Ranked matchmaking balance is awesome!


(domex96) #1

As it says in the title, its AMAZING!!! Especially for soloQ player like me.
Are u actually joking with this balance? I havent seen worse balance in any game i’ve ever played, literally impossible to carry yourself into higher ranks. Always fucking smurfs, stacks, players getting boosted by smurfs and breaking the balance. No wonder nobody wants to stick to this game unless they know some high rank player who can duo / boost (with) them.
I was like “OKAY MAYBE IM JUST UNLUCKY”, but it keeps happening every single day, matched with players who dont even understand the game, just started playing it and dont even know what are the classes. Meanwhile, on other side there are golds/cobalts who are queueing with “UNRANKED” and “SILVER” players who seem to be best players with only 10hrs on record. TOO GOOD FOR ME. Not to mention 2 Aura’s abuse or some other braindead merc, really sick environment for people trying to grind ranked on their own.

HERE ARE SOME SICK MATCHMAKING EXAMPLES - http://imgur.com/a/lmQ3X
And yeah, im gonna continue being toxic until some normal fucking matchmaking.
Other games award u for trying to progress by playing solo, but this game is just stack/smurf fest. Nice way DB is going amirite?
P.S. - i’ve got plenty of amazing balance screenshots incoming, cuz i doubt my luck will change :slight_smile:

GG SEE YOU IN STOMPS, ups i mean GAME.


(scrub_lord) #2

Main issue is the pool of players isnt very big to choose from and that games are so long. If you want MM to give great balance then you’d be waiting all day just to play a match.

Yes it makes Ranked absolutely cancerous to play unless you can hard carry, but there isnt really anything they can do about it until the game gets a bigger pop.


(Press E) #3

@scrub_lord said:
Main issue is the pool of players isnt very big to choose from and that games are so long. If you want MM to give great balance then you’d be waiting all day just to play a match.

Yes it makes Ranked absolutely cancerous to play unless you can hard carry, but there isnt really anything they can do about it until the game gets a bigger pop.

Yeah, but SD could at least acknowledge that. The current ranked system would be more or less fine if the player population was larger, but it isn’t. And for some reason, SD is trying to use that same system, rather than make a new one that’s built to suit the small player population.

I mean, for one, ranks based around personal performance more than wins or losses. Ways to cancel a game. General less grinding for a case. There’s so much they could do to improve ranked, but they pretend that everything is fine. The least they could do is acknowledge they have a problem when it’s popping up in the reported issues almost constantly.


(dlux) #4

Don’t enter solo, problem solved.


(OwynTyler) #5

@dlux said:
Don’t enter solo, problem solved.

Don’t enter, problem solved.


(doxjq) #6

I agree smurfs are a problem, but there isn’t really any way to stop people making smurf accounts. You’ll see it in every single FPS game. As for balance though, what do you propose exactly? There is no way for SD to manage smurf accounts as far as I know, so it’s completely out of their control - If someone makes a new account then the game just treats them like a new player and puts them up against anyone. Someone quote me if I’m wrong here, but I don’t see how it’s Splash Damage’s fault if people make smurf accounts, and/or how they could even micro manage such a thing.

Deal with it, get better at the game, and try to queue with some other good players or possibly even just friends you enjoy playing with.

As it’s already been said 20 million times or more, the ranked level needs to be raised. That’s about the only way I can see that will help stop people making smurf accounts so willingly. Raise it to level 15-20 I say, or at least higher than level 12. Level 7 is a joke, and it only takes a handful of hours to get to level 7 even for a bad player.


(Mc1412013) #7

@dlux said:
Don’t enter solo, problem solved.

Thats the only option for some of us, sadly im one of them


(Your worst knifemare.) #8

@Mc1412013 said:

@dlux said:
Don’t enter solo, problem solved.

Thats the only option for some of us, sadly im one of them

Be Bush, at least you have a turret to count on.


(Mc1412013) #9

@Lord_Coctus said:

@Mc1412013 said:

@dlux said:
Don’t enter solo, problem solved.

Thats the only option for some of us, sadly im one of them

Be Bush, at least you have a turret to count on.

