Redeye's eye should emit a red light while using IR goggles

[BananaSlug]

as long as red eye dosent have GOOD aim, its easy to kill him

[SaulWolfden]

as long as red eye dosent have GOOD aim, its easy to kill him

Lucky for people when he’s in free rotation, which is also my favorite time to play him. People think I’m a free kill, how wrong they are.

[gseijn]

[quote=“Dawnrazor;206922”][quote=“gseijn;206913”][quote=“Herr_Hanz;206682”]@FrostyVampire @Dawnrazor
redeye in smoke is counterable, you can see the bullets come out of the smoke, you can spray the smoke, if im sniper i throw a HB near the smoke to spot the redeye. if you are close the smoke you can run into it, and see his siluete, so you can shoot him. sure he is annoying, but he isnt broken.

the fact that he can see the whole body of someone does not counter that we can see his head while in the smoke. seeing even the location of redeye’s head is enough to get him killed, and even defeats the purpose of the smoke.

smoke’s main purpose is to block the enemy’s vision so that redeye can kill them. either by throwing the smoke on yourself, and shooting from the smoke. or throwing the smoke at an enemy strongpoint.

if you are frustrated that you get killed by a redeye while he is in the smoke, just do what the video says and get out of sight. or try to kill him by any means. the decision is yours.

[/quote]

Couldn’t have said it any better. Sigh…I pray that they bring the grandeur’s rof back to normal.[/quote]

I kinda like the new grandeur, anal sights aside. You can shoot a lot from the hip with decent accuracy.[/quote]

I never shoot from the hip.

[GatoCommodore]

[quote=“gseijn;207450”][quote=“Dawnrazor;206922”][quote=“gseijn;206913”][quote=“Herr_Hanz;206682”]@FrostyVampire @Dawnrazor
redeye in smoke is counterable, you can see the bullets come out of the smoke, you can spray the smoke, if im sniper i throw a HB near the smoke to spot the redeye. if you are close the smoke you can run into it, and see his siluete, so you can shoot him. sure he is annoying, but he isnt broken.

the fact that he can see the whole body of someone does not counter that we can see his head while in the smoke. seeing even the location of redeye’s head is enough to get him killed, and even defeats the purpose of the smoke.

smoke’s main purpose is to block the enemy’s vision so that redeye can kill them. either by throwing the smoke on yourself, and shooting from the smoke. or throwing the smoke at an enemy strongpoint.

if you are frustrated that you get killed by a redeye while he is in the smoke, just do what the video says and get out of sight. or try to kill him by any means. the decision is yours.

[/quote]

Couldn’t have said it any better. Sigh…I pray that they bring the grandeur’s rof back to normal.[/quote]

I kinda like the new grandeur, anal sights aside. You can shoot a lot from the hip with decent accuracy.[/quote]

I never shoot from the hip.[/quote]

not playing with maxium efficiency

i mean its okay if you like to play skyhammer or somethin.

[SaulWolfden]

[quote=“gseijn;207450”][quote=“Dawnrazor;206922”][quote=“gseijn;206913”][quote=“Herr_Hanz;206682”]@FrostyVampire @Dawnrazor
redeye in smoke is counterable, you can see the bullets come out of the smoke, you can spray the smoke, if im sniper i throw a HB near the smoke to spot the redeye. if you are close the smoke you can run into it, and see his siluete, so you can shoot him. sure he is annoying, but he isnt broken.

the fact that he can see the whole body of someone does not counter that we can see his head while in the smoke. seeing even the location of redeye’s head is enough to get him killed, and even defeats the purpose of the smoke.

smoke’s main purpose is to block the enemy’s vision so that redeye can kill them. either by throwing the smoke on yourself, and shooting from the smoke. or throwing the smoke at an enemy strongpoint.

if you are frustrated that you get killed by a redeye while he is in the smoke, just do what the video says and get out of sight. or try to kill him by any means. the decision is yours.

[/quote]

Couldn’t have said it any better. Sigh…I pray that they bring the grandeur’s rof back to normal.[/quote]

I kinda like the new grandeur, anal sights aside. You can shoot a lot from the hip with decent accuracy.[/quote]

I never shoot from the hip.[/quote]

You should at least do that in close quarters, I do that with the PDP too since the damage buff makes it usable there. GSR is arguably the most versatile weapon Redeye has though.

