has a choice.

You didn’t respond to my previous reply. According to you, it should be alright if a guy comes up with a vaccine for, say, AIDS and starts distributing it, because the government has been unable to do so.
Though I think it is possible that such a vaccine is already possessed by the Founders and they want to retain the control of it to keep the guests dependent on them for its supplies.

That was just an analogy, anyway, of vaccines are really are that easy to make why is the Resistance so adamant about not handing them over?

There is a big difference between committing genocide under orders and trying to protect civilians under orders. An individual security member may not support the founders treatment of the refugees, but he is still going to try to stop the rebels with guns.

There is none. I could say that an individual soldier may not support genocide but he is still going to follow orders.
And it isn’t just about wanting order for the Security,

The pro-government protesters in Egypt do not have much firepower to back them up. With the army taking on the role of a spectator, they do not have enough power to quell down the anti-government protests. This is I think is similar to how the Security, meant for simple guard duty has had to take on armed terrorists. They may have better resources but those are still insufficient to purge the Resistance threat. (what the anti-gov protesters lack in resources, they make up in numbers)

If you see the Security in the same light as the pro-government folks, one can realize that the Security personnel stand to lose more than anyone else if the Resistance takes over. The Security are the favored pets from amongst the same pen as the Resistance fighters, the relatively better life they have enjoyed until now would go up in flames if the Guests get the throne. To them it is more than a law and order issue, for it is the Security personnel who’ll suffer the most if Resistance wins the war.


(Crytiqal) #59

[QUOTE=tokamak;282153]One of the premises of a democracy is an informed public yes. Too bad that clashes with another important tenet: freedom of speech. People watch the channels they want, not the channels that inform them the best. These channels can say what they want. North Koreans can’t be blamed for not having an accurate picture of what’s going on. But in a Western society everyone has access to proper information, everyone can educate themselves if they want to.

Which leads me to the following reasoning:

People get the media they deserve which gives them the opinion they deserve which gives them the government they deserve.[/QUOTE]

Yes, ***** the minority!

:rolleyes:


(tokamak) #60

So there’s an incentive not to be stupid. If you withhold accountability from such attitudes, you keep the cycle intact. You shouldn’t let people have their cake and eat it

If you don’t want them to be accountable, then also don’t let them be responsible and take away their right to vote. That’s elitism, which I think is fine in theory but highly impracticable. I think politics is something that people ought to stay out of if they’re not sufficiently informed. It’s an intellectual battle that should be left to those interested, motivated and competent in the field.

It’s just that it’s impossible to conceive of a practical way to implement this, therefore a free democracy is more favourable.