But the turrets aim is as bad as a 9 yr old level 1 skyhamer


(Sorotia) #10

@doxjq said:
I agree smurfs are a problem, but there isn’t really any way to stop people making smurf accounts. You’ll see it in every single FPS game. As for balance though, what do you propose exactly? There is no way for SD to manage smurf accounts as far as I know, so it’s completely out of their control - If someone makes a new account then the game just treats them like a new player and puts them up against anyone. Someone quote me if I’m wrong here, but I don’t see how it’s Splash Damage’s fault if people make smurf accounts, and/or how they could even micro manage such a thing.

Deal with it, get better at the game, and try to queue with some other good players or possibly even just friends you enjoy playing with.

As it’s already been said 20 million times or more, the ranked level needs to be raised. That’s about the only way I can see that will help stop people making smurf accounts so willingly. Raise it to level 15-20 I say, or at least higher than level 12. Level 7 is a joke, and it only takes a handful of hours to get to level 7 even for a bad player.

Yeah…

I’d say level 20 at least…takes a while to get to and hopefully by then people queuing for it will at least know the basics of how to play what merc they choose.


(Shenaynays) #11

@Mc1412013 said:

@dlux said:
Don’t enter solo, problem solved.

Thats the only option for some of us, sadly im one of them

im another one, number two if you will


(Your worst knifemare.) #12

@Mc1412013 said:

@Lord_Coctus said:

@Mc1412013 said:

@dlux said:
Don’t enter solo, problem solved.

Thats the only option for some of us, sadly im one of them

Be Bush, at least you have a turret to count on.

But the turrets aim is as bad as a 9 yr old level 1 skyhamer

At least the turret stays near the objective.


(emjot) #13

SD should promote Competitive scene more, much more, maybe better prizes after season ends?

Too bad last tournament wasn’t hyped enough and the 100$ prize was kinda, well low :stuck_out_tongue:
I maybe don’t have a time, but if its’ unofficial tourney, I could donate some euros to make the prize bigger.

Maybe we could create some sort of league, PUG games (pickupgroup, in csgo it’s called PCW IIRC). Our little ESL. I think we could find a people who know how to code etc. I have limited time but I could help with it if the interest would be big enough.

All we need is a site, people could register teams etc. Maybe by using matchmaking (6v6) the “MM” could set both teams up.

And that’s it we can do I think, the rest is in SD hands.


(GatoCommodore) #14

@Sorotia said:

@doxjq said:
I agree smurfs are a problem, but there isn’t really any way to stop people making smurf accounts. You’ll see it in every single FPS game. As for balance though, what do you propose exactly? There is no way for SD to manage smurf accounts as far as I know, so it’s completely out of their control - If someone makes a new account then the game just treats them like a new player and puts them up against anyone. Someone quote me if I’m wrong here, but I don’t see how it’s Splash Damage’s fault if people make smurf accounts, and/or how they could even micro manage such a thing.

Deal with it, get better at the game, and try to queue with some other good players or possibly even just friends you enjoy playing with.

As it’s already been said 20 million times or more, the ranked level needs to be raised. That’s about the only way I can see that will help stop people making smurf accounts so willingly. Raise it to level 15-20 I say, or at least higher than level 12. Level 7 is a joke, and it only takes a handful of hours to get to level 7 even for a bad player.

Yeah…

I’d say level 20 at least…takes a while to get to and hopefully by then people queuing for it will at least know the basics of how to play what merc they choose.

in overwatch its 25


(Homu1124) #15

@STARRYSOCK said:

@scrub_lord said:
Main issue is the pool of players isnt very big to choose from and that games are so long. If you want MM to give great balance then you’d be waiting all day just to play a match.

Yes it makes Ranked absolutely cancerous to play unless you can hard carry, but there isnt really anything they can do about it until the game gets a bigger pop.

Yeah, but SD could at least acknowledge that. The current ranked system would be more or less fine if the player population was larger, but it isn’t. And for some reason, SD is trying to use that same system, rather than make a new one that’s built to suit the small player population.

I mean, for one, ranks based around personal performance more than wins or losses. Ways to cancel a game. General less grinding for a case. There’s so much they could do to improve ranked, but they pretend that everything is fine. The least they could do is acknowledge they have a problem when it’s popping up in the reported issues almost constantly.

This echoes my sentiments exactly.