[gseijn]

[quote=“sweetColumn;207455”][quote=“gseijn;207450”][quote=“Dawnrazor;206922”][quote=“gseijn;206913”][quote=“Herr_Hanz;206682”]@FrostyVampire @Dawnrazor
redeye in smoke is counterable, you can see the bullets come out of the smoke, you can spray the smoke, if im sniper i throw a HB near the smoke to spot the redeye. if you are close the smoke you can run into it, and see his siluete, so you can shoot him. sure he is annoying, but he isnt broken.

the fact that he can see the whole body of someone does not counter that we can see his head while in the smoke. seeing even the location of redeye’s head is enough to get him killed, and even defeats the purpose of the smoke.

smoke’s main purpose is to block the enemy’s vision so that redeye can kill them. either by throwing the smoke on yourself, and shooting from the smoke. or throwing the smoke at an enemy strongpoint.

if you are frustrated that you get killed by a redeye while he is in the smoke, just do what the video says and get out of sight. or try to kill him by any means. the decision is yours.

[/quote]

Couldn’t have said it any better. Sigh…I pray that they bring the grandeur’s rof back to normal.[/quote]

I kinda like the new grandeur, anal sights aside. You can shoot a lot from the hip with decent accuracy.[/quote]

I never shoot from the hip.[/quote]

not playing with maxium efficiency

i mean its okay if you like to play skyhammer or somethin.[/quote]

I beg to differ. I say if you are shooting from the hip you are not using that weapon with maximum efficiency.

[gseijn]

[quote=“SaulWolfden;207474”][quote=“gseijn;207450”][quote=“Dawnrazor;206922”][quote=“gseijn;206913”][quote=“Herr_Hanz;206682”]@FrostyVampire @Dawnrazor
redeye in smoke is counterable, you can see the bullets come out of the smoke, you can spray the smoke, if im sniper i throw a HB near the smoke to spot the redeye. if you are close the smoke you can run into it, and see his siluete, so you can shoot him. sure he is annoying, but he isnt broken.

the fact that he can see the whole body of someone does not counter that we can see his head while in the smoke. seeing even the location of redeye’s head is enough to get him killed, and even defeats the purpose of the smoke.

smoke’s main purpose is to block the enemy’s vision so that redeye can kill them. either by throwing the smoke on yourself, and shooting from the smoke. or throwing the smoke at an enemy strongpoint.

if you are frustrated that you get killed by a redeye while he is in the smoke, just do what the video says and get out of sight. or try to kill him by any means. the decision is yours.

[/quote]

Couldn’t have said it any better. Sigh…I pray that they bring the grandeur’s rof back to normal.[/quote]

I kinda like the new grandeur, anal sights aside. You can shoot a lot from the hip with decent accuracy.[/quote]

I never shoot from the hip.[/quote]

You should at least do that in close quarters, I do that with the PDP too since the damage buff makes it usable there. GSR is arguably the most versatile weapon Redeye has though.[/quote]

I do just fine in close quarters by ads. I was more effective when the rof was higher but I can still play well at any range with the weapon. Shooting from the hip requires you to shoot too slow because of weapon spread.

[LifeupOmega]

[quote=“gseijn;207478”][quote=“sweetColumn;207455”][quote=“gseijn;207450”][quote=“Dawnrazor;206922”][quote=“gseijn;206913”][quote=“Herr_Hanz;206682”]@FrostyVampire @Dawnrazor
redeye in smoke is counterable, you can see the bullets come out of the smoke, you can spray the smoke, if im sniper i throw a HB near the smoke to spot the redeye. if you are close the smoke you can run into it, and see his siluete, so you can shoot him. sure he is annoying, but he isnt broken.

the fact that he can see the whole body of someone does not counter that we can see his head while in the smoke. seeing even the location of redeye’s head is enough to get him killed, and even defeats the purpose of the smoke.

smoke’s main purpose is to block the enemy’s vision so that redeye can kill them. either by throwing the smoke on yourself, and shooting from the smoke. or throwing the smoke at an enemy strongpoint.

if you are frustrated that you get killed by a redeye while he is in the smoke, just do what the video says and get out of sight. or try to kill him by any means. the decision is yours.

[/quote]

Couldn’t have said it any better. Sigh…I pray that they bring the grandeur’s rof back to normal.[/quote]

I kinda like the new grandeur, anal sights aside. You can shoot a lot from the hip with decent accuracy.[/quote]

I never shoot from the hip.[/quote]

not playing with maxium efficiency

i mean its okay if you like to play skyhammer or somethin.[/quote]

I beg to differ. I say if you are shooting from the hip you are not using that weapon with maximum efficiency. [/quote]

Have fun when you play against some players who can aim mmkay?

[Herr_Hanz]

[quote=“LifeupOmega;207483”][quote=“gseijn;207478”][quote=“sweetColumn;207455”][quote=“gseijn;207450”][quote=“Dawnrazor;206922”][quote=“gseijn;206913”][quote=“Herr_Hanz;206682”]@FrostyVampire @Dawnrazor
redeye in smoke is counterable, you can see the bullets come out of the smoke, you can spray the smoke, if im sniper i throw a HB near the smoke to spot the redeye. if you are close the smoke you can run into it, and see his siluete, so you can shoot him. sure he is annoying, but he isnt broken.

the fact that he can see the whole body of someone does not counter that we can see his head while in the smoke. seeing even the location of redeye’s head is enough to get him killed, and even defeats the purpose of the smoke.

smoke’s main purpose is to block the enemy’s vision so that redeye can kill them. either by throwing the smoke on yourself, and shooting from the smoke. or throwing the smoke at an enemy strongpoint.

if you are frustrated that you get killed by a redeye while he is in the smoke, just do what the video says and get out of sight. or try to kill him by any means. the decision is yours.

[/quote]

Couldn’t have said it any better. Sigh…I pray that they bring the grandeur’s rof back to normal.[/quote]

I kinda like the new grandeur, anal sights aside. You can shoot a lot from the hip with decent accuracy.[/quote]

I never shoot from the hip.[/quote]

not playing with maxium efficiency

i mean its okay if you like to play skyhammer or somethin.[/quote]

I beg to differ. I say if you are shooting from the hip you are not using that weapon with maximum efficiency. [/quote]

Have fun when you play against some players who can aim mmkay?[/quote]

grandeur is nice but its annoying to stop walking to hipfire. kinda like 1tapping in csgo.

[Terminal_6]

Before I left, I tried out the GSR from the hip. I pretty much always ADS’d with it before. On the little defender rampart at Chapel’s Deliver obj, (left turn before jumping over the ramp) I could brain anyone running through the closer tunnel from the hip. It was kind of ridiculous. I’d still rather ADS, though.

[gseijn]

[quote=“LifeupOmega;207483”][quote=“gseijn;207478”][quote=“sweetColumn;207455”][quote=“gseijn;207450”][quote=“Dawnrazor;206922”][quote=“gseijn;206913”][quote=“Herr_Hanz;206682”]@FrostyVampire @Dawnrazor
redeye in smoke is counterable, you can see the bullets come out of the smoke, you can spray the smoke, if im sniper i throw a HB near the smoke to spot the redeye. if you are close the smoke you can run into it, and see his siluete, so you can shoot him. sure he is annoying, but he isnt broken.

the fact that he can see the whole body of someone does not counter that we can see his head while in the smoke. seeing even the location of redeye’s head is enough to get him killed, and even defeats the purpose of the smoke.

smoke’s main purpose is to block the enemy’s vision so that redeye can kill them. either by throwing the smoke on yourself, and shooting from the smoke. or throwing the smoke at an enemy strongpoint.

if you are frustrated that you get killed by a redeye while he is in the smoke, just do what the video says and get out of sight. or try to kill him by any means. the decision is yours.

[/quote]

Couldn’t have said it any better. Sigh…I pray that they bring the grandeur’s rof back to normal.[/quote]

I kinda like the new grandeur, anal sights aside. You can shoot a lot from the hip with decent accuracy.[/quote]

I never shoot from the hip.[/quote]

not playing with maxium efficiency

i mean its okay if you like to play skyhammer or somethin.[/quote]

I beg to differ. I say if you are shooting from the hip you are not using that weapon with maximum efficiency. [/quote]

Have fun when you play against some players who can aim mmkay?[/quote]

I never had problems playing against anyone when using that rifle.

[Tanker_Ray]

It already does.

PDP and Grandeur got more obvious bullet tracing lines.

Smoke HP and Goggle CD was nerfed so hard at latest patch.

AND

you want more?

[GatoCommodore]

[quote=“THUNDA;207538”]It already does.

PDP and Grandeur got more obvious bullet tracing lines.

Smoke HP and Goggle CD was nerfed so hard at latest patch.