Previously I felt obligated to play comp a bit so that I could at least get 3 loadouts for the season, so that at least I had a “participation” award.

However, there is no way the current system encourages willing participants because anyone who enters will simply get shutdown with stacks with no reward for their efforts (10 ranked points for a loss? Come on.)

What I’ve seen completely destroy balance is the creation of parties. CMM and Ranked both suffer from this. A party is formed and the skill range matched against parties is VERY wide.

For example my matches:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=962605390 Ranked
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1125948914 CMM

When you get those kinds of match-ups after waiting 10-15 minutes, you feel punished for even trying because your rank suffers and you get 10 measly points, meaning you gotta hope you don’t get stacks in future or else you have to play 99 more games of that crap.

I can never get out of a rank because all my matches lead to me being with a decent party vs a stacked enemy or I have to carry a low skill team against a higher skill team. You can’t make teams with 1 carrier and many low-skills vs a full team of decent players. You have to stop allowing matchmaking to create such fluctuations, and if you want to slowly reduce the fluctuations, then give players better rewards for their willingness to ram their heads against the wall of common stomps.

Seriously, giving only 10 points after carrying the rest of the team and then just constantly lowering ranks while still facing higher ranked teams in subsequent matches shows contempt for your players. You need to find a better way to reward people for actually giving a damn in a match, because if only 1 person gives a damn, and the rest of the team doesn’t, then that “try-hard” will also not give a damn. I hope that that is simple enough to understand.

tl;dr Ranked is stacked too often, with little reward for those who try, so why bother?

PS: Buying ranked point boosters doesn’t help when you give such pitifully low payouts in matches that take too long to find and typically lead to unfun stacks.


(Blargz) #16

I gave up on ranked some time ago, after playing against stacked team 3 times in a row as a solo player.
Every time I was with unrankeds/bronzies/low silvers who had no idea what they are doing. Enough is enough.

It’s almost season 4 and DB is still in beta. When will ranked be playable? S15? SD, bring more people to the game, not new seasons, because Your MM will not work with our numbers. And make solo q, FUC*#$ SOLO Q.

Ranked rewards are different story (also a sad one).


(Sorotia) #17

@Blargz said:
I gave up on ranked some time ago, after playing against stacked team 3 times in a row as a solo player.
Every time I was with unrankeds/bronzies/low silvers who had no idea what they are doing. Enough is enough.

It’s almost season 4 and DB is still in beta. When will ranked be playable? S15? SD, bring more people to the game, not new seasons, because Your MM will not work with our numbers. And make solo q, FUC*#$ SOLO Q.

Ranked rewards are different story (also a sad one).

Had a game exactly like that when I started out last season…my friend and I were completely unranked and we get put up against 4 gold and a silver…not fun.


(Press E) #18

Honestly I think premades are a major factor towards why ranked is currently broken. If they were split up evenly across both teams, there wouldn’t be an issue of stacking a premade. Sure, you don’t get to play on the same team as your friends all the time, but who cares really. You’re playing with your friends either way, and I think it’s more than worth that “sacrifice”.


(domex96) #19

Nice to see im not the only one having this issue, its really stupid. And yeah, premade factor is huge, it breaks the balance. Thats why people make smurf acc’s, either to help their friends rank up with easy games or just stomp lower ranked players. I really want to rank up cuz i know i can, but this matchmaking is just too ridiculous…
Ranked is only thing worth playing in this game, CMM is good but gets hella boring after some games.
Shame cuz this game is really fun, but cant enjoy it.


(Sorotia) #20

@domex96 said:
Nice to see im not the only one having this issue, its really stupid. And yeah, premade factor is huge, it breaks the balance. Thats why people make smurf acc’s, either to help their friends rank up with easy games or just stomp lower ranked players. I really want to rank up cuz i know i can, but this matchmaking is just too ridiculous…
Ranked is only thing worth playing in this game, CMM is good but gets hella boring after some games.
Shame cuz this game is really fun, but cant enjoy it.

Like Gato said…should make ranked 25…hell maybe even 30…so you can’t have these people roll new accounts in a few hours and smurf the hell out of ranked.

I really liked this season’s skins…but it just aint worth it after all the hell I went through last season…got a loadout that I’ll almost never use.

The broken system on top of RNG up the wazoo just isn’t worth it in the end.