AND

you want more?[/quote]

[SiegeFace]

[quote=“Dawnrazor;206675”][quote=“sweetColumn;206672”]

Beating the purpose of having a smoke[/quote]

[quote=“Herr_Hanz;206674”]
bad idea to make it visible in smoke.[/quote]

The fact that he can just sit inside/behind smoke and snipe people while being uncounterable unless you have a Redeye of your own makes him an extremely frustrating and flat out broken merc at times. Smoke would still have plenty of use like denying crossfires to the enemy by blocking the people on one side from viewing your team etc.[/quote]

So not true, they tend to sit in the middle of the smoke if in an open space, or lean more towards cover on the edges of the smoke in a confined space (from my encounters anyway). And you can always bait out a shot or two and find out exactly where he is based on the bullet trail he leaves behind, sure its not perfect, but definitely counterable.

[Dawnlazy]

[quote=“SiegeFace;207841”][quote=“Dawnrazor;206675”][quote=“sweetColumn;206672”]

Beating the purpose of having a smoke[/quote]

[quote=“Herr_Hanz;206674”]
bad idea to make it visible in smoke.[/quote]

The fact that he can just sit inside/behind smoke and snipe people while being uncounterable unless you have a Redeye of your own makes him an extremely frustrating and flat out broken merc at times. Smoke would still have plenty of use like denying crossfires to the enemy by blocking the people on one side from viewing your team etc.[/quote]

So not true, they tend to sit in the middle of the smoke if in an open space, or lean more towards cover on the edges of the smoke in a confined space (from my encounters anyway). And you can always bait out a shot or two and find out exactly where he is based on the bullet trail he leaves behind, sure its not perfect, but definitely counterable.[/quote]

Are you seriously going to just take 1 or 2 PDP shots, then blindly spray in their general direction (gl retracing a white smoke trail into a cloud of white smoke when viewing it from the front btw) and hope that the other guy misses, then hope you can outdamage a PDP(!) in time? Do keep in mind I’m not talking about rotation Redeyes in 8v8 pubs, I’m talking about teams running set strats with a competent Redeye of their own. Nowadays DBN games are kinda lacking great Redeye players but I have both watched and been in such matches and the way this merc functions in that scenario is just dumb.

[GatoCommodore]

[quote=“Dawnrazor;207870”][quote=“SiegeFace;207841”][quote=“Dawnrazor;206675”][quote=“sweetColumn;206672”]

Beating the purpose of having a smoke[/quote]

[quote=“Herr_Hanz;206674”]
bad idea to make it visible in smoke.[/quote]

The fact that he can just sit inside/behind smoke and snipe people while being uncounterable unless you have a Redeye of your own makes him an extremely frustrating and flat out broken merc at times. Smoke would still have plenty of use like denying crossfires to the enemy by blocking the people on one side from viewing your team etc.[/quote]

So not true, they tend to sit in the middle of the smoke if in an open space, or lean more towards cover on the edges of the smoke in a confined space (from my encounters anyway). And you can always bait out a shot or two and find out exactly where he is based on the bullet trail he leaves behind, sure its not perfect, but definitely counterable.[/quote]

Are you seriously going to just take 1 or 2 PDP shots, then blindly spray in their general direction (gl retracing a white smoke trail into a cloud of white smoke when viewing it from the front btw) and hope that the other guy misses, then hope you can outdamage a PDP(!) in time? Do keep in mind I’m not talking about rotation Redeyes in 8v8 pubs, I’m talking about teams running set strats with a competent Redeye of their own. Nowadays DBN games are kinda lacking great Redeye players but I have both watched and been in such matches and the way this merc functions in that scenario is just dumb.[/quote]

We should just Accept Redeye Death.
when hes no longer viable to play or to play against.

[Reddeadcap]

Explosives can disperse Redeye’s smoke which there are many mercs who have access to, and ignoring a giant smoke cloud and wondering why you’re dying is just stupid.

His monocle used to glow a bright Sam Fisher-esq “Here I am Shoot me” light, but that was the one reason nobody used him and that was removed on his steam release.

In the words of Winston Churchill, “Git Gud”.

[Herr_Hanz]

[quote=“Redcap;208008”]

In the words of Winston Churchill, “Git Gud”.[/quote]

[GatoCommodore]

[quote=“Redcap;208008”]Explosives can disperse Redeye’s smoke which there are many mercs who have access to, and ignoring a giant smoke cloud and wondering why you’re dying is just stupid.

His monocle used to glow a bright Sam Fisher-esq “Here I am Shoot me” light, but that was the one reason nobody used him and that was removed on his steam release.

In the words of Winston Churchill, “Git Gud”.[/quote]

[Lord_Coctus]

You can always run into the smoke with a knife or shotgun if its close enough and play “wheres Redeye”

Usually works for me.